Joe-no-nuts wrote:
wow 2 year old news story... way to keep current.
Happy 800 days of Covid "vaccines".
Get a free Fauci bobblehead with your next "booster".
This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
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800 days of zero problems with me.
800 days 6 BILLION + doses and all you offer is memes.
Don't need a bobble head, I enjoy watching you flail around much more.
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"Turbo" cancer documented by x-ray at Day 0 and Day 22 after mRNA booster shot.
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Covidiocy wrote:
fisky wrote:
Followup: This morning, I saw the following article on nattokinase as a treatment for vaccine damage. It's a substance derived from, I think, fermented soybeans. I have no idea if this would help you, but since the medical/pharmaceutical industry doesn't recognize vaccine damage AND since traditional medicine has no cure for Parkinson's, you'll have to be proactive in finding a solution for your condition. It appears that nattokinase works on clotting and heart damage, but who knows if it's related to your condition.
Anyway, I saw this and assumed you wouldn't see it, so I wanted you to know what's being looked at for vaccine damage. Best of luck.
C’mon Fisky… don’t you know that McCullough is just a grifter and a rogue MD? Lol.
Honestly, nattokinase was probably a great thing to take during Covid too, but you will never see any robust RCTs on stuff like this.
WOW transfecting (with DNA-LNP, most likely) a serine protease and subsequent over-expression degrades proteins in HEK cells? What a shock! Jesus this is a new low for you guys.
What is McCullough recommending? Eating an enzyme to degrade the spike protein systemically. I thought this guy was a biochemist back in the day. Just embarassing.
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"Taking random soybean extracts that get inactivated and digested in the stomach within minutes and then do nothing ... to own the libs"
The grifters dont even have to try, you guys will just do anything they say as long as some pseudo-scientific BS accompanies it.
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Covidiocy wrote:
fisky wrote:
Followup: This morning, I saw the following article on nattokinase as a treatment for vaccine damage. It's a substance derived from, I think, fermented soybeans. I have no idea if this would help you, but since the medical/pharmaceutical industry doesn't recognize vaccine damage AND since traditional medicine has no cure for Parkinson's, you'll have to be proactive in finding a solution for your condition. It appears that nattokinase works on clotting and heart damage, but who knows if it's related to your condition.
Anyway, I saw this and assumed you wouldn't see it, so I wanted you to know what's being looked at for vaccine damage. Best of luck.
C’mon Fisky… don’t you know that McCullough is just a grifter and a rogue MD? Lol.
You finally get it!
Posting random supplements and baselessley claiming they have potential against the fantasy ailment 'vaccine damage' is exactly what a grifter would do.
Don't forget to subscribe to his substack for more miracle cures!
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I think the reason Covidiocy (among others) is so triggering to me is that they/them are someone with a putative science background... but they still fall for the most low-IQ pandering naturopathic grifter BS.
If people trained at mid-tier universities aren't immune to these tactics, what hope is there for society? We are destined to spend a large % of GDP on snake oil.
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joedonuts wrote:
zxvczxvc wrote:
160k deaths per year from COVID now, or about 5x your normal yearly flu deaths, says that the risks remain real.
How old are you? If you are like most of the posters on this board, your risks are likely about the same as they were prior to COVID (pull up excess deaths for those under 25 on the CDC excess deaths site). Boosters showed no effectiveness for those 18-49 (which the CDC tried to cover up). Prior infection was far superior to vaccination in terms of preventing future infections. Vaccination does not really prevent infection, so one is not providing protection for anyone other than themselves, thus there is no basis for mandates. Those are the facts.
Nothing you said here was correct.
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Harambe wrote:
I think the reason Covidiocy (among others) is so triggering to me is that they/them are someone with a putative science background... but they still fall for the most low-IQ pandering naturopathic grifter BS.
If people trained at mid-tier universities aren't immune to these tactics, what hope is there for society? We are destined to spend a large % of GDP on snake oil.
I’m triggering to you because I am the control group and, as a low risk person, didn’t fall for the grift that was our FDA and CDC captured by Pfizer and/or Moderna, just like Jordon Walker corroborated as an insider. Plus, my natural borne immunity is at least as good as if not better than yours. Oh, but I’m such a fool because I *risked* myocarditis and death and long Covid. Ok, lol.
Note - nowhere did I say I thought nattokinase would bind or degrade spike as asserted by McCullough. I am unaware of the physiological mechanism there. I merely said I thought nattokinase might’ve been helpful in the toolkit during actual Covid.
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Covidiocy wrote:
Harambe wrote:
I think the reason Covidiocy (among others) is so triggering to me is that they/them are someone with a putative science background... but they still fall for the most low-IQ pandering naturopathic grifter BS.
If people trained at mid-tier universities aren't immune to these tactics, what hope is there for society? We are destined to spend a large % of GDP on snake oil.
I’m triggering to you because I am the control group and, as a low risk person, didn’t fall for the grift that was our FDA and CDC captured by Pfizer and/or Moderna, just like Jordon Walker corroborated as an insider. Plus, my natural borne immunity is at least as good as if not better than yours. Oh, but I’m such a fool because I *risked* myocarditis and death and long Covid. Ok, lol.
Note - nowhere did I say I thought nattokinase would bind or degrade spike as asserted by McCullough. I am unaware of the physiological mechanism there. I merely said I thought nattokinase might’ve been helpful in the toolkit during actual Covid.
I tend to think of nattokinase as an anti-coagulant and fibrinolytic agent as a potential Covid treatment. That was my thought process. But, it appears there is some research as a candidate for S protein degradation as well. It’s nothing if not interesting.
