itsa#sgame wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
This, if true, is very damaging to Trump. That his administration was working closely with WHO in real time throughout the crisis is far from the picture he would have us believe. Why is it only an opinion article and why isn't it being more widely disseminated and talked about?
Because we're on to the next lie.
Good answer.
So yesterday I caught a bit of Tiny's news conference and he was bragging about our low death rate. He even got the statistic sort of right when he said it was death rate per population. He said:
On a per capita basis, our mortality rate is far lower than other nations of Western Europe, with the lone exception of possibly Germany.
Of course, we know this is a statistic he won't be able to brag about for very long if our infection rate is high. The reason for our lower death rate at the moment is because our outbreaks started later than in most major countries.
So I took a quick stab to try to see if I could tell what will happen. Here are the major nations with a worse death rate than ours (deaths/1M population):
Ireland
Sweden
Switzerland
Netherlands
UK
France
Italy
Spain
Belgium
Notice that they are all in Europe where things started getting bad a few weeks before the US.
Now lets look at the major nations with a worse infection rate than ours (infections/1M population):
France
Italy
Ireland
Switzerland
Belgium
Spain
The UK, Netherlands, and Sweden are now gone from the list. Our death rate will at least surpass those three because more infections means more deaths.
Will our infection rate catch up with those six that are left? If it does, our death rate will follow. It looks like our death rate will end up worse than any major nation except maybe Spain, Belgium, and Switzerland.
Should we feel good about the American response when we are worse than all but a handful of countries?
Fat hurts wrote:
So yesterday I caught a bit of Tiny's news conference and he was bragging about our low death rate. He even got the statistic sort of right when he said it was death rate per population. He said:
On a per capita basis, our mortality rate is far lower than other nations of Western Europe, with the lone exception of possibly Germany.
Of course, we know this is a statistic he won't be able to brag about for very long if our infection rate is high. The reason for our lower death rate at the moment is because our outbreaks started later than in most major countries.
So I took a quick stab to try to see if I could tell what will happen. Here are the major nations with a worse death rate than ours (deaths/1M population):
Ireland
Sweden
Switzerland
Netherlands
UK
France
Italy
Spain
Belgium
Notice that they are all in Europe where things started getting bad a few weeks before the US.
Now lets look at the major nations with a worse infection rate than ours (infections/1M population):
France
Italy
Ireland
Switzerland
Belgium
Spain
The UK, Netherlands, and Sweden are now gone from the list. Our death rate will at least surpass those three because more infections means more deaths.
Will our infection rate catch up with those six that are left? If it does, our death rate will follow. It looks like our death rate will end up worse than any major nation except maybe Spain, Belgium, and Switzerland.
Should we feel good about the American response when we are worse than all but a handful of countries?
America overall did a damnn good job. It was the Democrat states like NY, NJ, and other liberal states which dropped the ball. If I am a governor of a state, I am sure as hell not waiting on the federal government to bail me out. I am making the masks, I am making the ventilators and I am doing everything else necessary to combat the pandemic. I am sure as heck not waiting on the federal government and and I am sure as heck not whining about it after-the-fact when it was I, the governor, who dropped the ball Cuomo was told years ago he would need 15,000 ventilators. He did nothing. He effed up. Trump did not eff up the nY response. It was the whining gov Cuomo.
Ciro wrote:
A family of crooks.
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-secret-payments-sons-wife-girlfriend-222000268.html
So let me get this straight. Ciro, you FAt Hurts, Troll, Seattle, and everyone of you Libs have been on here for 4 years saying how bad the big Bad Meanie Donald Trump is and has continued to be. You all have made 10s of thousands of posts describing how TERRIBLE the Meanie Trump is. He is a very, very very bad person. You have been saying this garbage for 4 years. He is STILL WORKING IN THE OVAL OFFICE and all you Liberal Losers are still here on LetsRun still bellyaching how bad Trump is. Beyond pathetic.
For 4 years you have been bemoaning how bad the Terrible Donald Trump is. He is still the most powerful person in history and you are on an internet site whining how he is so bad. Laughable. Just laughable.
Just sharing an article, didn’t mean to trigger you Sally.
Please don’t take it out on your Chinese wife.
Sally Vix wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So yesterday I caught a bit of Tiny's news conference and he was bragging about our low death rate. He even got the statistic sort of right when he said it was death rate per population. He said:
Of course, we know this is a statistic he won't be able to brag about for very long if our infection rate is high. The reason for our lower death rate at the moment is because our outbreaks started later than in most major countries.
So I took a quick stab to try to see if I could tell what will happen. Here are the major nations with a worse death rate than ours (deaths/1M population):
Ireland
Sweden
Switzerland
Netherlands
UK
France
Italy
Spain
Belgium
Notice that they are all in Europe where things started getting bad a few weeks before the US.
Now lets look at the major nations with a worse infection rate than ours (infections/1M population):
France
Italy
Ireland
Switzerland
Belgium
Spain
The UK, Netherlands, and Sweden are now gone from the list. Our death rate will at least surpass those three because more infections means more deaths.
Will our infection rate catch up with those six that are left? If it does, our death rate will follow. It looks like our death rate will end up worse than any major nation except maybe Spain, Belgium, and Switzerland.
Should we feel good about the American response when we are worse than all but a handful of countries?
America overall did a damnn good job. It was the Democrat states like NY, NJ, and other liberal states which dropped the ball. If I am a governor of a state, I am sure as hell not waiting on the federal government to bail me out. I am making the masks, I am making the ventilators and I am doing everything else necessary to combat the pandemic. I am sure as heck not waiting on the federal government and and I am sure as heck not whining about it after-the-fact when it was I, the governor, who dropped the ball Cuomo was told years ago he would need 15,000 ventilators. He did nothing. He effed up. Trump did not eff up the nY response. It was the whining gov Cuomo.
