http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/31/scaramucci-removed-as-white-house-communications-director.htmlTrumpette wrote:
TroLLminator wrote:Looks like NYT is reporting the mooch already got fired... he didn't even start!
Fake news! Very fake! Bigly fake!
NYT = MSM = UnAmerican FAKE news!
MAGA! MAGA!
Trump is a crooked con-man and stooge. The walls are closing in and the psychosis of Trump will continue to skyrocket.
I suggest you read this testimony that occurred last week while Team trump was desperately trying to distract the media..
Follow the Money!
Agreed. Kelly cannot run the WH like it was the Marines. He needs to look no further then Trump to see the negative after effects of someone who was in military school and had enough.
TroLLminator wrote:
This will eventually turn into a massive problem. An extremely competent guy working for the knucklehead Trump. Like with the other appointees, it's just a matter of time for Trump to do something really stupid putting Kelly in the difficult situation of having to defend him. Then he will be fired for lack of loyalty.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:General Kelly is a no-nonsense Marine who knows how to run an organization. Priebus was a weak GOP front man who couldn't control the leaks. Kelly will clean up the WH Staff, quickly.
Browder: Vladimir Putin, I believe him to be the richest man in the world, I believe him to be worth 200 billion dollars. That money is held in banks all over the world, in America and all over. The purpose of Putin’s regime has been to commit terrible crimes in order to get that money, and he doesn’t want to lose that money by having it frozen. So he personally is at risk of the Magnitsky Act. It’s a very personal, venal issue which is why, the first reason, why he’s so upset.
The second reason is that in order to get that $200 billion, he has had to instruct a lot of people working for him—let’s say ten thousand people working for him—to do terrible things: to arrest, kidnap, torture, and kill to take people's properties away. And as a result, the only way to get people to do such terrible things, is to say, if you do these terrible things, there will be no consequence. You will enjoy absolute impunity.
As a result of the Magnitsky Act, he can no longer guarantee absolute impunity, because all-of-a-sudden, we have created consequences in the West. I would not understate the value of the Magnitsky Act in terms of the consequences, because not only does it freeze the assets that are held in America, but the moment you get put on the Magnitsky List, you get put on the OFAC Sanctions List—which is a Treasury sanctions list. No bank in the world wants to be in violation of Treasury sanctions. And therefore, any bank, even if it is in South Korea or Dubai, if they see somebody on the Treasury sanctions list, [they] will close their account that day. And as a result, you basically become a financial pariah, and so it’s a real consequence
I'm tired of all the winning.
Count Chocula wrote:
Trumpette wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/31/scaramucci-removed-as-white-house-communications-director.htmlFake news! Very fake! Bigly fake!
NYT = MSM = UnAmerican FAKE news!
MAGA! MAGA!
Fake! Very Fake! Bigly Fake!
Fox has become just like the rest. Can't handle REALLY making America great again.
MAGA! MAGA!
Assuming anyone flocking to Trump is desperately opportunistic, Kelly probably thinks he has enough respect from Republicans and voters to shield him from Trump's antics when things go bad. I don't understand why any self respecting individual would choose to work under Trump unless they knew the risk/reward was extremely attractive. It's a lose-lose.
There is going to be some fun venting at thousands of backwater town bars across the country tonight. America is the laughing stock of the world.
Trumpette wrote:
Count Chocula wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/31/scaramucci-removed-as-white-house-communications-director.htmlFake! Very Fake! Bigly Fake!
Fox has become just like the rest. Can't handle REALLY making America great again.
MAGA! MAGA!
They won't know who Browder is. Bill Browder. He knows the ins and outs of how Putin operates. He testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee just last and proceeded to put several nails in Trump's coffin. Before he testified none other than Trump Jr. Russian lawyer, Veselnitskaya, claimed Browder gave false testimony via the Putin controlled Sputnik news service.BROWDER: "I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Russian intelligence services would have been aware of that meeting in advance as they were plotting it out, there would have been weeks spent studying how to best achieve the results in that meeting," Browder told the Senate judiciary committee Thursday.https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/https://sputniknews.com/us/201707261055903109-veselnitskaya-browder-testimony-senate/
disbelief! wrote:
Browder: Vladimir Putin, I believe him to be the richest man in the world, I believe him to be worth 200 billion dollars. That money is held in banks all over the world, in America and all over. The purpose of Putin’s regime has been to commit terrible crimes in order to get that money, and he doesn’t want to lose that money by having it frozen. So he personally is at risk of the Magnitsky Act. It’s a very personal, venal issue which is why, the first reason, why he’s so upset.