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Covidiocy wrote:
Harambe wrote:
I think the reason Covidiocy (among others) is so triggering to me is that they/them are someone with a putative science background... but they still fall for the most low-IQ pandering naturopathic grifter BS.
If people trained at mid-tier universities aren't immune to these tactics, what hope is there for society? We are destined to spend a large % of GDP on snake oil.
I’m triggering to you because I am the control group and, as a low risk person, didn’t fall for the grift that was our FDA and CDC captured by Pfizer and/or Moderna, just like Jordon Walker corroborated as an insider. Plus, my natural borne immunity is at least as good as if not better than yours.
bro , you aren't special. Your parents may have told you that your whole life but trust me. You are average at best
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Joe-no-nuts wrote:
Covidiocy wrote:
I’m triggering to you because I am the control group and, as a low risk person, didn’t fall for the grift that was our FDA and CDC captured by Pfizer and/or Moderna, just like Jordon Walker corroborated as an insider. Plus, my natural borne immunity is at least as good as if not better than yours.
bro , you aren't special. Your parents may have told you that your whole life but trust me. You are average at best
this is classic behavior by conspiracy suspectable people, they believe they are smarter and better than others, they have a desire to be the hero of their own story. Thanks Covidiocy, for demonstrating this fallacy.
Like I say, you guys do all the work for us.
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Vax mob mafia crushed again.
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Covidiocy wrote:
Covidiocy wrote:
I’m triggering to you because I am the control group and, as a low risk person, didn’t fall for the grift that was our FDA and CDC captured by Pfizer and/or Moderna, just like Jordon Walker corroborated as an insider. Plus, my natural borne immunity is at least as good as if not better than yours. Oh, but I’m such a fool because I *risked* myocarditis and death and long Covid. Ok, lol.
Note - nowhere did I say I thought nattokinase would bind or degrade spike as asserted by McCullough. I am unaware of the physiological mechanism there. I merely said I thought nattokinase might’ve been helpful in the toolkit during actual Covid.
I tend to think of nattokinase as an anti-coagulant and fibrinolytic agent as a potential Covid treatment. That was my thought process. But, it appears there is some research as a candidate for S protein degradation as well. It’s nothing if not interesting.
Yes thats the paper he cited... It's not super informative that a serine protease can modify/digest over-expressed surface proteins such that they no longer stain with antibody.
Again how do you propose getting this functional enzyme in you systemically (hint: the stomach isnt going to work)? This is just McCullough taking you for a ride. It's an inane idea that has a single experiment paper which he can use to pseduo-scientifically back it up.. crank out a substack piece... and move on.
Anything can have a plausible biological/biochemical explanation... that's the easy part. Showing it works in living organisms is like 20 orders of magnitude harder. I'll spoil this one for you... nattokinase supplementation does nothing for COVID infection or "vaccine detox."
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Topol info wrote:
Vaccines protect you from CV death/disease (likely from mitigating the effects of a bad viral infection): 30-40 studies confirm
Vaccines send you the hospital with myocarditis: 1 or 2 studies from shoddily categorized data.
Anti-vaxxers with heads in sand...
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2600 bro wrote:
Covidiocy wrote:
I tend to think of nattokinase as an anti-coagulant and fibrinolytic agent as a potential Covid treatment. That was my thought process. But, it appears there is some research as a candidate for S protein degradation as well. It’s nothing if not interesting.
Yes thats the paper he cited... It's not super informative that a serine protease can modify/digest over-expressed surface proteins such that they no longer stain with antibody.
Again how do you propose getting this functional enzyme in you systemically (hint: the stomach isnt going to work)? This is just McCullough taking you for a ride. It's an inane idea that has a single experiment paper which he can use to pseduo-scientifically back it up.. crank out a substack piece... and move on.
Anything can have a plausible biological/biochemical explanation... that's the easy part. Showing it works in living organisms is like 20 orders of magnitude harder. I'll spoil this one for you... nattokinase supplementation does nothing for COVID infection or "vaccine detox."
I take your point, I really do. We don’t totally speak different languages. In vitro is way easier to do than in vivo, yes, true. But, by your analysis, the medical authorities and doctors are wrong to prescribe aspirin for a heart attack then.
Nattokinase may only degrade spike in vitro, but, it surely works as an anti-coagulant and fibrinolytic agent. Surely antivirals like Paxlovid aren’t totally rendered ineffective before their chemical constituents become bioavailable… That also doesn’t make them necessary either.
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DanM wrote:
Joe-no-nuts wrote:
wow 2 year old news story... way to keep current.
Happy 800 days of Covid "vaccines".
Get a free Fauci bobblehead with your next "booster".
It is indeed happy days for us Dan. We were supposed to have dropped dead by heart attacks and strokes according to the desperate wishes of antivaxxers, but we're still here somehow, to the delicious devastation of said antivaxxers. Life is great!
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DanM wrote:
Happy 800 days of Covid "vaccines".
Get a free Fauci bobblehead with your next "booster".
It is indeed happy days for us Dan. We were supposed to have dropped dead by heart attacks and strokes according to the desperate wishes of antivaxxers, but we're still here somehow, to the delicious devastation of said antivaxxers. Life is great!
Another day, another set of antivaxxers praying desperately for mass death
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If the excess deaths, particularly incidences of cardiac issues, are even acknowledged by media outlets, it's always attributed to COVID sequelae. Surely there's enough people remaining who haven't been vaccinated that we can enroll in studies along with vaccinated people to determine if the ongoing excess deaths are more than likely COVID sequelae or perhaps driven in part by complications by certain novel pharmacological interventions.
I'm not a political ideologue by the way. Just want our officials to be held accountable if they really did commit fault here. The fact that we're not even allowed to question this is concerning.
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