Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

L L wrote:

agip wrote:

I'm pretty sure race riots are going to pry some white old people back into the R column, yes.

They have been deserting trump but this will pull some back.

Won't there be even more black voter turnout against Trump at the same time?

That can flip North Carolina to Biden.

Trump is going to dig in on this, he has learned absolutely nothing about winning new votes. The officer who knelt on Floyd's neck is being charged with murder. Trump is going to feel pressure to speak out against that to keep the base happy and you can bet it's game over with most AFs at that point - they will come out in record numbers in Nov. Trump is in full desperation mode. The economy went down the drain, he's got no room to push China with tariffs, >100k dead on his watch and his incompetence was on full display everyday since he started lying about CV, polling is horrendous... he's fully boxed in but he's going to go out with a bang for sure. He's in dictator mode and not going back. Expect to see all out assaults and violations of the constitution. If polling continues to worsen in the coming months we will see some close allies start to flake and tippy toe away.

Smorbun wrote:

L L wrote:

NC being in danger shows how much ground Trump has to defend.

Interestingly, one of the few Hillary states the Trump campaign is focused on flipping to him is Minnesota.

I don't think recent events and his comments helps him flip that in his favor.

Biden/Ukraine and Biden/Sexual assault aren't carrying much weight.

You ain't black if you vote for Trump may not even hurt Biden.

The economy sucks.

Tens of thousands of people have died and keep dying from a pandemic Trump stopped caring about.

Looks like a slaughter.

Biden will destroy Trump in Minnesota.

Biden is sitting back and watching trump melt down... why bother to try any attention grabbing when you are polling better every day? Biden is not going to steal the spotlight from this psycho, he just needs to pretend the country is leaderless, which it is.

One of these guys gets it...

https://twitter.com/why_Franc/status/1266411921814818819?s=20

Now he's trying desperately to distract the country while >100k CV deaths and another innocent black guy murdered by police. Xi is laughing right in his orange face. What a weak man - said some mean things on twitter then praised Xi a million times the last few months. Result: China takes HK. Trump has no influence. Total disaster

Trollminator wrote:

Now he's trying desperately to distract the country while >100k CV deaths and another innocent black guy murdered by police. Xi is laughing right in his orange face. What a weak man - said some mean things on twitter then praised Xi a million times the last few months. Result: China takes HK. Trump has no influence. Total disaster

It's not a joke anymore. I hate this timeline. This is incredibly depressing. The US is the laughing stock of the world. Our greatest quality is our publicly supported scientific institutions, and those will soon be eroded (see the politicization of the CDC).

Our culture does not value what I value.

Nothing has changed. He appeals to whoever he appeals to. Nobody who wasn't a fan is now a fan.

Smorbun wrote:

kibitzer wrote:

You're welcome to your opinion, but I entirely disagree.

The only vote that counts--in the Electoral College--is going to be hella close.

I am only considering the Electoral College. Biden is leading in the polls in all swing states except NC, and there he is tied. He is within margin of error in Texas. It's not going to be close. Biden wins if he is breathing, and he does it easily.

I would love to be wrong, but the election is 158 days away. In this thrill-a-minute administration a *lot* can happen between now and then, and Trump has the bully pulpit.

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And it's a funny thing about the economy as an issue: I keep thinking back to the Great Recession. Different as that was (in so many ways) compared to our current situation, the year 2009 was worse than the year before in some important respects--even though the big "events" were in 2008. Similarly, all the "events" are likely to be this year; yet, though the economy is likely to be terrible on Election Day (despite the GOP's best efforts to make things better short-term), I think some of the *real* damage won't be apparent until 2021.

Whoever's going to be President is going to have a hard, hard time, and I don't know that s/he'll be able to get out from under as gracefully as Obama did. Pumping $$$ to consumers is not likely to solve this one, if there's nothing to buy with that money.

Trollminator wrote:

Smorbun wrote:

Biden will destroy Trump in Minnesota.

Biden is sitting back and watching trump melt down...

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

-- Napoleon Bonaparte

agip wrote:

No wise country should ever sign any sort of treaty again with the United States, as long as the Republican party exists in its present form.

https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1266442439805620232?s=20

Come on agip, this is some high school level cringe right here. And I'm curious to hear your alternatives. I hear Europe really has its sh!t together these days.

TTH wrote:

agip wrote:

I really think you underestimate or misunderstand trump's appeal.

his people want little more than to see that he is fighting. 'he's a jerk but he's our jerk' gets him millions of votes, and if trump is fighting the libs and the blacks, it's tens of millions of votes.

he's looking again like a fighter (rather than a passive guy in the virus war)

he's had a great, great week politically.

Nothing has changed. He appeals to whoever he appeals to. Nobody who wasn't a fan is now a fan.

I don't think that's true - race riots will pull white senior citizens back to the R fold. Scenes of cities in flames and looting will make old white people more conservative.

Racket wrote:

agip wrote:

No wise country should ever sign any sort of treaty again with the United States, as long as the Republican party exists in its present form.

https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1266442439805620232?s=20

Come on agip, this is some high school level cringe right here. And I'm curious to hear your alternatives. I hear Europe really has its sh!t together these days.

Trump is inviting China to step in and lead organizations like the WHO.