The second reason is that in order to get that $200 billion, he has had to instruct a lot of people working for him—let’s say ten thousand people working for him—to do terrible things: to arrest, kidnap, torture, and kill to take people's properties away. And as a result, the only way to get people to do such terrible things, is to say, if you do these terrible things, there will be no consequence. You will enjoy absolute impunity.
As a result of the Magnitsky Act, he can no longer guarantee absolute impunity, because all-of-a-sudden, we have created consequences in the West. I would not understate the value of the Magnitsky Act in terms of the consequences, because not only does it freeze the assets that are held in America, but the moment you get put on the Magnitsky List, you get put on the OFAC Sanctions List—which is a Treasury sanctions list. No bank in the world wants to be in violation of Treasury sanctions. And therefore, any bank, even if it is in South Korea or Dubai, if they see somebody on the Treasury sanctions list, [they] will close their account that day. And as a result, you basically become a financial pariah, and so it’s a real consequence
I am not kidding. I have never been so addicted and amused to watch this train wreck unfold before my eyes. I know that this is a serious matter (what with him running the world's super power, biggest economy and having the ability to launch WWIII) but this is better than any TV series I have ever seen.
His stupidity and narcissitic imploding gets taken up a notch every single week! He makes Baghdad Bob seem like a straight shooter.
Browder.... wrote:
They won't know who Browder is. Bill Browder. He knows the ins and outs of how Putin operates. He testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee just last and proceeded to put several nails in Trump's coffin. Before he testified none other than Trump Jr. Russian lawyer, Veselnitskaya, claimed Browder gave false testimony via the Putin controlled Sputnik news service.
BROWDER: "I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Russian intelligence services would have been aware of that meeting in advance as they were plotting it out, there would have been weeks spent studying how to best achieve the results in that meeting," Browder told the Senate judiciary committee Thursday.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/https://sputniknews.com/us/201707261055903109-veselnitskaya-browder-testimony-senate/disbelief! wrote:Browder: Vladimir Putin, I believe him to be the richest man in the world, I believe him to be worth 200 billion dollars. That money is held in banks all over the world, in America and all over. The purpose of Putin’s regime has been to commit terrible crimes in order to get that money, and he doesn’t want to lose that money by having it frozen. So he personally is at risk of the Magnitsky Act. It’s a very personal, venal issue which is why, the first reason, why he’s so upset.
The second reason is that in order to get that $200 billion, he has had to instruct a lot of people working for him—let’s say ten thousand people working for him—to do terrible things: to arrest, kidnap, torture, and kill to take people's properties away. And as a result, the only way to get people to do such terrible things, is to say, if you do these terrible things, there will be no consequence. You will enjoy absolute impunity.
As a result of the Magnitsky Act, he can no longer guarantee absolute impunity, because all-of-a-sudden, we have created consequences in the West. I would not understate the value of the Magnitsky Act in terms of the consequences, because not only does it freeze the assets that are held in America, but the moment you get put on the Magnitsky List, you get put on the OFAC Sanctions List—which is a Treasury sanctions list. No bank in the world wants to be in violation of Treasury sanctions. And therefore, any bank, even if it is in South Korea or Dubai, if they see somebody on the Treasury sanctions list, [they] will close their account that day. And as a result, you basically become a financial pariah, and so it’s a real consequence
I highly recommend his book:
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Finance-Murder-Justice-ebook/dp/B00LD1ORX6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501532441&sr=8-1&keywords=bill+browderThe sad part of this whole Russia thing is everyone's gross miscalculation of the level of complex maneuvering by Trump and team. It is simple, Trump is completely misinformed and unaware of any threats. He surrounded himself with people who are also oblivious to legal and policy issues. If Russia planned their contacts with Trump's people very carefully, they really overestimated the target. Likewise, anyone hoping to uncover some massive conspiracy isn't going to find it. They might find enough damaging stuff for impeachment, but it will have been as a result of sheer incompetence and lack of knowledge on Trump's part.Trump is innocent of information
Browder.... wrote:
They won't know who Browder is. Bill Browder. He knows the ins and outs of how Putin operates. He testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee just last and proceeded to put several nails in Trump's coffin. Before he testified none other than Trump Jr. Russian lawyer, Veselnitskaya, claimed Browder gave false testimony via the Putin controlled Sputnik news service.
