Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

CountChocula wrote:

For as much as people joke about 'owning the libs', the reality is that every time someone from one of the coasts makes fun of Trump voters or "red" states in general, it just makes those people more likely to vote for Trump out of spite. I'm not talking about criticism of Trump, which can be valid, but when people make blanket declarations that his voters (and "red" states) are racist, stupid, etc.

I would also have to say that if one assumes that all Trump voters are racists, homophobes, idiots, etc. they would be very surprised to learn who actually voted for him.

Hear, hear!

I'm closely related to some educated and intelligent Trump voters and they belie the oafish stereotype. We should remember that median household income for Trump's voters in 2016 was *higher* than median household income for Clinton's--so much for the trailer-park remarks.

And yes, the media gave DJT *billions* of dollars of free advertising in 2016, and are already starting to do it again.

Loads of elites voted for Trump and the GOP, no surprise there. He rewarded them with huge tax cuts.

So much for forgotten man narrative.

Make America Great Again! wrote:

They picked the most clueless people from thousands of Trump supporters to make them look bad. This will only energize the Trump base because it shows how the liberal media look down on the forgotten men and women of America.

The liberal media are creating these snarky propaganda video because they want President Trump to be reelected. Trump presidency has been good for their ratings and they want four more years of that. The gullible viewers are played by the media elites who are laughing their way to the bank.

thanks a lot POTUS wrote:

Trump voters, meet your peers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzDhm808oU4

Such a stupid post has to be from Sally. Sally, just stop posting. You are so easy to see.

semsurrrrrrrrrr wrote:

Loads of elites voted for Trump and the GOP, no surprise there. He rewarded them with huge tax cuts.

How many 'elites' do you think there are, and how many of them live in red/purple states? Could they really make the difference in an election with over 100 million votes cast?

Anyone who votes in 2020 for Trump for spite or any other reason is an idiot. He fooled a lot of people in 2016, and no not all those who voted for him were idiots, but anyone supporting that man now is a moron.

CountChocula wrote:

semsurrrrrrrrrr wrote:

Loads of elites voted for Trump and the GOP, no surprise there. He rewarded them with huge tax cuts.

How many 'elites' do you think there are, and how many of them live in red/purple states? Could they really make the difference in an election with over 100 million votes cast?

I think you missed the point entirely and yes their votes and money could make a difference.

Georgia was one of the last to lock down and the first to open up. So all eyes on my home state.

POLITICO compared nine weeks of non-seasonally-adjusted initial jobless claims to Georgia’s non-adjusted residential employment from February to determine the state’s jobless claims rate of 40.3 percent, which is currently the highest in the country.

The same Politico article has a prescient quote from Julia Coronado, president and founder of Macropolicy Perspectives, an economic research consulting firm.

“The economic story really isn’t about lockdowns, and we’re going to make mistakes by pursuing that narrative. It really is about the disease, and how fearful people are about getting sick, and how businesses are going to operate in a world where this virus is with us.”

Just opening up doesn't work!!!! We need to understand that we must defeat the virus first. There are no shortcuts.

Furthermore, the numbers from the Georgia Department of Health have me very worried. It looks like we are starting to spike again. I don't think school is going to start in the fall.

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/ned-barnett/article155509549.html

Thanks for the link. If I am reading the article correctly, the assertion is that 25% of Trump's votes came from white people without a college degree, whose income is below the national median (~$61k). Personally, I would not define someone as an elite just because they are nonwhite, have a college degree, or make more than $61k, but now I understand why we disagree on this.

CountChocula wrote:

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/ned-barnett/article155509549.html

Thanks for the link. If I am reading the article correctly, the assertion is that 25% of Trump's votes came from white people without a college degree, whose income is below the national median (~$61k). Personally, I would not define someone as an elite just because they are nonwhite, have a college degree, or make more than $61k, but now I understand why we disagree on this.

Ouch, is your reading comprehension really that bad?

The only claim I’m making and the article very clearly backs it up is that Trump voters are not necessarily the forgotten man or working class. He has plenty support from wealthier Americans.

Back to school for you kiddo.

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

CountChocula wrote:

Thanks for the link. If I am reading the article correctly, the assertion is that 25% of Trump's votes came from white people without a college degree, whose income is below the national median (~$61k). Personally, I would not define someone as an elite just because they are nonwhite, have a college degree, or make more than $61k, but now I understand why we disagree on this.

Ouch, is your reading comprehension really that bad?

The only claim I’m making and the article very clearly backs it up is that Trump voters are not necessarily the forgotten man or working class. He has plenty support from wealthier Americans.

Back to school for you kiddo.

+1, count needs to think better, not his finest hour.

Ciro wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52757150

this is as much on Gov Cuomo as it is on Trump.

Gov Cuomo did well once the crisis was entrenched, but he failed miserably in the early days.

It will be interesting to see if he ever gets stuck with the blame he deserves.

agip wrote:

Ciro wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52757150

this is as much on Gov Cuomo as it is on Trump.

Gov Cuomo did well once the crisis was entrenched, but he failed miserably in the early days.

It will be interesting to see if he ever gets stuck with the blame he deserves.

Both responsible but I think the buck stops with any President.

Ciro wrote:

agip wrote:

this is as much on Gov Cuomo as it is on Trump.

Gov Cuomo did well once the crisis was entrenched, but he failed miserably in the early days.

It will be interesting to see if he ever gets stuck with the blame he deserves.

Both responsible but I think the buck stops with any President.

People are very forgiving. Cuomo did do better as the crisis wore on and he will always be given high marks for that.

Even Tiny was starting to become more popular when it looked like he was taking the pandemic seriously. But now he's back to magical thinking and his numbers are getting worse.

Ciro wrote:

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

Ouch, is your reading comprehension really that bad?

The only claim I’m making and the article very clearly backs it up is that Trump voters are not necessarily the forgotten man or working class. He has plenty support from wealthier Americans.

Back to school for you kiddo.

+1, count needs to think better, not his finest hour.

Okay, I'll grant you that we may have different definitions of "working class" and "forgotten man". Simply put, I disagree with defining "working class" as white, non-college, income less than $61k. But my opinion is that one could certainly be "forgotten" if they are a minority, a college grad, or make more than $61k. Anyway, here is the text in your article that I am referencing:

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Indeed, the group Carnes defines as “white working class” – white people without a college degree whose income is below the national median – accounted for only 1 in 4 Trump votes. The other 75 percent came from people who had a household income above the national median or had college degrees or were not white.

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Not my article, I didn’t share it.

You’re having a nightmare here.

Yes, I should have indicated that my response was directed at semsurrrrrrrrr, not CIro. My apologies. You are welcome to remain in the conversation about the article that semsurrrrrrrrr posted, but if you wish to do so, I respectfully ask that you read the article.