clarksonxc wrote:
8) Fredonia - ahead of TCNJ is Williams gets back
They just beat TCNJ without their #1, Novara and Tom Williams as 2nd man.
With Novara it looks like they could've mixed it up with Mt. Union and Ohio Northern.
That being said I have no idea where this puts them...
Nice post. Well thought out, logical, respectful, good info, refrained from ripping on anyone, didn't swear or call anyone names. I'd say you could pass 1st grade with a post like that. Which is a lot more than I can say for most of the posts on this thread.
New poll out by the way:
http://www.tcnj.edu/~jennings/Atlantic_CC/wkpoll.htm
1 Cortland (8) 107
2 Geneseo (3) 97
3 NYU 87
4 St. Lawrence 77
5 RIT 69
6 Rochester 47
7 Plattsburgh 43
8 Ithaca 28
9 Fredonia 20
10 Hamilton 10
ARV (TCNJ, Oneonta, Brockport, RPI)
THIS THREAD F*CKING SUCKS
somewhere in the haze that is the 5-8 spots for the region
RIT manhandled Plattsburg and Rochester was pretty close to geneseo(who was just missing Lee Berube).To: Plattsburg team and all letsrun loversGet over it you are overrated. And you should get over it to.Hopefully their loss to RIT makes them come down to earth.I wouldn't be surprised if fredonia beat them at sunyacs either. Sunyacs will definetly clarify things about plattsburg and fredonia for us. Like I said they are 7th or 8th right now.
clarksonxc wrote:
As for Albany - I raced it 4 years straight, and every
year it was a different course. Most of the time it was short; sometimes up to 30 seconds or so. I'm not sure you can really take any of the times seriously. Albert Sico had a very bad day, but he'll bounce back.
did rit and plattsburg run the same course. I think so. rit beat them by 88 points 73 to 161. If keep saying plattsburgh is fifth after that then you are ignorant.
I do agree with the NYU ranking though. They beat #5 in the nation allegheny and geneseo has yet to go against a top 10 team(we will see at sunyacs when they go against cortland)
Also SLU has yet to prove they deserve a their ranking. I think they would be pretty close to RIT and Rochester right now.
dumbass, I was talking about atlantic region rankings. Not Nationals.
Point proven, SLU always has been overrated when they come into season.
bulldozer wrote:
Based purely off of Plattsburgh's race and RIT's past races, I would say that the course at Albany was faster than that at Lehigh.
alex sico had a bad race at albany. Heymann ran to win (and as such his time was 24:32, only 20 seconds slower than the fast course at lehigh) Grim improved by 15 seconds (an outlier among the pack that suggests that he either had a good day or everyone else just ran poorly.)
RIT had an on day. Their pack was spread out more than it has at any point in this season. Their individual performances were better than how they ran at Houghton. It seems odd that they would run fast one week, slow the next(on average 30 seconds slower at Geneseo) and then run faster than they had ever before at Albany two weeks later. Heck, even nick lowe got under 26.
In this entry I outlined how I believe that Plattsburgh had a seriously off race, and Heymann ran to win.
I also outlined a situation which suggests that the times run at Albany are probably not indicitive of the actual capabilities of the RIT team.
What happened at Albany is what everyone expected to happen. (as per weekly rankings) It changes nothing.
I don't get you.
RIT runs well at their first race, THE COURSE WAS HALF ON ROADS IT DOESN'T COUNT!
They run well at Houghton, THE COURSE IS FAST AND PROBABLY SHORT IT DOESN'T COUNT!
They have an off day at Geneseo, nobody has a problem with that.
The run well at Albany, kick Plattsburghs asses, PLATTSBURGH JUST HAD AN OFF DAY AND THE COURSE IS FAST IT DOESN'T COUNT!
Seriously? RIT has put together 3 good races thus far this year, and every time they do someone has to discount it. Yeah, Plattsburgh had a mediocre day at Albany. Well, maybe RIT had a mediocre day at Geneseo.
I'm not on either team, and I doubt you are either, but look at what you're writing. How can you say Plattsburgh is better when RIT beat them by 88 points at a meet that is smaller than Regionals will be.
I never understood the argument that Plattsburgh was overrated. Last year everyone discounted Plattsburgh, barely ranking them in the region and they made nationals.
They were the "dark horse" at regionals, but then somehow were overrated at the same time.
This year people are picking them to finish 5th, if they finish 10th at Regionals or 5th at SUNYACs, then I could see why they would be overrated.
Do you really think Plattsburgh is going to burn out before regionals or under perform?
Have they ever?
Look each weekend from now until November 14th is going to bring on crazy results, down weeks and up weeks. This is the best the region is on both sides. Everyone is talking about how crazy the men's region is, but the women's is even crazier. After SLU and Geneseo it could be any of 6 teams in 3rd-9th. This is going to be the most exciting season ever and I do not think for either gender the 4th and 5th teams now will be 4th and 5th on 11/14. There is plenty to debate and you really cannot count out anyone. If you have some hate for a single team I feel sorry for you that you need to come on this board and publicize your feelings. Maybe you need to see a therapist. You cannot argue who will be where on 11/14 because every program is different and every program comes on at different times and sustains that ability for different lengths. But go ahead and doubt those teams that did bad this past weekend and then praise them when they do well next weekend.
With that said I love to PREDICT:
on 11/14 this will be the finishing places:
Men
Cortland
NYU
Geneseo
RIT
Plattsburgh
SLU
Rochester
nobody else will be close
Women
SLU
Geneseo
NYU
Plattsburgh
TCNJ
Why so serious wrote:
Everyone is talking about how crazy the men's region is, but the women's is even crazier. After SLU and Geneseo it could be any of 6 teams in 3rd-9th.
Six teams filling seven places? Damn, that IS crazy!
fine 7 teams in 3rd through 9th and i know i have other grammatical errors in there, but i dont care (and yes i know i haven't capitalized my i's or used apostrophes)
How about that womens poll, NYU and Brockport both just beat TCNJ handily and are still below them in the rankings. Again some idiot coaches who vote without even looking at results to closely. TCNJ ran the same girls they ran at PS, so its not like they were missing anyone.
G-Roc wrote:
New poll out by the way:
http://www.tcnj.edu/~jennings/Atlantic_CC/wkpoll.htm1 Cortland (8) 107
2 Geneseo (3) 97
3 NYU 87
4 St. Lawrence 77
5 RIT 69
6 Rochester 47
7 Plattsburgh 43
8 Ithaca 28
9 Fredonia 20
10 Hamilton 10
ARV (TCNJ, Oneonta, Brockport, RPI)
Okay I know I said SLU is overrated but I do not believe Plattsburgh will beat SLU. We have already seen that twice. One with smaller meet and a larger meet.
However it is possible RIT will beat SLU. We'll see how this coming weekend plays out. (note: this is on the men's side)
One of my teammates said a tcnj chick ran without a shoe, and it was freakin cold and wet out there. that sucks.
I know it's just a prediction, but you really think SLU is going to bite it that hard at regionals? 7th?
Suny P couldn't beat SLU at Paul Short, where SLU had an off day (look at guys like Jake Malcomb)and Heymann was way out front. At regionals, where the difference between Mike and Dan wont be as large, SLU beats them, even if they have an off day.
RIT is the only team that I think could beat SLU to the 4th spot. Luckily we get to see them race at NYSCTC. I am excited to see that race. U of R too.
The last 3 years SLU has run as expected at regionals. Hating on them, saying they are going to choke is as trendy as it is for NYU fans to complain about their rankings.
shut the dick
Dicks wrote:
shut the dick
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