BROWDER: "I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Russian intelligence services would have been aware of that meeting in advance as they were plotting it out, there would have been weeks spent studying how to best achieve the results in that meeting," Browder told the Senate judiciary committee Thursday.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/bill-browders-testimony-to-the-senate-judiciary-committee/534864/https://sputniknews.com/us/201707261055903109-veselnitskaya-browder-testimony-senate/disbelief! wrote:Browder: Vladimir Putin, I believe him to be the richest man in the world, I believe him to be worth 200 billion dollars. That money is held in banks all over the world, in America and all over. The purpose of Putin’s regime has been to commit terrible crimes in order to get that money, and he doesn’t want to lose that money by having it frozen. So he personally is at risk of the Magnitsky Act. It’s a very personal, venal issue which is why, the first reason, why he’s so upset.
The second reason is that in order to get that $200 billion, he has had to instruct a lot of people working for him—let’s say ten thousand people working for him—to do terrible things: to arrest, kidnap, torture, and kill to take people's properties away. And as a result, the only way to get people to do such terrible things, is to say, if you do these terrible things, there will be no consequence. You will enjoy absolute impunity.
As a result of the Magnitsky Act, he can no longer guarantee absolute impunity, because all-of-a-sudden, we have created consequences in the West. I would not understate the value of the Magnitsky Act in terms of the consequences, because not only does it freeze the assets that are held in America, but the moment you get put on the Magnitsky List, you get put on the OFAC Sanctions List—which is a Treasury sanctions list. No bank in the world wants to be in violation of Treasury sanctions. And therefore, any bank, even if it is in South Korea or Dubai, if they see somebody on the Treasury sanctions list, [they] will close their account that day. And as a result, you basically become a financial pariah, and so it’s a real consequence
... Oh, and Browder is a reason that Putin banned US adoptions of Russian orphans as retaliation for uncovering Russian financial misdeeds. He is known as the man who stood up to Putin.
Browder founded Hermitage Capital Management which uncovered the financial misdeed, and his attorney Sergei Magnitsky, was arrested, and convicted by a Putin Kangaroo court of the financial misdeed they uncovered. Magnitsky died while in Russian custody before his trail could start. This death resulted in The US Congress passing the Magnitsky Act, signed into law in 2012. The act directly targeted individuals involved in the Magnitsky affair by prohibiting their entrance to the United States and their use of its banking system, and prompted the Russian government to retaliate by prohibiting adoption of Russian children by American citizens, and prohibiting certain individuals from entering Russia.
Veselnitskaya is based in Moscow at the law firm Camerton Consulting. In the past four years, she has lobbied against the Magnitsky Act,
So, there is your link between adoptions and Russia, and back to Veselnitskaya.
Trump is not completely ignorant even though he is a stooge and easily manipulated. His motivation is money and his brand.
He has been doing these shady deals with corrupt Russians for over a decade. He could get no credit in the US so he gets his financing from these Russian criminals. They allow him to buy the highest priced real estate properties. Then the criminals get payback buy being permitted to launder their money by buying this expensive real estate pieces through hidden shell corporations. He sought the presidency to boost this brand and to keep the money flowing. Hell, Kushner is on record bragging that foreign investors would get political access to trump for money!
So now he gets into the office of President and his focus is on his Trump brand but he has to pretend to care about doing the job of the president. His whole life he has been a terrible manager and a corrupt con man so he is running the presidency the only way he knows how. His problem is Mueller is ready to blow. This is going to be awesome to watch! I was so happy to learn that Mueller is going to look at family business and watch Trump squirm.
I haven't watched television in years. This, though, this complete fubar by Trump, the GOP, and the delusional minority flyover population of the US has brought me back. Watching the Republican figureheads squirm nightly when addressing this insanity is better than anything else I can do with my evenings.
Thanks, Tea Party! What hath you wrought?
Oh, and ... BUT. HER. EMAILS!
