The Trials and Tribulations of Running YouTubers

ShoeTubersHaveNoEthics · 2023-02-10T08:28:06-05:00

Given the Seth DeMoor thread is so popular, I thought maybe it'd be a good idea to start a thread about the other big running YouTubers and their trials and tribulations. Nick Symmonds: Not sure I'd call him a running YouTuber anymore, but his creatine-fueled quest to dead lift 500 pounds into a sub 5 mile appears to have hit a snag, as there have been no uploads after he ran a 5:30. Maybe carrying around all that Bison muscle makes it hard to run. Ben Felton: Hasn't posted on a week, last seen discerning the Asics Gel Nimbus and telling us a running shoe that's been around for 25 versions is worth $200, and running around in Nike Invincibles with Paula Radcliffe. Ben Parkes: Had an epic blow up on the beach Parkrun in the UK and ran 21:20 after being slowed down by all that sand. Matt Fox: in what should frustrate Seth DeMoor and perhaps establish a new rivalry, Matt partnered with Soar Running to make a Sweat Elite singlet, which you too can have for $79. Not only did Matt steal Seth's bobos, he undercut Seth on the price. Lol. Kofuzi: Bought a bunch of cheap shoes on Amazon and filmed himself running in them. Injury incoming after he ran in the Tiamou? Video was useful warning about possibly getting fakes from 3rd party sellers. Harry Morgan: crediting a longer warm up for breaking 19 in a parkrun. Run Like Heller: having difficulty opening a wood box from Saucony with a hammer. Phily Bowden: Running around Flagstaff in the snow and preparing for a late spring marathon. Who needs reality TV or to pay for cable when you have all this drama to stare at while munching on popcorn!

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5 months ago 12/30/2025 11:18am EST

re: Elliotb16

Elliotb16 wrote:
Griff Duncan WILL prove the haters wrong this time. Despite ~~injury~~ injuries, he has been cross training his ass off. His goal is to run under 2:50 and qualify for Boston but I believe he’s going well under that.

Well Grift is running the Mesa marathon which has damn near the maximum elevation loss possible without incurring a 5 minute time penalty for Boston qualification. I think he stands a chance to dip under 3 hours if he keeps his current training up without injury. If he does, look forward to endless posts about how he went sub 3 and earned his BQ with zero mention of the assistance from gravity.

But 2:50? Not a chance in hell. Maybe on one of those 5,000 foot drop courses.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 11:34am EST

re: Whiny.Kelati

Not to sound like a stalker, but J Mills of Crown My Run is looking suspiciously close to training via NSM based on his recent strava runs. Will it be enough to hold back the W Mills-shaped tsunami coming after his PBs in 2026?

5 months ago 12/30/2025 11:56am EST

re: Eliud Bekele

Eliud Bekele wrote:
Not to sound like a stalker, but J Mills of Crown My Run is looking suspiciously close to training via NSM based on his recent strava runs. Will it be enough to hold back the W Mills-shaped tsunami coming after his PBs in 2026?

I'm convinced one of the Mills' are posting these things. It's giving off strong Donato (and I still have no idea who he is) vibes.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 12:49pm EST

re: stopspreadingfakenews

stopspreadingfakenews wrote:
Eliud Bekele wrote:
Not to sound like a stalker, but J Mills of Crown My Run is looking suspiciously close to training via NSM based on his recent strava runs. Will it be enough to hold back the W Mills-shaped tsunami coming after his PBs in 2026?
I'm convinced one of the Mills' are posting these things. It's giving off strong Donato (and I still have no idea who he is) vibes.

Anyone here him say on his last video something along the lines of "you've got to get PB's when you can, as you're one injury away from being a miserable old b*stard chatting about runners on lets run" - it made me chuckle

5 months ago 12/30/2025 12:51pm EST

re: Whiny.Kelati

Whiny.Kelati wrote:
Nothingface wrote:
If you’re confused as to who is out there unironically enjoying Floberg and Felton content, head out to your local social run/coffee shop spot and look for all the guys who look exactly like Floberg and Felton.
I went to a run club recently and there was a guy wearing a "Go One More" hat. I couldn't believe it. I don't speak to people like that. They exist in the real world and it's always shocking when you meet one.

