Gym Jordan, GOP's finest
""When these complaints come and he pretends now that he had no knowledge of it, that's betrayal in the highest level," said Vazquez, now a public school teacher, who added that the continued denials played a role in prompting him to speak out about his experience."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/politics/jordan-osu-wrestlers-strauss-invs/index.html
Some gems between Ron Perlman and Ted Cruz, who is vehemently defending his esteemed colleague Gym Jordan...
https://twitter.com/TheyUseUs1/status/1272430780782792704?s=20
Make America Great Again! wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
America needs herd immunity against the disease that is Republicanism. The cure is an election.
You mean, Republican support will stop increasing once 60-70% of Americans support Republicans? You might be right on that...
You missed the election part. It can act like a laxative, in passing Republicans. A purge, in every sense.
Is this true?
Are most people against the protests but afraid to say it and will this silent majority vote to re-elect Trump in November?
Seems like they are even afraid to tell pollsters they like Trump.
Trollminator wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
"...the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office..."
If he went into exile, the above would be a fact and not an opinion. Pence and the cabinet could not defend Trump. We are not like North Korea.
The GOP has become quite unamerican though...
That's what I've been telling you folks.
Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
1100 wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
The GOP has become quite unamerican though...
That's what I've been telling you folks.
Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
Now that you are right about.
agip wrote:
Think about the national security aspects of a defection...it’s incomprehensible. A president knows so much about the nations secrets.
Would be a cool movie tho.
It is not obvious to me that Trump knows "so much" about anything.
L L wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/left-silences-silent-majority-watch-november-liz-peekIs this true?
Are most people against the protests but afraid to say it and will this silent majority vote to re-elect Trump in November?
Seems like they are even afraid to tell pollsters they like Trump.
There is no silent majority for Trump. He and Liz Peek wish. She makes some bogus and misleading claims too, of course. She says that "64 percent according to an ABC News/Ipsos poll – also disagrees with the Left’s calls to Defund the Police. The "Left" hasn't embraced Defund the Police. I'm part of the left, and I don't agree with that. So, what that means is that many people who will not vote for Trump are against defunding the police.
She also wrote, "Some 82 percent of respondents to a recent survey agreed that peaceful protests are an “appropriate response” to the killing of an unarmed man by police." As if those 82 percent are part of a fictional "silent majority." Just utter crap.
Biden wins if he is breathing. The only question is by how much.
Trollminator wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
OR . . . the virus could have mutated to less-lethal strains. Or the most vulnerable are being better protected, by themselves and/or others (or have already succumbed). Or better treatment protocols have been developed.
Et cetera.
true.. maybe many have also realized the orange hydro sauce wasn't helping.
I hear docs are much better now at stopping patients' immune system from killing the victim.
L L wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/left-silences-silent-majority-watch-november-liz-peekIs this true?
Are most people against the protests but afraid to say it and will this silent majority vote to re-elect Trump in November?
Seems like they are even afraid to tell pollsters they like Trump.
The polling data is actually in the article. People support "peaceful protests" (82%), they don't support violent protests (22%), and they don't support "defund the police" (64%).
I don't think any of these are particularly surprising. "Defund the police" as a slogan, as has been discussed in this thread, is problematic even for some who would agree with the concept of shifting some of the police role to a social services role.
Support for protests is very strong and most liberals are uncomfortable with the idea of violent protest and destruction of property on general principles and because it is counterproductive to the movement.
The article is mostly right wing spin on things few would disagree with, but at it's core, there is a real hazard for the Democrats they risk losing centrist votes if they get pulled too far left and the Republicans and Fox will, of course try to paint the party as radical leftist regardless of reality. The polls suggest they haven't been particularly successful thus far in making Biden look like the riskier choice.
I like to keep up with Fox News to see what they're selling.
Articles like these are attempts to keep hope up for those who want to vote for Trump.
The can't have anyone staying home and thinking Trump doesn't have a chance.
For Biden supporters, they can't think Biden has it in the bag. They still have to show up and vote.
Monkeys typing wrote:
The polling data is actually in the article. People support "peaceful protests" (82%), they don't support violent protests (22%), and they don't support "defund the police" (64%).
So 36% do support "defund the police"? I'm actually shocked it is that high. That says something profound about this moment in American history.
Fat hurts wrote:
Monkeys typing wrote:
The polling data is actually in the article. People support "peaceful protests" (82%), they don't support violent protests (22%), and they don't support "defund the police" (64%).
So 36% do support "defund the police"? I'm actually shocked it is that high. That says something profound about this moment in American history.