Have you seen how badly the current administration has botched testing, and even the ones currently being done now? What a waste. That is a central function under White House leadership and headed up by the Food and Drug Administration. It's a national disgrace with high costs in terms of life and our ability to get back to normal.
We have been short changed by Trump and his lack of leadership.
Ciro wrote:
Just sharing an article, didn’t mean to trigger you Sally.
Please don’t take it out on your Chinese wife.
Give me a break, Ciro - I adore my wife. Don't you consider the fact that you have been trashing Trump here for 4 years without any results is worthless? Have you not wasted 4 years of your life? Seriously, Trump works out of the Oval Office and your "office" is the internet. Pretty pathetic. LOL.
seattle prattle wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
America overall did a damnn good job. It was the Democrat states like NY, NJ, and other liberal states which dropped the ball. If I am a governor of a state, I am sure as hell not waiting on the federal government to bail me out. I am making the masks, I am making the ventilators and I am doing everything else necessary to combat the pandemic. I am sure as heck not waiting on the federal government and and I am sure as heck not whining about it after-the-fact when it was I, the governor, who dropped the ball Cuomo was told years ago he would need 15,000 ventilators. He did nothing. He effed up. Trump did not eff up the nY response. It was the whining gov Cuomo.
Have you seen how badly the current administration has botched testing, and even the ones currently being done now? What a waste. That is a central function under White House leadership and headed up by the Food and Drug Administration. It's a national disgrace with high costs in terms of life and our ability to get back to normal.
We have been short changed by Trump and his lack of leadership.
Obama inherited 150 million masks from the Bush admin. All were used during 2009 flu. He never replenished them. Trump should have done also. But why is Cuomo crying about no ventilators when his own IG told him 15,000 were needed? Why the heck is he bellyaching now when he screwed up?
Sally Vix wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Just sharing an article, didn’t mean to trigger you Sally.
Please don’t take it out on your Chinese wife.
Give me a break, Ciro - I adore my wife. Don't you consider the fact that you have been trashing Trump here for 4 years without any results is worthless? Have you not wasted 4 years of your life? Seriously, Trump works out of the Oval Office and your "office" is the internet. Pretty pathetic. LOL.
For what it is worth I wouldn’t trade positions with Trump in a million years. He’s a politician, this is the internet, we are allowed to criticize. Maybe the issue is your rying and bitching about it.
I’m a lot younger, a lot healthier and I’d guess a lot happier also. I also don’t wear make up and fake tan so that’s good.
Sally Vix wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
Have you seen how badly the current administration has botched testing, and even the ones currently being done now? What a waste. That is a central function under White House leadership and headed up by the Food and Drug Administration. It's a national disgrace with high costs in terms of life and our ability to get back to normal.
We have been short changed by Trump and his lack of leadership.
Obama inherited 150 million masks from the Bush admin. All were used during 2009 flu. He never replenished them. Trump should have done also. But why is Cuomo crying about no ventilators when his own IG told him 15,000 were needed? Why the heck is he bellyaching now when he screwed up?
We are talking about TESTING. Try to keep up. I know you have your hands full trying to defend the indefensible. One can plainly see the toll it is taking on your marriage.
Please take care of yourself.
crying*
seattle prattle wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Obama inherited 150 million masks from the Bush admin. All were used during 2009 flu. He never replenished them. Trump should have done also. But why is Cuomo crying about no ventilators when his own IG told him 15,000 were needed? Why the heck is he bellyaching now when he screwed up?
We are talking about TESTING. Try to keep up. I know you have your hands full trying to defend the indefensible. One can plainly see the toll it is taking on your marriage.
Please take care of yourself.
You guys seem to be pretty good people. And also smart. But it seems you are consumed with your hate with Trump. Again, I like you guys but don't let your hatred of Trump consume you. It just wipes you out.
Ciro wrote:
A family of crooks.
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-secret-payments-sons-wife-girlfriend-222000268.html
In other words, there are "Hunter Bidens" on the other side as well?
Sally Vix wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
We are talking about TESTING. Try to keep up. I know you have your hands full trying to defend the indefensible. One can plainly see the toll it is taking on your marriage.
Please take care of yourself.
You guys seem to be pretty good people. And also smart. But it seems you are consumed with your hate with Trump. Again, I like you guys but don't let your hatred of Trump consume you. It just wipes you out.
no it doesn't.
Look at the right wing's 40 year hatred of hillary rodham clinton. It brought the party together, gave party members an enemy so vivid that they voted in an obvious con man because hey anything was better than Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Benghazi!
Drain the Swamp. wrote:
Ciro wrote:
A family of crooks.
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-secret-payments-sons-wife-girlfriend-222000268.htmlIn other words, there are "Hunter Bidens" on the other side as well?
hunter biden never got a dollar of government or campaign money as far as I can tell.
Unless you are counting his pay as an officer in the Naval Reserves.
&^&*(!
we'll never get out of this if we can't get the science right.
We have to science the sh/t out of this and we keep failing.
Maybe someone can call Germany and get some tips.
we don't have a good serology test yet.
agip wrote:
Drain the Swamp. wrote:
In other words, there are "Hunter Bidens" on the other side as well?
hunter biden never got a dollar of government or campaign money as far as I can tell.
Unless you are counting his pay as an officer in the Naval Reserves.
Exactly.
Drain the Swamp. wrote:
Ciro wrote:
A family of crooks.
yahoo com trump-secret-payments-sons-wife-girlfriend-222000268.html
In other words, there are "Hunter Bidens" on the other side as well?
???? You make no sense at all. It seems the wife and girlfriend are being paid by taxpayers to spread their legs for Trump's boys.