That's hella cap, the half course is easy for sure. But the marathon course is not easier than say something like Chicago. So may courses out there with similar drop
Mesa does not have the maximum drop allowable. It about 900-1000 feet of total loss and it's not that easy of a course. It's also hot. It's a cold start and incredibly sunny when the sun rise comes out and usually 50-60 which is very warm with a strong Arizona sun. Don't forget Boston is also a net downhill course. There are easier courses out there with less drop. (Like Chicago) so there's not any crazy assistance in Mesa. I ran Mesa and then PR'd in San Diego shortly after. A much more difficult course with 1K of uphill. Mesa is fast for miles 1-3 with a climb miles 3-5. the rest is pretty flat with maybe 10-20 feet of drop per mile sometimes less sometimes a small climb
Welcome to Letsrun, Griff. Or you're going to claim you're not Griff, just someone else who chose to make a brand new account to defend him 20 pages later? Nice details about how you ran Mesa and San Diego. Care to share your chip times from those races?
And yes, you got me. While I said Mesa has "damn near the maximum elevation loss possible without incurring a 5 minute time penalty for Boston qualification" I suppose there is 500 feet there where the course could be even more favorable. You could have done Utah Valley, Wicked Fast, Leavenworth, or Tucson I suppose.
The first four miles at Mesa drop more than 300 feet, and the "climb" between 4-6 miles amounts to less than 100 feet. You're really trying to argue this is a legit course mentionable in the same breath as Boston or Chicago? You have to be kidding.
That's hella cap, the half course is easy for sure. But the marathon course is not easier than say something like Chicago. So may courses out there with similar drop
How can you honestly say a course that drops 1000 feet net and gains less than 300 feet gross is not easier than a course that grosses 250 feet and nets zero?
Aubrey biggerthanrunning is doing collabs all over the place at the minute. He seems quite the darling amongst influencers. He has had videos with:
- Bester
- Fenton
- Cole
- Phily + Daniel
- Sarah Running channel
- Donato
- MARM on his podcast
- Light It up Yeah
- Cameo in Floberg Chicago vid
- Kofuzi (I think)
And those are just the ones to my knowledge.
So if you are reading this Aub and take requests I’d like to see you collab with the the following in 2026
- Matt Fox
- Truett
- Brooms
- FOD
- Sirpoc
- Seth
Many Thanks
Feel like he'll be full time on The Running Channel soon. He has their vibe and would be a good replacement for that one guy who isn't really into it (I can never remember any of their names other than Andy and Sarah).
I dont see other sports federations trying to become production companies. Seems like a better idea that professionals handle that than the cronies in the sport. I have 0% belief that a 70 year old fossil is able to make something people want to see. In your example you say that it was the athletes themselves who marketed the event. Why should Seb Coe take over for that?
This is the most low effort strawman I've seen for some time. I literally said 'hire two videographers' to make some short features about selected athletes before each event and you've somehow translated that into Seb Coe becoming a YouTuber. If you watch an episode of UFC Embedded you'll see how straightforward and effective this can be. It's hard to root for people you know absolutely nothing about.
This is the most low effort strawman I've seen for some time. I literally said 'hire two videographers' to make some short features about selected athletes before each event and you've somehow translated that into Seb Coe becoming a YouTuber. If you watch an episode of UFC Embedded you'll see how straightforward and effective this can be. It's hard to root for people you know absolutely nothing about.
Again, why are you confident that world athletics have the skillset to produce something good? Even if they hire two videographers, the suits in world athletics are going to take terrible decisions along the way (such as keeping everything on the official world athletics youtube, which no one is going to see).
Promotion can, is, and should be handled by the meet and/or the individual production companies and/or the athletes sponsors. Or else the suits in world athletics are going to start billing "production planning weekends" in a hotel in Switzerland.
Haven’t liked Aubrey since he went off on Tim grose for even thinking about looking at his training in one of his marathon chances videos. Really nasty bloke putting on a nice guy persona
Haven’t liked Aubrey since he went off on Tim grose for even thinking about looking at his training in one of his marathon chances videos. Really nasty bloke putting on a nice guy persona
Haven’t liked Aubrey since he went off on Tim grose for even thinking about looking at his training in one of his marathon chances videos. Really nasty bloke putting on a nice guy persona
What's up with his bizarre accent?
Accent and personality as fake and put on as eachother
He had 2 weeks off after Valencia and now he has run 190km, 194km and 218km in the last 3 weeks.
He isnt very bright is he? I dont actually think he learnt a single thing from 2025. Injury/pant sh1tting incoming at any point, sadly.
Coached by Ben Connor I believe.
I wouldn't say he's necessarily overdoing it looking at his Strava. As long as he keeps on top of the diet and doesn't fall back into the underfuelling I can't really see a problem
Again, why are you confident that world athletics have the skillset to produce something good? Even if they hire two videographers, the suits in world athletics are going to take terrible decisions along the way (such as keeping everything on the official world athletics youtube, which no one is going to see).
Promotion can, is, and should be handled by the meet and/or the individual production companies and/or the athletes sponsors. Or else the suits in world athletics are going to start billing "production planning weekends" in a hotel in Switzerland.
Well the inital examples I mentioned were F1 and UFC, both put out plenty of content on their official YouTube channels which I'm sure at some point were as small as the World Athletics channel, you grow the channel by producing good content. And obviously no one is suggesting that Seb Coe and the World Athletics suits need to sit around and come up with ideas / become a production company. They just need to hire a production company to handle that, and see it as a long-term investment. Increased interest in the sport, generating by actively marketing the athletes, would mean they could recoupe the money when selling TV rights for major championships.
You make a good point about athletes sponsors, it would be great if they did invest in building the profiles of their top-athletes rather than funding influencers. If ON took the annual wage they were paying Phily and paid a production team to make some Makou style training / race day content of their Euro and US training groups for example. But the majority of shoe sales are from everyday 'hobby joggers' rather than followers of the professional side of the sport, and influencers are more appealing to them so brands probably see that as a better way of generating sales/interest. That leaves World Athletics as the best option to handle promotion of the top athletes, in my opinion.
Phily update: she's posting videos from the swimming pool because she can't run and treadmill runs on Strava with titles like "It's just a chapter". Things aren't looking up yet.
I don't have a link, but basically what happened was (and I may be misremembering some details) Tim included Aubrey in one of his YouTuber marathon prediction vids and didn't fancy Aubrey's chances of achieving his modest target based on his current training. It was fairly respectful, though obviously negative/pessimistic. After Aubrey ran the race and achieved his target (or at least beat Tim's prediction), Aubrey ranted about the matter, and this caused Aubrey's rabid fanbase to somewhat brigade Tim, leaving insulting comments and downvoting. I know Tim spoke of it in one of his videos (probably in one of his YouTuber News episodes) and seemed quite aghast that Aubrey and his fans had responded that way. I haven't watched Aubrey since, though not just because of this incident - his content was always over-edited sh*t fake-inspirational cringe anyway, but it didn't help.
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