Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Michael Goodwin is just a big of an idiot as our man rigged

Not enough detail for me. Can we break it all down a little bit?

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5/16 stats

Based on 7 day rolling average of daily deaths

Globally the sixth straight day of improvement

In the US: 10th straight day of improvement

Only change in the 'standings' is FL going in the better direction, to 28th worst state, from 27th worst.

realist1 wrote:

You lefties sound like a bunch of menapausel Women mad at life/reality...lol

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Tiny has done nothing to protect nursing homes. That doesn't sit well with the silver set.

Cuomo is to blame.

Tiny is the president of all the states. Nationwide, he has done nothing to protect nursing homes. Seniors in states like Florida know this and they will hold the president responsible in November.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

agip wrote:

true, but the fact is that if you don't live in NY NJ CT MA MI LA then your experience with the virus has been very different than those folks. It's just a fact.

Same in Italy - if you don't live in the bad areas, the virus has had much less of an impact on you.

8 million people in NYC were savaged...12 million people in Oregon and TN...not so much. I don't think we disagree...we're just talking across each other.

cheers on the other part.

It’s time to fully open up the USA. And it’s past time for Faucidamus to apologize for his failed models and ludicrous predictions that never came true.

Trump said that we would only lose 60,000 by August. But he was too dumb to realize that those models assumed we would not open up. But we did. Trump encouraged everyone to open too soon.

We will hit 100,000 dead Americans very soon. And it's all Trumps fault.

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Tiny has done nothing to protect nursing homes. That doesn't sit well with the silver set.

The R line appears to be 'let the old people die, they are weak.'

That won't play well in FL.

Seniors will know that Trump gutted nursing home regulations. This included regulations about infection control. That's why so many people in nursing homes have died.

Trump killed your grandmother. Trump killed your grandfather. This will be remembered on election day.

A few Trumpers here have made the argument that the governors are the ones responsible for bad numbers in states like New York. They are trying to shift the blame away from our incompetent president.

This is obviously wrong. There are two things that apparently have a large macro-effect on the numbers:

1) Population Density

2) When the outbreak started ramping up in a particular state.

Compare the top ten states in population density with the top ten states with highest deaths per capita:

Density: Deaths per capita

New Jersey: New York

Rhode Island: New Jersey

Massachusetts: Connecticut

Connecticut: Massachusetts

Maryland: Louisiana

Delaware #11: Michigan

New York: Rhode Island

Florida #23: Pennsylvania

Pennsylvania: Illinois

Ohio #12: Maryland

Notice that seven states appear in both lists! And two of the states, Delaware and Ohio, just barely missed the top ten. They rank #11 and #12 respectively in per capita deaths.

The only outlier is Florida, which is #8 in population density and #23 in deaths per capita. Does that mean that Florida has done a better job? That's possible, but doubtful. The virus took hold a little later in Florida. And unlike many states on the list, Florida's cases and deaths have not started to level off. So the future will tell the tale.

We won't really know which states did the best job until probably this time next year. But it's clear that so far, population density dictates the spread a lot more than the governor.

We also know that a strong national response makes a huge difference. Other nations beat the virus. America has not. America is weak and pathetic. The blame for that belongs on our weak and pathetic president.

Dude, he's the commander in Chief, he can fire anyone he wants..lol

Unlike democrats he gets rid of the incompetants...

Obama wouldn't fire anyone because he didn't want to hurt their feelings.

Fat hurts wrote:

Trump killed your grandmother. Trump killed your grandfather. This will be remembered on election day.

IMO it won't be remembered enough to make a difference. And that doesn't even take into account the fact that most 50ish Trump voters don't have grandparents anymore.

Opinions pro- or anti-Trump are almost completely solidified. The figure I saw the other day was 95%. So the only *real* question is, which voters will go to the polls?

Indications are that nearly all Trumpers/GOPers will vote: They have a very good idea of what's at stake and how much they have to lose. The Dems are not showing (again, according to recent figures) the same determination to vote. The Democratic Party *must* generate voting enthusiasm in battleground states. For just one example, will they post a million-plus blue-for-Biden lawn signs this time? Or will they once again abandon the suburban greensward to Trump?

The irony is that the current (loosening) lockdown favors Trump enormously. He's on television every day, every channel; Biden is mostly absent. Opening things up will just dilute DJT's advantage. And this is why I agree that it would be foolish for the President to debate Joe Biden (not that they're actual debates): It would just give Joe air time and exposure. I think Trump would be well advised to beg off from debating. He can always say that he's too busy guiding the country through its fiscal/medical crisis.

realist1 wrote:

Unlike [D]emocrats he gets rid of the incompet[e]nts...

I guess this could explain why he's fired so many people: He hired incompetent (but loyal!) folks to begin with.

Biden is locked in his basement while his handlers frantically try to prep him but it's a lost cause, his mental faculties are gone, he's a shell of his former self. So ironic how this is all playing out.

Wrong.

P told us that population density didn’t matter.

Rural places and urban places would be hit at the same rate.

liesliesliesyeah wrote:

realist1 wrote:

You lefties sound like a bunch of menapausel Women mad at life/reality...lol

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/16/trump-obama-obsession-coronavirus-president

His obsession is partly rooted in racism but mostly due to the fact that Obama commands respect and he commands none of that. There is simply no comparison and trump is well aware and it eats him alive. He’s tweeted and made statements about Obama thousands of times since winning, a sign of a disturbed individual who can’t get over it.

And now all the stinkin liberals are gonna move to the rural areas and probably ruin my country hideaway...

agip wrote:

5/16 stats

Based on 7 day rolling average of daily deaths

Globally the sixth straight day of improvement

In the US: 10th straight day of improvement

Only change in the 'standings' is FL going in the better direction, to 28th worst state, from 27th worst.

For FL, do you mean in terms of new cases?

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

It’s time to fully open up the USA. And it’s past time for Faucidamus to apologize for his failed models and ludicrous predictions that never came true.

Trump said that we would only lose 60,000 by August. But he was too dumb to realize that those models assumed we would not open up. But we did. Trump encouraged everyone to open too soon.

We will hit 100,000 dead Americans very soon. And it's all Trumps fault.

Since it is a "big" number, my guess is that the WH and Trump will come up with yet another diversion tactic provided on the same day the US goes over 100,000 which will likely be mid to end of this upcoming week.

I don't think that's exactly what P was saying, but I'll leave it to him to respond.

And I'm not saying that population density is the only thing that matters. There are many factors. What I'm saying is that on a macro level, there appears to be a strong correlation between a state's population density and deaths per capita. The density let the virus spread faster.

But as I also said, the other factor is time. Without strong mitigation strategies, sparsely populated states will eventually see large outbreaks as well. This is exactly what is happening now. Sparse states that have pockets of high density are spreading the virus. The pockets tend to be nursing homes, prisons, and meat packing plants. But with massive reopening the high-density pockets might also be places like church services and movie theaters.

Our president is encouraging the reckless reopening. Trump told us about "American carnage". Now we have real carnage and Trump is the cause.