I'm laughing so hard my co-workers think I've lost it.
disbelief! wrote:
Trump is a crooked con-man and stooge. The walls are closing in and the psychosis of Trump will continue to skyrocket.
I suggest you read this testimony that occurred last week while Team trump was desperately trying to distract the media..
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bill-browders-senate-judiciary-committee-hearing_uk_597ee55ce4b02a4ebb7675a6?Follow the Money!
Meh, just a bunch of talk about adoptions.
Big nothing sandwich.
MAGA! MAGA!
True, he does only care about money and his brand. BUT he is unable to process complex information and is only interested in finding people that can deliver quick solutions. In essence, he doesn't want to get caught doing anything illegal, but he is way too complacent and misinformed to ensure it doesn't happen.
disbelief! wrote:
Trump is not completely ignorant even though he is a stooge and easily manipulated. His motivation is money and his brand.
He has been doing these shady deals with corrupt Russians for over a decade. He could get no credit in the US so he gets his financing from these Russian criminals. They allow him to buy the highest priced real estate properties. Then the criminals get payback buy being permitted to launder their money by buying this expensive real estate pieces through hidden shell corporations. He sought the presidency to boost this brand and to keep the money flowing. Hell, Kushner is on record bragging that foreign investors would get political access to trump for money!
So now he gets into the office of President and his focus is on his Trump brand but he has to pretend to care about doing the job of the president. His whole life he has been a terrible manager and a corrupt con man so he is running the presidency the only way he knows how. His problem is Mueller is ready to blow. This is going to be awesome to watch! I was so happy to learn that Mueller is going to look at family business and watch Trump squirm.
[quote]TroLLminator wrote:
True, he does only care about money and his brand. BUT he is unable to process complex information and is only interested in finding people that can deliver quick solutions. In essence, he doesn't want to get caught doing anything illegal, but he is way too complacent and misinformed to ensure it doesn't happen.
[quote]disbelief! wrote:
No argument there. He has publicly admitted that he doesn't like to read and instead watches cable news. When he took office his cabinet members had to dumb down reports to a sentence or two for him to process. If you read his interviews they read like a garbled pile of word vomit that makes no sense.
But I am confident that his increasingly self destructive behavior is directly a result of knowing that his business dealings for the last 10 years are going to be exposed. Very fun (yet sad and pathetic) to watch.
+1He also prefers simple visual aides, as that helps him better retain information. A funny one for you:http://nypost.com/2017/05/17/how-trumps-aides-trick-him-into-reading-press-briefings/
disbelief! wrote:
[quote]TroLLminator wrote:
True, he does only care about money and his brand. BUT he is unable to process complex information and is only interested in finding people that can deliver quick solutions. In essence, he doesn't want to get caught doing anything illegal, but he is way too complacent and misinformed to ensure it doesn't happen.
[quote]disbelief! wrote:
No argument there. He has publicly admitted that he doesn't like to read and instead watches cable news. When he took office his cabinet members had to dumb down reports to a sentence or two for him to process. If you read his interviews they read like a garbled pile of word vomit that makes no sense.
But I am confident that his increasingly self destructive behavior is directly a result of knowing that his business dealings for the last 10 years are going to be exposed. Very fun (yet sad and pathetic) to watch.
disbelief! wrote:
[quote]TroLLminator wrote:
True, he does only care about money and his brand. BUT he is unable to process complex information and is only interested in finding people that can deliver quick solutions. In essence, he doesn't want to get caught doing anything illegal, but he is way too complacent and misinformed to ensure it doesn't happen.
[quote]disbelief! wrote:
No argument there. He has publicly admitted that he doesn't like to read and instead watches cable news. When he took office his cabinet members had to dumb down reports to a sentence or two for him to process. If you read his interviews they read like a garbled pile of word vomit that makes no sense.
But I am confident that his increasingly self destructive behavior is directly a result of knowing that his business dealings for the last 10 years are going to be exposed. Very fun (yet sad and pathetic) to watch.
Don't know if you should be getting all giddy. Trump has clearly established a pattern of unleashing the outrageous to distract from the incompetent/criminal. He may well get to the point of thinking he needs a REALLY BIG distraction.
We all know what the biggest distraction of all is. Pray we don't get there.