The hat is usually paired with bandit gear and Vaporflys/Alphaflys.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 1:29pm EST

re: stopspreadingfakenews

stopspreadingfakenews wrote:
Eliud Bekele wrote:
Not to sound like a stalker, but J Mills of Crown My Run is looking suspiciously close to training via NSM based on his recent strava runs. Will it be enough to hold back the W Mills-shaped tsunami coming after his PBs in 2026?
I'm convinced one of the Mills' are posting these things. It's giving off strong Donato (and I still have no idea who he is) vibes.

Right, that’s it. I’m finally caving and actually watching a video by this Donato so many people seem to keep banging on about

5 months ago 12/30/2025 1:43pm EST

re: asldkfjas

asldkfjas wrote:
Juicy, juicy wrote:
Cole Gibbens now reviewing shoes (which have been sent to him) - desperate move by someone who realises he won't stay relevant through his running achievements now he's peaked and is on the way down
wtf is wrong with him doing this?
this is the kind of b* tchy nonsense I hate about this thread

Babe, he's trying to sell you shoes on behalf of his overlords. He's not trying to give you an honest review, he's trying to sell you something and make money from you.

The dude was somewhat bearable previously but then following London he sold out to Adidas and Start Fitness for literally 6 pieces of silver and has slowly spent the last 6 months disappearing up his own ass.

He'll be selling coaching services next. Imagine being coached by someone with so little knowledge about running he ran himself into a serious illness.

Can't run as much now so he's trying to sell us things in the hope it keeps his handlers happy.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 1:44pm EST

re: Eliud Bekele

Eliud Bekele wrote:
Not to sound like a stalker, but J Mills of Crown My Run is looking suspiciously close to training via NSM based on his recent strava runs. Will it be enough to hold back the W Mills-shaped tsunami coming after his PBs in 2026?

NSM? Doing two standard threshold sessions across 2 weeks does not make someone doing NSM. In the past 17 days as well as two threshold sessions he's also done: three 5k races, 2 x 1 mile at sub 5k pace, a long run with efforts in, a long run right at the top of Z2, a Z2 run, short sprints plus 5k at M pace. If this is NSM then everything is NSM.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 5:56pm EST

re: Elliotb16

Elliotb16 wrote:
Griff Duncan WILL prove the haters wrong this time. Despite ~~injury~~ injuries, he has been cross training his ass off. His goal is to run under 2:50 and qualify for Boston but I believe he’s going well under that.

This dude infuriates me. Look at his story he just posted. "Almost perfect progression run". The best part is he disabled comments on the story. It is a terrible progression run looking at the splits. I encourage everyone to see for themselves. Starts his 2 mile warm up basically <1 min slower than GMP. Already off to a terrible start. His "progression" through 7 miles is basically a 7 mile tempo at 6:53 ish pace. Doesn't look anything like a progression run to me.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 6:03pm EST

re: SDrunning03

SDrunning03 wrote:
Elliotb16 wrote:
Griff Duncan WILL prove the haters wrong this time. Despite ~~injury~~ injuries, he has been cross training his ass off. His goal is to run under 2:50 and qualify for Boston but I believe he’s going well under that.
This dude infuriates me. Look at his story he just posted. "Almost perfect progression run". The best part is he disabled comments on the story. It is a terrible progression run looking at the splits. I encourage everyone to see for themselves. Starts his 2 mile warm up basically <1 min slower than GMP. Already off to a terrible start. His "progression" through 7 miles is basically a 7 mile tempo at 6:53 ish pace. Doesn't look anything like a progression run to me.

