zxvczxvc wrote:
160k deaths per year from COVID now, or about 5x your normal yearly flu deaths, says that the risks remain real.
But Pfizer said their "vaccine" was 95% effective.
This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
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DanM wrote:
zxvczxvc wrote:
160k deaths per year from COVID now, or about 5x your normal yearly flu deaths, says that the risks remain real.
But Pfizer said their "vaccine" was 95% effective.
Honestly, Vicks First Defense and Zicam are probably better than the vaccine. Let’s do a RCT on those.
Everytime I feel a sickness coming on now, I take this stuff and it knocks it right out. Imagine if it really were that simple, lol.
Meanwhile, James O’Keefe is out at Project Veritas, just another Pfizer victim. Amazing that video of Jordon Walker, the poster child for wokeness run amuck, never got traction in any MSM.
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DanM wrote:
zxvczxvc wrote:
160k deaths per year from COVID now, or about 5x your normal yearly flu deaths, says that the risks remain real.
But Pfizer said their "vaccine" was 95% effective.
more DanM lying. They said their vaccine has a 95% efficacy is certainly compelling evidence that a vaccine works well.
But that number doesn’t tell you what your chances are of becoming sick if you get vaccinated. And on its own, it also doesn’t say how well the vaccine will bring down COVID-19 across the United States.
I like how how Dan continually show us how stupid he really is. He does all the work for us.!
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Next Up: 50,000 Fauci bobbleheads.
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DIck Cheney- "we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators"
Trump- "mexico will pay for the wall"
Dan M- This will go away in a few weeks.
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Newname wrote:
mussibini wrote:
Calling a mask a diaper shows just what an ignorant fool you are.
Not a diaper. A face diaper
I’ve noticed people who live with roommates in cramped sh*tholes despise masks 😷 and hate seeing others wearing them so much, but then the people with own living space don’t mind wearing them just when they go out in public indoor spaces where there are crowds.
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Covidiocy wrote:
Meanwhile, James O’Keefe is out at Project Veritas, just another Pfizer victim. Amazing that video of Jordon Walker, the poster child for wokeness run amuck, never got traction in any MSM.
Look at the amount of advertising time the pharmaceutical companies buy from the MSM. Follow the money and ask your doctor about Ozempic.
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Joe-no-nuts wrote:
joedonuts wrote:
How old are you? If you are like most of the posters on this board, your risks are likely about the same as they were prior to COVID (pull up excess deaths for those under 25 on the CDC excess deaths site). Boosters showed no effectiveness for those 18-49 (which the CDC tried to cover up). Prior infection was far superior to vaccination in terms of preventing future infections. Vaccination does not really prevent infection, so one is not providing protection for anyone other than themselves, thus there is no basis for mandates. Those are the facts.
and another chestnut..
"old people don't count" You are a terrible human.
I never said old people shouldn't choose to get the vaccine. The numbers are compelling enough for old people to do so (and most are astute enough to do the analysis themselves). I recommended my father, stepmom and mother-in-law all get the vaccine. My wife and I got the initial vaccination series, myself. Neither of us bothered with the boosters because we got infected with omicron. I didn't vaccinate my kids because there was not compelling data to do so (none had anything more than a runny nose when they had COVID). All of my decisions have been based upon the best information available at the time (risk vs reward). The problem with a lot on the left is that objective science has been thrown out the window. You can compare recent data from the UK (a nation with high booster uptake) against data from the USA (a nation with low booster uptake) and tell me if there is evidence the boosters make a difference in excess deaths in a post omicron world.
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2600 bro wrote:
joedonuts wrote:
Harambe and Armstronglivs hero Ardern resigned last month with a 30% approval rating as she decided to quit rather than deal with the economic hurricane her policies left in their wake.
Permanent Zero COVID has been idiotic since the mass rollout of vaccines.
Hard to argue that NZ didn't save lives though.
At what cost, though? You are heading towards global war, rising food insecurity, rising crime, rising overdoses, etc. All are byproducts of the sacred shutdowns.
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fisky wrote:
unlucky for me wrote:
I had the astrazeneka vaccine, then moderna. In between I was diagnosed with Parkinson's. I am still not 100 percent sure I have it, in difference to my neurologist's finding. He can't be sure the vaccine was not the cause, It's just too early.
I would urge that you look into alternative treatments for vaccine damage, specifically LED therapy and ozone therapy. I have a friend who benefitted from the former and I've chatted with a doctor who does ozone therapy. It sounded promising and Parkinson's is an extremely serious illness. Just because traditional medicine thinks that there is no cure does not mean that you can't find an alternative medicine approach that will work for you.
I have two friends with Parkinson's. I wish you the best.
Followup: This morning, I saw the following article on nattokinase as a treatment for vaccine damage. It's a substance derived from, I think, fermented soybeans. I have no idea if this would help you, but since the medical/pharmaceutical industry doesn't recognize vaccine damage AND since traditional medicine has no cure for Parkinson's, you'll have to be proactive in finding a solution for your condition. It appears that nattokinase works on clotting and heart damage, but who knows if it's related to your condition.
