You did not vote for Trump. You don't sound smart enough.
Can't stand it anymore wrote:
I voted for Trump and everyday something comes up that makes me realize what a terrible mistake I made.
If I knew the Republicans would control both houses, I would have definitely voted for Clinton.
I am ashamed of my choice. This guy is whacko and all of his choices are nuts.
Scaramucci!?
foo wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:So back to my "Trump is a terrible businessman" thesis.
The most basic skill of any manager is to be able to hire the right person for the job. Trump obviously lacks that skill. You really need to look no further than the fact that Trump hired a foreign agent as our National Security Advisor.
But there have been so many other firings and resignations. And it's only been six months.
I'm not convinced Trump is a bad businessman. You can be a businessman and not have to manage anyone or run a substantial organization. Trump is definitely a good salesman, which is part of being a good businessman. He sold the American public the notion that he would be a good POTUS. Trump did increase his personal wealth at a slightly lower rate than the S&P 500 return, so he's perhaps a mediocre businessman, but nothing special.
On the other hand, I am quite convinced that he is a terrible manager. Look at how he deals with conflict management. He hides by tweeting and bullying his employees. Rather than owning up to his poor decisions, he blames others. He makes rash decisions and doesn't seem to keep his team informed. Instead of hiring talented and experienced individuals, he puts in place family and friends with absolutely no experience. Read any book on management and you will realize this is a disaster waiting to happen.
Read Wayne Barrett's 1992 biography of Trump, when he very nearly lost everything. You're correct about the salesman part to an extent but it was also a matter of being "inside" enough politics / finance that he would be granted many indulgences... That's not "dumb" on his part but ALL of his immense character and intellectual flaws were also present then and any reasonable observer would say they've only gotten worse.
That by far most media jerkoffs of whatever persuasion didn't read this either before or after the election only reflects their own stupidity. At the time, btw, the book largely flopped-- people thought eh, Trump, what a clown, and what an ass; he's done. The NYT didn't even review it though that was partly jealousy, partly covering up their own real estate hi-jinx.
https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Deals-Downfall-Wayne-Barrett/dp/0060167041foo wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:So back to my "Trump is a terrible businessman" thesis.
The most basic skill of any manager is to be able to hire the right person for the job. Trump obviously lacks that skill. You really need to look no further than the fact that Trump hired a foreign agent as our National Security Advisor.
But there have been so many other firings and resignations. And it's only been six months.
I'm not convinced Trump is a bad businessman. You can be a businessman and not have to manage anyone or run a substantial organization. Trump is definitely a good salesman, which is part of being a good businessman. He sold the American public the notion that he would be a good POTUS. Trump did increase his personal wealth at a slightly lower rate than the S&P 500 return, so he's perhaps a mediocre businessman, but nothing special.
On the other hand, I am quite convinced that he is a terrible manager. Look at how he deals with conflict management. He hides by tweeting and bullying his employees. Rather than owning up to his poor decisions, he blames others. He makes rash decisions and doesn't seem to keep his team informed. Instead of hiring talented and experienced individuals, he puts in place family and friends with absolutely no experience. Read any book on management and you will realize this is a disaster waiting to happen.
I agree with you, foo. He's got the sales part down pat. Great salesman.
Perhaps "businessman" is too broad a term for this. You make a valid point.
But I'll keep saying "businessman". That's what everyone said was his major qualification to be president. Though good at sales, as an all-around businessman, he stinks.
I am smart enough to know I made a mistake. It will take you probably 6 more months before you admit your mistake.This guy is a huge disappointment. I honestly thought he might be better than a regular politician. He's worse.
itsbaddude wrote:
You did not vote for Trump. You don't sound smart enough.
Can't stand it anymore wrote:I voted for Trump and everyday something comes up that makes me realize what a terrible mistake I made.
If I knew the Republicans would control both houses, I would have definitely voted for Clinton.
I am ashamed of my choice. This guy is whacko and all of his choices are nuts.
Scaramucci!?
Conundrum wrote:
Does Rence Priebus stand a chance against Scaramucci?
Priebus is like a little lamb waiting for slaughter. Of course Scaramucci will do his trump dirty work and will soon be gone.
He can out trump trump. Much smarter than Trump but even more of a loose cannon. He is even gunning for Bannon.
Great theater.
It happened faster than I thought. Sacramucci himself will disappear in 3months.
Conundrum wrote:
Conundrum wrote:Does Rence Priebus stand a chance against Scaramucci?
