Jake Dearden runs a 2:22 today in Houston… never seen someone who is more obvious on the juice than this man. Runs a solo 68 HM last weekend and follows it up with a 2:22 today, improving by almost 6 minutes on his already suspicious PB from last year.
USATF/USADA/WADA really need to test the influencer crowd.
As someone who is thankfully not plugged into the world of juicing, I’m very curious: what PEDs is this guy likely on? Testosterone? EPO? I have no idea what combo gets a mid runner down to 2:22/68.
USATF/USADA/WADA really need to test the influencer crowd.
As someone who is thankfully not plugged into the world of juicing, I’m very curious: what PEDs is this guy likely on? Testosterone? EPO? I have no idea what combo gets a mid runner down to 2:22/68.
HYROX does not really test, so he can take what he wants. Of course, it's completely unethical, as he will be promoting all the legal, snake-oil supplements and apps like Runna as the key to his success.
Something like this is typical for Crossfit and HYROX athletes:
For Recovery: Peptides (BPC-157 and TB-500), Testosterone (not huge amounts), and HGH (very expensive, but very effective)
For Endurance: EPO
I'd say the major benefit comes from the recovery stack. You'll see people like that bus driver bloke probably just on Testosterone (although he'll justify it as TRT) running three hard works outs a week and his "easy runs" at marathon pace or faster. While EPO works well, they don't need superhuman levels of endurance to run these times, quick recovery and adaptation is the major bump!
Crikey, Foggdogs splits were rank average, should have taken Elson.
They shouldn’t have taken Fogg, Weir or Millard
Fogg and Millard hadn’t raced cross for a year and neither could be bothered to do the Euro trial race despite being fit and available. It’s doubly insulting that Millard was made GB captain for an event she made no effort to be part of.
Weir somehow made the worlds team despite finishing 5th in the short trial behind two women who medalled at Euro Cross.
For two athletes who are similar too in terms of pedigree and ability, I’d be wanting Elson over Fogg every time. Elson seems more clutch and can raise his performance whereas Fogg seems to fall apart time and time again.
Horrific selection policy by UKA
Obviously Elson wanted to go, so that's a strange call, but I'd be interested to know if any athletes made themselves unavailable for selection prior to India being selected. Whether they're focused on indoors or a road race, or perhaps didn't want to travel to the states - given current events I don't blame them. I'm surprised how many east-Africans turned up, running the risk of being bundled into a van any time they pop to the shops.
Crikey, Foggdogs splits were rank average, should have taken Elson.
They shouldn’t have taken Fogg, Weir or Millard
Fogg and Millard hadn’t raced cross for a year and neither could be bothered to do the Euro trial race despite being fit and available. It’s doubly insulting that Millard was made GB captain for an event she made no effort to be part of.
Weir somehow made the worlds team despite finishing 5th in the short trial behind two women who medalled at Euro Cross.
For two athletes who are similar too in terms of pedigree and ability, I’d be wanting Elson over Fogg every time. Elson seems more clutch and can raise his performance whereas Fogg seems to fall apart time and time again.
Horrific selection policy by UKA
I have it on good authority that Fogg's a bit of an arrogant twat.
I'm pretty skeptical that anyone in this crowd is taking EPO. My understanding is that it requires a level of supervision and monitoring that the gymbro type isn't likely to have access to or be diligent enough about, unless you want to spontaneously die in the middle of the night. But I may be wrong.
I think definitely there's TRT or low-dose prohormones, bpc157/tb500, tesamolerin and the equivalents. But probably the big thing is slu-pp-332, gw-501516, and aicar.
Watch the BBC documentry with Mark Daley on doping. Micro dosing of EPO doesn't seem to be difficult and the results appear to be pretty significant. It's quite alarming how easily the journalist was able to acquire the drugs. I'm pretty sure it's happening much more than most people think
Yeah I've seen it, I'm not saying it's impossible for a weekend warrior to get on EPO, just that it's unlikely that they would do so given the barriers to entry/complexity when they can take something much easier that's going to have a similar effectiveness at their level. An EPO program is like rocket science compared to the stuff gymbros are getting off sarm sites. And remember '516 was the belle of the ball at Beijing 2008.
Calum Goddard-Mocklow of the Motional Intelligence podcast has announced he's running London Marathon with Runna (shock). He has also said he is going for sub 3, LOL.
Considering he is averaging 34km a week and his recent 'easy runs' have been 6 minute K's with a HR in the mid 150s, good luck to him. What actually goes through these kids heads when they choose a goal time?
Annnnd hes 'injured' already...
Got to be one of the biggest clowns in the scamfluencer space. And that takes some doing
USATF/USADA/WADA really need to test the influencer crowd.
As someone who is thankfully not plugged into the world of juicing, I’m very curious: what PEDs is this guy likely on? Testosterone? EPO? I have no idea what combo gets a mid runner down to 2:22/68.
Had a 30 day Rx for prednisone. I remembered hearing about Salazar and his prednisone cream. Used that prescription to jump start getting back into running after >10 years off. No soreness felt on any of my runs. Two years later I’m still running but if I go the same pace (as I did when I had the prednisone ) for 2 days in a row, I’ll be stiff and sore. It’s amazing how much it tamps down inflammation.
