I believe Rob claims that the tracker is on his body most of the time. Except the time he left it in the van when it got stuck? And maybe one other time.
I believe Rob claims that the tracker is on his body most of the time. Except the time he left it in the van when it got stuck? And maybe one other time.
seikosha wrote:
I bet there are dozens if not hundreds of other webcams that RV passed by since this started. Too bad there's not a public repository of webcam video.
I believe the RV is on Rte 94. If anyone knows people who own businesses with webcams on that highway in that part of Missouri. Getting more videos are still possible.
doubler wrote:
This is just really odd to me..why it wouldn't raise any red flags..new runner takes off at blazing speed and isn't seen until after the 13.1 point, and is walking..
I don't get it either. Like if a guy can hold ~ 6:00 for 13 miles then has to jwalg the last half, he could probably hold ~ 6:30 for the whole thing instead and finish a lot faster. Weird to say the least.
noobrunner wrote:
One Q. Put to Bed wrote:In the van while they drove to get food
Chilling on the side of the road while the van went to get a look at the road ahead.
Juggling in a stripjoint
If he's in the van driving to get food then he's cheating, since the tracker data clearly showed that as supposedly being a legitimate 10mph stretch of running, not a break for food. The van isn't going fast enough to be "scoping out the road ahead either", as the tracking data clearly shows a steady 10mph pace through this entire section with no backtracking.
Err unless they stopped the actual running tracker during the van journey.
You are going off the SPOT tracking data which is being used for the website. This is not the GPS or individual tracker he says he is carrying.
You do realise a cross America run doesn't have to cover every single mile consecutively right? Its 2,766 miles from LA to NY - (Rob says he's aiming for 3000) - but you only have to run the miles for it to count while starting at point A and finishing at point B. You don't have to do it consecutively. They could get the van 20 miles down the road to their hotel and run from there if they wanted as long as the total adds up at the end.
Just an idea wrote:
seikosha wrote:I bet there are dozens if not hundreds of other webcams that RV passed by since this started. Too bad there's not a public repository of webcam video.
I believe the RV is on Rte 94. If anyone knows people who own businesses with webcams on that highway in that part of Missouri. Getting more videos are still possible.
It's pretty simple. You can file an FOIA request for the recordings for state or federal videos. Policecar cams, highway cams etc. Shouldn't be too hard to string them together.
One Q. Put to Bed wrote:
noobrunner wrote:If he's in the van driving to get food then he's cheating, since the tracker data clearly showed that as supposedly being a legitimate 10mph stretch of running, not a break for food. The van isn't going fast enough to be "scoping out the road ahead either", as the tracking data clearly shows a steady 10mph pace through this entire section with no backtracking.
Err unless they stopped the actual running tracker during the van journey.
You are going off the SPOT tracking data which is being used for the website. This is not the GPS or individual tracker he says he is carrying.
You do realise a cross America run doesn't have to cover every single mile consecutively right? Its 2,766 miles from LA to NY - (Rob says he's aiming for 3000) - but you only have to run the miles for it to count while starting at point A and finishing at point B. You don't have to do it consecutively. They could get the van 20 miles down the road to their hotel and run from there if they wanted as long as the total adds up at the end.
Hi Robert!
Hi L, are you sure he's not using a SPOT in combination with Open Tracking? Open Tracking indeed normally works with gprs trackers, but on occasions, when poor mobile reception is expected, they also work with SPOT trackers that they then display on their regular tracking site (I think the Cape Wrath Trail last week was with SPOT trackers).
By the way, the gprs tracker they use can store up to 3000 messages in case of no mobile reception (not that this is relevant here :) )
doubler wrote:
rosshm16 wrote:Were any RVs involved in this Race Across America thing?
Bryce Carlson wrote about Rob on his blog:
http://www.bryceacarlson.com/blog/rausa-early-reflections/Rob Young (http://www.marathonmanuk.com/), has also made a very quirky, vibrant, and talented addition to the group. Rob began Race Across USA 8 months into a world record attempt for number of marathons run in a single year. When we began a few days ago, he’d already completed somewhere around 270 marathons in 240 days!
If that weren’t impressive enough, his pacing strategy is absolutely stunning. He’s been starting each marathon at about 5-5:30/mile pace, gradually slowing over the first half marathon, and then jog/walking the second half. He’s been so fast to our 6.5 and 13.1 mile aid stations that race staff haven’t been able to get there and set them up in time. So he frequently blows through the early stations without support, and still manages to finish with a smile on his face. He is one of the most generous people I’ve ever met and I am really cherishing his company.
This is just really odd to me..why it wouldn't raise any red flags..new runner takes off at blazing speed and isn't seen until after the 13.1 point, and is walking..
It makes absolutely no sense at all. Since it's been determined that his 10k time is bogus, and his real marathon PR is 3:07, 5-5:30 mile pace is very, very fast for him. I'd be surprised if he could maintain that for one mile.
rojo wrote:
1) Since this thread started three days ago, how many miles has he run?
2) How many miles per day was he running before this thread was started?
3) How many miles did he run in the three days before this thread was started?
Off head real quick - since this thread's hit the fan, he's ran 96 miles in 2 days and today is complaining so I'm guessin it's another low mileage day too.
In the two weeks prior to this thread blowing up, he was averaging around 75 miles per day.
After this thread took off, from June 7 at 7am ET to June 9 10pm, he had run a total of 0 miles at under 8 minute mile pace, and a total of 1 mile AT 8 minute mile pace. The remainder were all 10+ minutes, mostly between 14-20minute miles.
Prior to this thread, he was pounding out between 20 to 40 miles per night at 6:00/mi pace.
noobrunner wrote:
rojo wrote:1) Since this thread started three days ago, how many miles has he run?