Anyway, I saw this and assumed you wouldn't see it, so I wanted you to know what's being looked at for vaccine damage. Best of luck.
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Joe-no-nuts wrote:
DanM wrote:
But Pfizer said their "vaccine" was 95% effective.
more DanM lying. They said their vaccine has a 95% efficacy is certainly compelling evidence that a vaccine works well.
But that number doesn’t tell you what your chances are of becoming sick if you get vaccinated. And on its own, it also doesn’t say how well the vaccine will bring down COVID-19 across the United States.
I like how how Dan continually show us how stupid he really is. He does all the work for us.!
What?
We were told that the vaccine would stop transmission in 95% of cases.
What do you think 95% efficacy means?
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Joe-no-nuts wrote:
DIck Cheney- "we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators"
Trump- "mexico will pay for the wall"
Dan M- This will go away in a few weeks.
When and where did Dan say that?
You didn't just make that up, did you?
How about the Big Pharma lies?
2 weeks to flatten the curve.
Take the jab and the pandemic ends.
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joedonuts wrote:
Joe-no-nuts wrote:
and another chestnut..
"old people don't count" You are a terrible human.
I never said old people shouldn't choose to get the vaccine. The numbers are compelling enough for old people to do so (and most are astute enough to do the analysis themselves). I recommended my father, stepmom and mother-in-law all get the vaccine. My wife and I got the initial vaccination series, myself. Neither of us bothered with the boosters because we got infected with omicron. I didn't vaccinate my kids because there was not compelling data to do so (none had anything more than a runny nose when they had COVID). All of my decisions have been based upon the best information available at the time (risk vs reward). The problem with a lot on the left is that objective science has been thrown out the window. You can compare recent data from the UK (a nation with high booster uptake) against data from the USA (a nation with low booster uptake) and tell me if there is evidence the boosters make a difference in excess deaths in a post omicron world.
What numbers say it makes sense for old people to get jabb'ed.
Yes, it is clear from all data that older people are more at risk from Covid.
But where is the data that shows taking the jab does any good for them?
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Get vaccinated and stop prolonging the pandemic.
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fisky wrote:
fisky wrote:
I would urge that you look into alternative treatments for vaccine damage, specifically LED therapy and ozone therapy. I have a friend who benefitted from the former and I've chatted with a doctor who does ozone therapy. It sounded promising and Parkinson's is an extremely serious illness. Just because traditional medicine thinks that there is no cure does not mean that you can't find an alternative medicine approach that will work for you.
I have two friends with Parkinson's. I wish you the best.
Followup: This morning, I saw the following article on nattokinase as a treatment for vaccine damage. It's a substance derived from, I think, fermented soybeans. I have no idea if this would help you, but since the medical/pharmaceutical industry doesn't recognize vaccine damage AND since traditional medicine has no cure for Parkinson's, you'll have to be proactive in finding a solution for your condition. It appears that nattokinase works on clotting and heart damage, but who knows if it's related to your condition.
Anyway, I saw this and assumed you wouldn't see it, so I wanted you to know what's being looked at for vaccine damage. Best of luck.
C’mon Fisky… don’t you know that McCullough is just a grifter and a rogue MD? Lol.
Honestly, nattokinase was probably a great thing to take during Covid too, but you will never see any robust RCTs on stuff like this.
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Getting a tdap vaccine tomorrow. Suck it you anti vaxx dorks. I came here to say that in spite. Suck it!
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Newname wrote:
Joe-no-nuts wrote:
more DanM lying. They said their vaccine has a 95% efficacy is certainly compelling evidence that a vaccine works well.
But that number doesn’t tell you what your chances are of becoming sick if you get vaccinated. And on its own, it also doesn’t say how well the vaccine will bring down COVID-19 across the United States.
I like how how Dan continually show us how stupid he really is. He does all the work for us.!
What?
We were told that the vaccine would stop transmission in 95% of cases.
What do you think 95% efficacy means?
it means that in the trial for the original vaccine on original Covid, only 9 out of 170 people got covid with the vaccine. The study never claimed that 95% percent of people outside the study would be protected as such for a variety of reason (one of the reason is anti-vax idiots who allowed the virus to mutate) Heck,even the original trial showed that people with the vaccine got covid.
Delta changed the virology of Covid, making it transmissible even with the vaccine (AND previous Covid infection). The vaccine still was effective in reducing severity and that continues to this day.
Just because the media hype and your personal ignorance didn't understand doesn't make it true.
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wow 2 year old news story... way to keep current.
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Newname wrote:
Joe-no-nuts wrote:
DIck Cheney- "we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators"
Trump- "mexico will pay for the wall"
Dan M- This will go away in a few weeks.
When and where did Dan say that?
You didn't just make that up, did you?
How about the Big Pharma lies?
2 weeks to flatten the curve.
Take the jab and the pandemic ends.
we did flatten the curve.
and your other lies. Here is an actual headline from 2020.
(god you are dumb and bad at "research:)
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