agip wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
Nobody's talking about Biden's 'you ain't black" gaffe from last week anymore.
not true - it's still on right wing media
and the Trump campaign is going to weaponize it to lower black turnout in the fall.
you can buy GOP -sold shirts with those three words.
Young black men are already half out of the biden camp...this is going to cost some votes.
Maybe, but I think the effect will be minimal.
agip wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
Nobody's talking about Biden's 'you ain't black" gaffe from last week anymore.
not true - it's still on right wing media
and the Trump campaign is going to weaponize it to lower black turnout in the fall.
you can buy GOP -sold shirts with those three words.
Young black men are already half out of the biden camp...this is going to cost some votes.
And maybe the Biden campaign will weaponize “when the looting starts, the shooting starts”, even if they don’t it does nothing to win Trump black support and does a lot to motivate black Americans to vote against Trump.
Trump went back 52 years to promote a quote and man with a horrific reputation in the black community. A man whose police force murdered three people and wounded 18 more.
The American South. Making bad decisions since 1619
https://twitter.com/jerry_jtaylor/status/1266388518227644416?s=20
semsurrrrrrrr wrote:
agip wrote:
not true - it's still on right wing media
and the Trump campaign is going to weaponize it to lower black turnout in the fall.
you can buy GOP -sold shirts with those three words.
Young black men are already half out of the biden camp...this is going to cost some votes.
And maybe the Biden campaign will weaponize “when the looting starts, the shooting starts”, even if they don’t it does nothing to win Trump black support and does a lot to motivate black Americans to vote against Trump.
Trump went back 52 years to promote a quote and man with a horrific reputation in the black community. A man whose police force murdered three people and wounded 18 more.
Yeah I hear you but I do think this will cause some disenchanted black citizens to stay home instead of vote. If you have a 'pox on both their houses' mindset this reinforces it. And many young blacks do.
agip wrote:
L L wrote:
OK, he's good at changing the headlines but does that translate into votes?.
I'm pretty sure race riots are going to pry some white old people back into the R column, yes.
They have been deserting trump but this will pull some back.
It’ll be done in a few days and forgotten about by old white people.
What won’t be gone in a few days is Covid-19, record unemployment, health care issues, Twitter tantrums and a President busy promoting conspiracy theories about Joe Scarborough while average Americans are suffering badly.
agip wrote:
L L wrote:
OK, he's good at changing the headlines but does that translate into votes?.
I'm pretty sure race riots are going to pry some white old people back into the R column, yes.
They have been deserting trump but this will pull some back.
Won't there be even more black voter turnout against Trump at the same time?
That can flip North Carolina to Biden.
agip wrote:
semsurrrrrrrr wrote:
And maybe the Biden campaign will weaponize “when the looting starts, the shooting starts”, even if they don’t it does nothing to win Trump black support and does a lot to motivate black Americans to vote against Trump.
Trump went back 52 years to promote a quote and man with a horrific reputation in the black community. A man whose police force murdered three people and wounded 18 more.
Yeah I hear you but I do think this will cause some disenchanted black citizens to stay home instead of vote. If you have a 'pox on both their houses' mindset this reinforces it. And many young blacks do.
Black America is furious with Trump this morning, he crossed a line.
If Biden selects a black VP, that makes his hand stronger again in that community.
Black Americans won Biden the nomination and that was BEFORE Trumps comments and the likelihood of a black running mate.
semsurrrrrrrr wrote:
agip wrote:
Yeah I hear you but I do think this will cause some disenchanted black citizens to stay home instead of vote. If you have a 'pox on both their houses' mindset this reinforces it. And many young blacks do.
Black America is furious with Trump this morning, he crossed a line.
If Biden selects a black VP, that makes his hand stronger again in that community.
Black Americans won Biden the nomination and that was BEFORE Trumps comments and the likelihood of a black running mate.
yeah unless he picks kamala. The GOP is locked and loaded full of her prosecutions of black people, I'm sure. I hear there is some anger at Harris among blacks for being a cop.
But I still think she will be the Veep.
agip wrote:
semsurrrrrrrr wrote:
Black America is furious with Trump this morning, he crossed a line.
If Biden selects a black VP, that makes his hand stronger again in that community.
Black Americans won Biden the nomination and that was BEFORE Trumps comments and the likelihood of a black running mate.
yeah unless he picks kamala. The GOP is locked and loaded full of her prosecutions of black people, I'm sure. I hear there is some anger at Harris among blacks for being a cop.