Priebus is like a little lamb waiting for slaughter. Of course Scaramucci will do his trump dirty work and will soon be gone.
He can out trump trump. Much smarter than Trump but even more of a loose cannon. He is even gunning for Bannon.
Great theater.
It happened faster than I thought. Sacramucci himself will disappear in 3months.
This guy is really having a bad week (possibly even worse than Trump's):
http://pagesix.com/2017/07/28/anthony-scaramuccis-wife-files-for-divorce/Conundrum wrote:
Conundrum wrote:Does Rence Priebus stand a chance against Scaramucci?
Priebus is like a little lamb waiting for slaughter. Of course Scaramucci will do his trump dirty work and will soon be gone.
He can out trump trump. Much smarter than Trump but even more of a loose cannon. He is even gunning for Bannon.
Great theater.
It happened faster than I thought. Sacramucci himself will disappear in 3months.
Mooch is there only to divert while heads are chopped. Mooch will get the axe. Trump will install Ivanka as his Chief of Staff.
foo wrote:
Conundrum wrote:It happened faster than I thought. Sacramucci himself will disappear in 3months.
This guy is really having a bad week (possibly even worse than Trump's):
http://pagesix.com/2017/07/28/anthony-scaramuccis-wife-files-for-divorce/
Expect more bad weeks. There are intentional, and intended to draw attention away from Trump.
No, you're not that smart, trust me. Sooner than later, things will be fine, much better than your embarrassing admission of wishing you had voted for Clinton...Corrupt Liar. Oh sorry, she didn't win, so we can't talk about her as the Libs set the rules here, ha ha!
Can't stand it anymore wrote:
I am smart enough to know I made a mistake. It will take you probably 6 more months before you admit your mistake.
This guy is a huge disappointment. I honestly thought he might be better than a regular politician. He's worse.
itsbaddude wrote:You did not vote for Trump. You don't sound smart enough.
Then move to another country wrote:
No, you're not that smart, trust me. Sooner than later, things will be fine, much better than your embarrassing admission of wishing you had voted for Clinton...Corrupt Liar. Oh sorry, she didn't win, so we can't talk about her as the Libs set the rules here, ha ha!
Can't stand it anymore wrote:I am smart enough to know I made a mistake. It will take you probably 6 more months before you admit your mistake.
This guy is a huge disappointment. I honestly thought he might be better than a regular politician. He's worse.
0/10
Come on, dude! Try for funny. Or insightful. Or provocative. Even outrageous.
Because recently you've been nothing but BORING.
itsbaddude wrote:
You did not vote for Trump. You don't sound dumb enough.
Can't stand it anymore wrote:I voted for Trump and everyday something comes up that makes me realize what a terrible mistake I made.
If I knew the Republicans would control both houses, I would have definitely voted for Clinton.
I am ashamed of my choice. This guy is whacko and all of his choices are nuts.
Scaramucci!?
+1
TroLLminator wrote:
itsbaddude wrote:You did not vote for Trump. You don't sound dumb enough.
Folks seem to be underestimating The Mooch.
Here's the play.
1) Establish that you can erase White House senior staff - check
2) Erase very senior staff (Priebus) - check
3) Begin erasing bigger fish (Bannon) - check
4) Finally, erase second biggest fish (Pence) - To do
5) Get named VP - Just Watch
6) Help get Donald impeached - Won't be that hard by that point
7) Guess who is now POTUS
You don't think that this is what The Mooch is after? Don't be so naive.
The Moooooch! wrote:
Folks seem to be underestimating The Mooch.
Here's the play.
1) Establish that you can erase White House senior staff - check
2) Erase very senior staff (Priebus) - check
3) Begin erasing bigger fish (Bannon) - check
4) Finally, erase second biggest fish (Pence) - To do
5) Get named VP - Just Watch
6) Help get Donald impeached - Won't be that hard by that point
7) Guess who is now POTUS
You don't think that this is what The Mooch is after? Don't be so naive.
These games are fun to play.
How does Pence get erased? You do know that the president can't fire the VP, right? He would need to be impeached.
How does The Mooch get approved by congress as VP? Did you know that a new VP has to be confirmed? Donald can't just name a new VP by himself.
Fat hurts wrote:
The Moooooch! wrote:Folks seem to be underestimating The Mooch.
Here's the play.