HYROX does not really test, so he can take what he wants. Of course, it's completely unethical, as he will be promoting all the legal, snake-oil supplements and apps like Runna as the key to his success.
What is "rocket science" about EPO dosing? There are plenty of studies showing effective dosing with virtually zero risk of serious side effects. The stories about 60 haematocrit in pro cyclists are not relevant to someone copying reasonable protocols.
It's really no different to just taking a very low "HRT" dose of testosterone.
A proper steroid program is arguably much more complex than EPO as you are usually stacking and have PCT to think about.
it's rocket science compared to the substances that I believe a ton of casuals are taking nowadays. it's not rocket science for anyone who knows what they're doing.
casuals nowadays don't even do "proper steroid programs". you don't have to worry about PCT when you are just cruising TRT for life anyway. "blast and cruise" has all but replaced "the cycle" in the discourse in enhanced fitness circles.
i don't think i was clear enough, but i don't think it's impossible for a casual to do epo. i just don't think they're likely to. i'm afraid the drugs nowadays are so easy to get ahold of and so easy to do, that looking at this through the lens of techniques from the 90's is going to keep anti-doping way behind the drug cheats (which i think is currently a lot more prevelent at the casual/amateur level than it ever was).
nowadays someone could dope themselves from 2:45 to 2:25 without even knowing what the word hematocrit means.
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nowadays someone could dope themselves from 2:45 to 2:25 without even knowing what the word hematocrit means.
Correct, and all while, in their mind, doing it "ethically" because they got a real prescription from a real doctor.
If you haven't already, everyone is just going to have to accept that you're getting beat in races by dopers, and that's not going to change. It sucks.
I'm pretty skeptical that anyone in this crowd is taking EPO. My understanding is that it requires a level of supervision and monitoring that the gymbro type isn't likely to have access to or be diligent enough about, unless you want to spontaneously die in the middle of the night. But I may be wrong.
I think definitely there's TRT or low-dose prohormones, bpc157/tb500, tesamolerin and the equivalents. But probably the big thing is slu-pp-332, gw-501516, and aicar.
You must be new here? "requires a level of supervision and monitoring"....okay. So does TRT then.
Micro dosing EPO is something a simpleton gym bro could probably easily do. Especially if they are not going to ever get drug tested. They're willing to probably take some risk with clots. Remember Christian Hesch or Eddy H? It's not rocket science. Keep the hematocrit under 50-52, right?
Maybe this has been asked here. I have been thinking about vlogging/filming training and writing up recaps, mostly focusing on NSM. What are aspects of training vids do people enjoy to see? Is it all just personality based? Visuals?
I'm pretty skeptical that anyone in this crowd is taking EPO. My understanding is that it requires a level of supervision and monitoring that the gymbro type isn't likely to have access to or be diligent enough about, unless you want to spontaneously die in the middle of the night. But I may be wrong.
I think definitely there's TRT or low-dose prohormones, bpc157/tb500, tesamolerin and the equivalents. But probably the big thing is slu-pp-332, gw-501516, and aicar.
You must be new here? "requires a level of supervision and monitoring"....okay. So does TRT then.
Micro dosing EPO is something a simpleton gym bro could probably easily do. Especially if they are not going to ever get drug tested. They're willing to probably take some risk with clots. Remember Christian Hesch or Eddy H? It's not rocket science. Keep the hematocrit under 50-52, right?
I hinted at this earlier: they probably don’t need EPO if they’re already running HGH, testosterone (TES), and whatever peptides are currently trendy. Also, taking TES just to reach the levels of a 20-year-old isn’t TRT (their dose may fall within TRT ranges); they don’t have hypogonadism, meaning they can still produce natural testosterone—there’s nothing therapeutic about it. It’s essentially a year-round, low-dose steroid cycle. I think a lot of bros, because they’re not using supraphysiological doses like bodybuilders, don’t see it as PED use. However, their hormone levels never fluctuate due to overtraining, which makes a huge difference. Doing the chronic cardio required to run a 2:20-ish marathon can tank your TES levels—Jake won’t have this issue.
Maybe this has been asked here. I have been thinking about vlogging/filming training and writing up recaps, mostly focusing on NSM. What are aspects of training vids do people enjoy to see? Is it all just personality based? Visuals?
yes a lot of it is personality based.
but there's a notable difference in the channels that are creating content because it matters to them, and the ones creating content because it will get the most eyeballs. i think if you're asking what people want to see, it's kind of the wrong start.
no one ever answered "what do you want to see?" with "an hour long stream of consciousness and some freestyle rap in your driveway while holding up a running shoe". yet, it works (for some people). because Yowana cares about it.
people "want to see" (and the algorithm wants to see, which matters what people actually get to see) stuff like "10 ways to improve your running in 2026 -- i did this one and this happened" and "five things you should eat pre-run". but then you have to figure out how you're going to get individuality with the thousands of others out there. good luck.
Maybe this has been asked here. I have been thinking about vlogging/filming training and writing up recaps, mostly focusing on NSM. What are aspects of training vids do people enjoy to see? Is it all just personality based? Visuals?
My advice, watch someone like Donato for tips. Very experienced running YouTuber that has a lot of respect in the profession amongst peers. Oh yes