The poll actually found that 34% support defunding the police. (Apparently two percent were undecided.)
However, many of those 34% may understand that defunding doesn't really mean getting rid of police, but rather redistributing funds so the cops can actually focus on policing, rather than health care, social work, etc. As someone pointed out already, the lefties in general really suck at coming up with slogans that accurately represent their positions.
L L wrote:
I like to keep up with Fox News to see what they're selling.
Articles like these are attempts to keep hope up for those who want to vote for Trump.
The can't have anyone staying home and thinking Trump doesn't have a chance.
For Biden supporters, they can't think Biden has it in the bag. They still have to show up and vote.
I came across this article while scanning the news this morning. If you're a cheerleader, you're still expected to cheer no matter how dire the situation might appear, I guess. I'm not saying Biden has this in the bag, but he's up by three touchdowns at halftime.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457Fat hurts wrote:
Monkeys typing wrote:
The polling data is actually in the article. People support "peaceful protests" (82%), they don't support violent protests (22%), and they don't support "defund the police" (64%).
So 36% do support "defund the police"? I'm actually shocked it is that high. That says something profound about this moment in American history.
Yeah this is why I hate polls with vague questions.. the explanations for the 36% can range from wanting complete removal of the police to thinking they could use some makeover... very big difference.
awetr wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So 36% do support "defund the police"? I'm actually shocked it is that high. That says something profound about this moment in American history.
The poll actually found that 34% support defunding the police. (Apparently two percent were undecided.)
However, many of those 34% may understand that defunding doesn't really mean getting rid of police, but rather redistributing funds so the cops can actually focus on policing, rather than health care, social work, etc. As someone pointed out already, the lefties in general really suck at coming up with slogans that accurately represent their positions.
I really think this is mostly because they don't tend to lead movements but rather get behind them when they happen and by then the unclear message is already out.
Trollminator wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So 36% do support "defund the police"? I'm actually shocked it is that high. That says something profound about this moment in American history.
Yeah this is why I hate polls with vague questions.. the explanations for the 36% can range from wanting complete removal of the police to thinking they could use some makeover... very big difference.
It doesn't really matter what some shrill people think. A defending, in the sense of reducing the number of officers. is not going to happen.
It's similar to the Republicans claiming that the Democrats said we should believe all sexual assault accusers. Obviously that is impossible or otherwise, an accuser could just hand an affidavit to the judge for sentencing.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Yeah this is why I hate polls with vague questions.. the explanations for the 36% can range from wanting complete removal of the police to thinking they could use some makeover... very big difference.
It doesn't really matter what some shrill people think. A defending, in the sense of reducing the number of officers. is not going to happen.
It's similar to the Republicans claiming that the Democrats said we should believe all sexual assault accusers. Obviously that is impossible or otherwise, an accuser could just hand an affidavit to the judge for sentencing.
"Defunding". I've been in other forums where it's possible to edit a post.
Monkeys typing wrote:
L L wrote:
I like to keep up with Fox News to see what they're selling.
Articles like these are attempts to keep hope up for those who want to vote for Trump.
The can't have anyone staying home and thinking Trump doesn't have a chance.
For Biden supporters, they can't think Biden has it in the bag. They still have to show up and vote.
I came across this article while scanning the news this morning. If you're a cheerleader, you're still expected to cheer no matter how dire the situation might appear, I guess. I'm not saying Biden has this in the bag, but he's up by three touchdowns at halftime.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457
2016 was a real shocker for so many reasons, including that trump was a completely different opponent, the complacency from Dems thinking HRC had it in the bag, shenanigans within the DRC and the fact that HRC was very disliked.
But this is a re-election bid and now trump has a record and he's running against a very well liked opponent. I suspect the high confident from local GOP officials is coming more from fear of not supporting the orange deity... as the article says officials were replaced with loyalists.
Here is what this article does not answer and what I have not seen explained anywhere. How is trump going to win if all he's done since taking office is shrink his piece of the pie? This article for example doesn't even dispute that and points to trump having to somehow bring Biden's support down. They haven't managed to do that and all indicates there will be a strong showing for Biden. There is no explanation of how trump overcomes the known deficit. Pointing to some silent majority is pure weak sauce.... meaningless except to alert those in deep fear. I do think that timing is critical, but some mild recovery from COVID is not going to just wipe out his terrible performance across the board. The fact is come November the economy will be much worse off than what Obama gave him and he hasn't made good on most promises. They have no plan and the 2016 stunts aren't working so far.
Dumb dumb dumb Republicans. They need to go.
https://twitter.com/owermohle/status/1272551083282509825?s=21