2) How many miles per day was he running before this thread was started?
3) How many miles did he run in the three days before this thread was started?
Off head real quick - since this thread's hit the fan, he's ran 96 miles in 2 days and today is complaining so I'm guessin it's another low mileage day too.
In the two weeks prior to this thread blowing up, he was averaging around 75 miles per day.
After this thread took off, from June 7 at 7am ET to June 9 10pm, he had run a total of 0 miles at under 8 minute mile pace, and a total of 1 mile AT 8 minute mile pace. The remainder were all 10+ minutes, mostly between 14-20minute miles.
Prior to this thread, he was pounding out between 20 to 40 miles per night at 6:00/mi pace.
the guy is a complete fraud
noobrunner wrote:
rojo wrote:1) Since this thread started three days ago, how many miles has he run?
2) How many miles per day was he running before this thread was started?
3) How many miles did he run in the three days before this thread was started?
Off head real quick - since this thread's hit the fan, he's ran 96 miles in 2 days and today is complaining so I'm guessin it's another low mileage day too.
In the two weeks prior to this thread blowing up, he was averaging around 75 miles per day.
After this thread took off, from June 7 at 7am ET to June 9 10pm, he had run a total of 0 miles at under 8 minute mile pace, and a total of 1 mile AT 8 minute mile pace. The remainder were all 10+ minutes, mostly between 14-20minute miles.
Prior to this thread, he was pounding out between 20 to 40 miles per night at 6:00/mi pace.
I was looking for an abstract of what's going on. You provided it.
curiously interested wrote:
There are definitely times that the tracker is NOT coming from the RV.
For the first 3 days the tracker was NOT in the van.
They supposedly left it in the van when the sand trap happened, on day 4.
The first 3 days he ran 80mi, 55mi, 32mi.
Day 4 he had run 30mi in 10 hours, and then the tracker went into the van and he magically ran 40 more miles in the next 4.5 to 6 hours.
Tracker has been in the van ever since.
One Q. Put to Bed wrote:
Part A) Unless Rob only takes the larger SPOT tracker on paths where he and the van are substantially separated - which would make sense to do for a small path of say 20 or 40 miles.
Part B) remind me of the times that you say are impossible?
Part A: except he didn't do this during the Mojave desert breakdown. He runs off through the desert with no tracker; it supposedly stays with the van on their drive from where they get towed to Laughlin.
Part B: this Mojave desert breakdown is one of the impossible times, referenced here:
http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/2016/05/21/day-3-5-a-pick-up-for-a-hiccup/He gets from Bannock, CA to Laughlin, NV, on his own, through the desert, in the middle of the day, in somewhere between 90 minutes and four hours. It's 40 miles.
Another series of impossible times are recorded on the first day, when the tracker is doing a weird loop around San Bernadino County. That data is now gone.
7K WORLD CHAMPION wrote:
moanswers wrote:LOL! this thread is killing my productivity today.
Mine too. It's like car crash, I can't look away.
This is my new favorite thread...
noobrunner wrote:
After this thread took off, from June 7 at 7am ET to June 9 10pm, he had run a total of 0 miles at under 8 minute mile pace, and a total of 1 mile AT 8 minute mile pace. The remainder were all 10+ minutes, mostly between 14-20minute miles.
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14 to 20 minute miles is walking pace
and...... BAM!! Circumstantial evidence, sure. But couldn't be more clear.
He likely won't make it through the coming weekend of 100-degee heat indexes. Laz and RayK can probably stay home.
Sprintwalker wrote:
It makes absolutely no sense at all. Since it's been determined that his 10k time is bogus, and his real marathon PR is 3:07, 5-5:30 mile pace is very, very fast for him. I'd be surprised if he could maintain that for one mile.
Assuming 3:07 is a true best-effort PR (not sure why someone would bother with flying to London to half-ass a marathon), a ~ 5:00 mile PR is right on my bullshit radar threshold for someone with a 3:07 marathon PR to claim.
So I guess it's feasible he could go balls-out for the first mile and gradually slow. I just don't get why anyone would actually do this as a general pacing strategy when running dozens of miles at a time.
One Q. Put to Bed wrote:
You do realise a cross America run doesn't have to cover every single mile consecutively right? Its 2,766 miles from LA to NY - (Rob says he's aiming for 3000) - but you only have to run the miles for it to count while starting at point A and finishing at point B. You don't have to do it consecutively. They could get the van 20 miles down the road to their hotel and run from there if they wanted as long as the total adds up at the end.
This statement astonishes me. This right here is why he feels it is completely OK to sit in the van.
It is NOT a trans continental run if you do not have your feet on the ground for every foot of the crossing. This is not a race (or record) for going from the west coast of America to the east coast of America and traveling at least 2,776 miles. No, it is a Trans Continental crossing. Every foot of the continent has to be touched by his feet during the crossing. If he misses a half mile he would have to go back and do that half mile then continue from there. You can't just drive around when ever you want and then at the end show you ran over 2,776 miles so you now have the record.
Rob's Not Here, Man wrote:
noobrunner wrote:After this thread took off, from June 7 at 7am ET to June 9 10pm, he had run a total of 0 miles at under 8 minute mile pace, and a total of 1 mile AT 8 minute mile pace. The remainder were all 10+ minutes, mostly between 14-20minute miles.
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14 to 20 minute miles is walking pace
You don't have to run all the way. Bruce Tulloh didn't when he broke the record, walked quite a bit.
Do they have multiple RVs or did they switch RVs at some point during the race? The RV in the video is not the same RV in his latest blog posts on facebook.