1) Establish that you can erase White House senior staff - check
2) Erase very senior staff (Priebus) - check
3) Begin erasing bigger fish (Bannon) - check
4) Finally, erase second biggest fish (Pence) - To do
5) Get named VP - Just Watch
6) Help get Donald impeached - Won't be that hard by that point
7) Guess who is now POTUS
You don't think that this is what The Mooch is after? Don't be so naive.
These games are fun to play.
How does Pence get erased? You do know that the president can't fire the VP, right? He would need to be impeached.
How does The Mooch get approved by congress as VP? Did you know that a new VP has to be confirmed? Donald can't just name a new VP by himself.
Trump gets Pootie to apply his usual Russian opponent eraser.
No I am not smart at all. But you really don't need to be too smart to see a total disaster. There has been very little that's any good. The supreme court justice appointment was good but a monkey could have gotten that approved.Trump is not only bad but a number of his appointments are bad. I wish a Republican would have won the presidency. When he gets impeached we will get a Republican.
Then move to another country wrote:
No, you're not that smart, trust me. Sooner than later, things will be fine, much better than your embarrassing admission of wishing you had voted for Clinton...Corrupt Liar. Oh sorry, she didn't win, so we can't talk about her as the Libs set the rules here, ha ha!
Can't stand it anymore wrote:I am smart enough to know I made a mistake. It will take you probably 6 more months before you admit your mistake.
This guy is a huge disappointment. I honestly thought he might be better than a regular politician. He's worse.
foo wrote:
Conundrum wrote:It happened faster than I thought. Sacramucci himself will disappear in 3months.
This guy is really having a bad week (possibly even worse than Trump's):
http://pagesix.com/2017/07/28/anthony-scaramuccis-wife-files-for-divorce/
Apparently, based on his first press conference, it sounded like he was in love with someone else.
Trump was totally humiliated by congress voting sanctions on Russian even though he was dead set against them. He has to sign the measure. I bet there will be no media there when he signs it!
So much winning!
President Donald Trump plans to sign a Congressional law restricting his ability to lift sanctions on Russia, the White House said Friday night, in a severe blow to his budding relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Confronted by a united Congress and suspicions about his intentions towards the Russian leader, Trump had little choice but to sign the measure, whose passage the White House had opposed.
“It would have been foolhardy for the Trump administration to veto this bill,†said Edward Fishman, a former Obama State Department official who worked on Russia sanctions policy. “Congress would have overriden the veto, and all it will do is fuel the fire of the Russia scandal in Washington.â€
The White House statement sought to save face from a resounding political setback, arguing that Trump had negotiated changes to early drafts of the bill and, "based on its responsiveness to his negotiations, approves the bill and intends to sign it."
Even though Trumpkins don't care, the reality is Trump already has decreasing influence on the GOP and that will only deteriorate further. That means he really gets nothing done which means no Trump in 2020. His current trajectory isn't looking good and I believe he actually hates this job more than anything else and won't want to come back.
total humiliation wrote:
Trump was totally humiliated by congress voting sanctions on Russian even though he was dead set against them. He has to sign the measure. I bet there will be no media there when he signs it!
So much winning!
President Donald Trump plans to sign a Congressional law restricting his ability to lift sanctions on Russia, the White House said Friday night, in a severe blow to his budding relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Confronted by a united Congress and suspicions about his intentions towards the Russian leader, Trump had little choice but to sign the measure, whose passage the White House had opposed.
“It would have been foolhardy for the Trump administration to veto this bill,†said Edward Fishman, a former Obama State Department official who worked on Russia sanctions policy. “Congress would have overriden the veto, and all it will do is fuel the fire of the Russia scandal in Washington.â€
The White House statement sought to save face from a resounding political setback, arguing that Trump had negotiated changes to early drafts of the bill and, "based on its responsiveness to his negotiations, approves the bill and intends to sign it."
Then move to another country wrote:
No, you're not that smart, trust me. Sooner than later, things will be fine, much better than your embarrassing admission of wishing you had voted for Clinton...Corrupt Liar. Oh sorry, she didn't win, so we can't talk about her as the Libs set the rules here, ha ha![quote]Can't stand it anymore wrote:
Yes, Trump has never told a lie. The sources of financing for his projects back when things were being built were all perfectly legitimate.
Clinton was a terrible candidate, there's no doubt about that. But, the Right's handling of facts and policy just isn't that far off from the Left, unless you are living a fantasy like Pence and Ryan and their kind.