look.. his pace stayed the same but his heart rate definitely progressed

5 months ago 12/30/2025 7:12pm EST

re: JerRun2000

JerRun2000 wrote:
Charlesvdw wrote:
My 2 cents: RTJ chose the right path of high mileage.
This brought a runner with moderate talent to a 2:14, which is great.
I think he should run a lot less of B races and hard workouts though. When you run that kind of mileage, something's gotta give.
I really like RTJ but I don't get the 'Moderate Talent' thing, for some reason it seems to be a narrative Jake pushes for YouTube. He ran at a decent level as a youngster then had a while out for health reasons before moving to MMA in the US, he then ran a 2:30 something marathon with little training (something that an untalented runner certainly wouldn't be capable of doing).
So when he claims he went from a 2:30 to a 2:14 marathon "because of high milage" that is disingenuous because he would've improved massively by stopping MMA and going all in on running whatever philosophy he went with and its impossible to know what time he might've run if he was doing 180k a week with a few focused speed sessions.
He also uses relatively poor 5k/10k times as a reason for why he has less 'Talent'despite the fact he did almost no speed training for two years and even now he doesn't focus heavily enough on improving his speed whilst also barely ever racing 5/10k against other decent runners (I know that they are less popular in Japan and this is why). Its almost a self fulfilling prophecy where he doesn't train or race 5ks then claims hes a carthorse and does more endurance training because of it...

Exactly, the man is not lacking talent, he lacked training and focus, he barely ran consistently and it was a secondary hobby before, sounds like he did very little specific training to improve before this method so anything might have worked to get him down 15 minutes off his first marathon. Maybe 250k weeks fast tracked things by a little but he would likely have gotten there soon on a lot less.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 7:21pm EST

re: Whiny.Kelati

Whiny.Kelati wrote:
this is better than blogsnark wrote:
There's apparently a reddit page that does what we do, but they are even nastier to influencers than we are! They would tear the Wizard up worse lol.
Had a post about blogsnarkers but not sure where it went.
The weekly Healthy Living and Runfluencer thread at r/blogsnark is just a bunch of fat, slow, liberal white women snarking on hot female influencers out of jealousy. Mary McCarthy, Caitlyn Miller, Makayla, and Lucy Davis offer endless fodder for catty takedowns. Their cardinal sin is having the gall to follow someone with a conservative viewpoint on social media. It is quite literally the opposite of Letsrun. Hilarious and highly entertaining.

Mary Mc is super annoying though, she acts like an 18 year old and even clawed her annoying dancing weird im so cheery brainless act into hugo frys stuff.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 7:46pm EST

re: SDrunning03

SDrunning03 wrote:
Elliotb16 wrote:
Griff Duncan WILL prove the haters wrong this time. Despite ~~injury~~ injuries, he has been cross training his ass off. His goal is to run under 2:50 and qualify for Boston but I believe he’s going well under that.
This dude infuriates me. Look at his story he just posted. "Almost perfect progression run". The best part is he disabled comments on the story. It is a terrible progression run looking at the splits. I encourage everyone to see for themselves. Starts his 2 mile warm up basically <1 min slower than GMP. Already off to a terrible start. His "progression" through 7 miles is basically a 7 mile tempo at 6:53 ish pace. Doesn't look anything like a progression run to me.

He clearly doesn't understand what a progression run is, and he for sure is not able to admit that his marathon pace is not 6:52 per mile. It wasn't even a 7 mile tempo effort. It was literally as hard/far as he could run at 6:52 pace. Basically a 10K race effort. Dude is delusional.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 7:49pm EST