But I still think she will be the Veep.
Hmm. Sounds like Stacy Abrams' stock is rising. I still think she's a risky pick, but you gotta admit, she has been on every show imaginable and has performed very well.
L L wrote:
agip wrote:
I'm pretty sure race riots are going to pry some white old people back into the R column, yes.
They have been deserting trump but this will pull some back.
Won't there be even more black voter turnout against Trump at the same time?
That can flip North Carolina to Biden.
Biden doesn't need NC to win and to win big. If he is breathing, he wins this election.
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
yeah unless he picks kamala. The GOP is locked and loaded full of her prosecutions of black people, I'm sure. I hear there is some anger at Harris among blacks for being a cop.
But I still think she will be the Veep.
Hmm. Sounds like Stacy Abrams' stock is rising. I still think she's a risky pick, but you gotta admit, she has been on every show imaginable and has performed very well.
Val demings is the current rising star.
But she’s not qualified either, and having her as the 2024 favorite is a bit questionable.
Smorbun wrote:
Biden doesn't need NC to win and to win big. If he is breathing, he wins this election.
You're welcome to your opinion, but I entirely disagree.
The only vote that counts--in the Electoral College--is going to be hella close.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
Nobody's talking about Biden's 'you ain't black" gaffe from last week anymore.
Biden said something stupid and apologized. Trump tweets or says something stupid on a daily basis and during his entire presidency he has never apologized even a single time.
It doesn't matter at all. Trumpers WANT someone who is unapologetic.
Trump can literally do nothing wrong in the eyes of his supporters. We are so incredibly f*cked.
Libertarian Centrist wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Biden said something stupid and apologized. Trump tweets or says something stupid on a daily basis and during his entire presidency he has never apologized even a single time.
It doesn't matter at all. Trumpers WANT someone who is unapologetic.
Trump can literally do nothing wrong in the eyes of his supporters. We are so incredibly f*cked.
we're f'd yes but the past few months have shown that trump can and does lose support.
Old white women are definitely peeling off, and there is some sign evangelicals are at least raising an eyebrow at the moran in chief.
Those are two key constituencies, esp in Florida.
kibitzer wrote:
Smorbun wrote:
Biden doesn't need NC to win and to win big. If he is breathing, he wins this election.
You're welcome to your opinion, but I entirely disagree.
The only vote that counts--in the Electoral College--is going to be hella close.
I am only considering the Electoral College. Biden is leading in the polls in all swing states except NC, and there he is tied. He is within margin of error in Texas. It's not going to be close. Biden wins if he is breathing, and he does it easily.
Smorbun wrote:
Biden doesn't need NC to win and to win big. If he is breathing, he wins this election.
NC being in danger shows how much ground Trump has to defend.
Interestingly, one of the few Hillary states the Trump campaign is focused on flipping to him is Minnesota.
I don't think recent events and his comments helps him flip that in his favor.
Biden/Ukraine and Biden/Sexual assault aren't carrying much weight.
You ain't black if you vote for Trump may not even hurt Biden.
The economy sucks.
Tens of thousands of people have died and keep dying from a pandemic Trump stopped caring about.
Looks like a slaughter.
No wise country should ever sign any sort of treaty again with the United States, as long as the Republican party exists in its present form.
agip wrote:
No wise country should ever sign any sort of treaty again with the United States, as long as the Republican party exists in its present form.
https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1266442439805620232?s=20
I wonder if this could mean that the US will be last in line to get a vaccine. Remember, lots of vaccine trials are going on all over the world and we don't know which one will win. The WHO has a lot of influence in vaccine distribution.
If I were Biden, I'd be working with my policy experts to see if that's a viable argument.
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
No wise country should ever sign any sort of treaty again with the United States, as long as the Republican party exists in its present form.
https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1266442439805620232?s=20I wonder if this could mean that the US will be last in line to get a vaccine. Remember, lots of vaccine trials are going on all over the world and we don't know which one will win. The WHO has a lot of influence in vaccine distribution.
If I were Biden, I'd be working with my policy experts to see if that's a viable argument.
I don't know... but money talks...the US is a giant, giant, giant market that is willing to spend trillions to get the vaccine. Money will find a way.
And most likely there will be more than one successful vaccine.
It's like Trump is working actively to boost Russia and China and reduce US influence.
He has busted TPP, WHO, the Iran deal. He is doing CHina's bidding on Hong Kong.
It's hard to imagine a foreign agent doing more damage to the US than trump has done/is doing.