Europe is massively angry at Trump for ending the iran deal unilaterally.

Europe doesn't really think NATO is going to be the same.

the paris enviro accords were abandoned

TPP was killed by trump.

Multiple arms control treaties were ripped up.

NAFTA was torn up.

I mean I could go on.

A key element of democracy is the idea that a successor admin will stay within the guard rails and honor agreements made by the prior administration. It's clear now that anything a D signs can and probably will be ripped up by the next R president.

Probably China will step in and try to be the hub of international treaties. The US can't be trusted anymore.

maybe the better answer is that power abhors a vacuum. With the US stepping back other forms of power will be sucked in. Probably China but maybe some kind of new alliance we dont' see coming.

Or maybe it will just be chaos with no one shepherding the world. That would be bad.

rstjj wrote:

THE GIFT OF PROPHECY!

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/101146191_2905876069449827_5243794385652416512_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_oc=AQlPBT41ERnSeNe-GP62O8lHYgMFMxz6o19ouu7oLVz7r0zkViKlNHmLxldE6IqRiW6FE9e2lKD9DDT3y7z8r-36&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=bb26d992d9ab9dd0189f65d63338bc9d&oe=5EF758E3

Too bad some people are stuck in the past.

In the meantime, President Trump and his supporters are focusing on the present and the future.

We are winning bigly!

You are taking this further. I didn't say anything about the difficulties of being the next President. I only said that Biden will win and win easily as long as he is breathing. I'd be happy to discuss other topics with you, but this all started because I said Biden will win and win easily, because he will. As long as he is breathing on election day.

I will give you the reasons though, reasons that aren't going to change much between now and November.

We will be in a deep recession.

Unemployment rate will be terrible.

Trump is an impeached President, something Biden will talk about if he ever has to talk.

The polls in states where it matters are against him, and it is worse for him than any poll he had against Hillary.

Many of his voters have died since 2016, and the demographics favor Democrats.

People like to think that we have all made our minds up about Trump, and even if that were the case, evidence is that we as a nation have decided against him. But, lots of voters simply look at how they are doing on election day, and if they aren't doing that well, they vote against those in power. There are going to be a lot not doing well.

Trump is a continuing train wreck. He is going to lose big. He basically gave Michigan away with his behavior. Having to talk more and be in the limelight more will not help him.

Biden wins easily in November if he is breathing.

quotable quotes wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Biden is sitting back and watching trump melt down...

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

-- Napoleon Bonaparte

“Nunchuck skills… bowhunting skills… computer hacking skills… Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills!”

-- Napoleon Dynamite

No one really cares about any of this stuff. NAFTA was replaced with same thing, TPP had major critics, and the Paris environmental accords where an unenforceable joke from the start.

I'm trying to think of a time when this was literally even for a second a key element of democracy and I gotta be honest, I'm struggling to come up with examples. Administrations have come and gone. The Bush years were significantly more disrupting because that administration was actually evil and politically savvy enough to do damage. The Trump administration is just retards all the way down. Again, no one who matters really cares, and they're probably too busy dealing with the retards in their own country anyways.

Ah yes, of course. They're extremely popular right now I hear. Everyone is saying how much they trust China and how much they can't wait to rush into their arms.

Sentiment changes at the drop of the hat. In 2007 everyone hated us for starting a war in the Middle East on the falsest of all pretenses and said we were a country run by retards. By 2015 we were the darling star child of the entire world being led by the second coming of black Jesus Christ.

Enough of the aMeRiCa iS a fAiLeD sTaTe bullsh!t

The economy IS going to be terrible in Nov, and will worsen or remain stagnant for a while after. There was a feeling of some permanent shift in 2009 with financial services and housing market getting crushed, and indeed the appetite for risk never came back for these sectors. This is a different beast... global demand fell off the cliff and it's drifting down there, and the more time passes without blue skies, the more permanent the damage. I have no doubt that in NYC and other major economic hubs commercial real state will never experience the same growth and share, and that a significant chunk of the employment base will work remotely on a permanent basis and many will move further away to lower cost places. The latter is a massive issue that pulls the rug on hundreds of businesses that were totally reliant on that growth ecosystem - restaurants, gyms, banks, all sorts of service businesses. It amounts to a permanent restructure, a much lighter one with a lot less foot traffic.

I hear you, but I still say that international deal making will be much harder after Trump took a buzzsaw to many treaties that were very hard to work on and very hard to get signed.

The iran deal was a spectacular feat of diplomacy and a point of pride. Trump slapped it aside. This stuff is not forgotten.

Paris was a warmup, a first step. The message to the world from trump on enviro is to go on without us.

Yeah America is the 800 pound gorilla. Hard to get things done without us. But so was England...until it wasn't.

I think you are underestimating the importance of carrying on treaties to new administration. The idea that a treaty is signed between/among NATIONS and not unique ADMINISTRATIONS is a core concept of democracy and diplomacy. I dont' know how to say that any clearer. I'm surprised you disagree. Your view is that nuclear arms treaties are understood to be between say Reagan and Gorby...not the USSR and USA? That the USSR understood every 4 years the treaty would have to be re-evaluated? That's just not how diplomacy works. You sign something, you assume it's in place through different adminstrations. Simple.