re: RTJbespoofing

RTJbespoofing wrote:
JerRun2000 wrote:
I really like RTJ but I don't get the 'Moderate Talent' thing, for some reason it seems to be a narrative Jake pushes for YouTube. He ran at a decent level as a youngster then had a while out for health reasons before moving to MMA in the US, he then ran a 2:30 something marathon with little training (something that an untalented runner certainly wouldn't be capable of doing).
So when he claims he went from a 2:30 to a 2:14 marathon "because of high milage" that is disingenuous because he would've improved massively by stopping MMA and going all in on running whatever philosophy he went with and its impossible to know what time he might've run if he was doing 180k a week with a few focused speed sessions.
He also uses relatively poor 5k/10k times as a reason for why he has less 'Talent'despite the fact he did almost no speed training for two years and even now he doesn't focus heavily enough on improving his speed whilst also barely ever racing 5/10k against other decent runners (I know that they are less popular in Japan and this is why). Its almost a self fulfilling prophecy where he doesn't train or race 5ks then claims hes a carthorse and does more endurance training because of it...
Exactly, the man is not lacking talent, he lacked training and focus, he barely ran consistently and it was a secondary hobby before, sounds like he did very little specific training to improve before this method so anything might have worked to get him down 15 minutes off his first marathon. Maybe 250k weeks fast tracked things by a little but he would likely have gotten there soon on a lot less.

I don't think we've talked about Jake's statement that he is confident he could set the world record for the 100K if he wanted to. I don't totally doubt him, but if true, why doesn't he?

I don't think he's going faster than 2:12 in the marathon, and what does that get him? Clearly his greatest talent is being able to run more mileage than almost anyone in the world. So why doesn't he set the ultra world on fire? A world record at 100K would open sponsorship door for him far beyond what a 2:12 would.

I think he's wasting his talents at the marathon if he truly could be this dominant at longer distances.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 9:17pm EST

re: Whiny.Kelati

Whiny.Kelati wrote:
RTJbespoofing wrote:
Exactly, the man is not lacking talent, he lacked training and focus, he barely ran consistently and it was a secondary hobby before, sounds like he did very little specific training to improve before this method so anything might have worked to get him down 15 minutes off his first marathon. Maybe 250k weeks fast tracked things by a little but he would likely have gotten there soon on a lot less.
I don't think we've talked about Jake's statement that he is confident he could set the world record for the 100K if he wanted to. I don't totally doubt him, but if true, why doesn't he?
I don't think he's going faster than 2:12 in the marathon, and what does that get him? Clearly his greatest talent is being able to run more mileage than almost anyone in the world. So why doesn't he set the ultra world on fire? A world record at 100K would open sponsorship door for him far beyond what a 2:12 would.
I think he's wasting his talents at the marathon if he truly could be this dominant at longer distances.

Didn’t he take second place in the Wings of Life Ultramarathon with literally zero over distance training?

I actually do believe he could take the 100K WR, I just think he wants his 2:10 first.

5 months ago 12/30/2025 11:41pm EST

re: Idiotonthenet

Idiotonthenet wrote:
ytube wrote:
Anyone know anything about this Running Channel Run Club the folks over at TRC keep pushing? All the constant plugs for it make me think it's not doing well, whatever it is.
If I'm being charitable, it's like an online-only running club for people that can't join a real running club for whatever reason.
If I'm being cynical, it's another unnecessary subscription masquerading as a 'community' that's a lazy attempt to make money off of the latest running boom.

same as BITR's Winter and Summer GRIT mileage and elevation challenges sponsored by Asics. They used to sell out but people are starting to realize paying 65$ (at the minimum!) to run around the block is foolish. They lowered the price back down a few weeks ago and tonight Thomas was on Instagram trying to encourage more signups before the Jan 1. deadline.

5 months ago 12/31/2025 12:05am EST

re: ShoeTubers

Why does fordy runs mention that he’s autistic or neurodivergent in almost every video?

5 months ago 12/31/2025 1:40am EST

re: 11min5k

11min5k wrote:
Why does fordy runs mention that he’s autistic or neurodivergent in almost every video?

He's trying to ingratiate himself to the Letsrun community

5 months ago 12/31/2025 2:57am EST

re: Whiny.Kelati

Whiny.Kelati wrote:
SDrunning03 wrote:
This dude infuriates me. Look at his story he just posted. "Almost perfect progression run". The best part is he disabled comments on the story. It is a terrible progression run looking at the splits. I encourage everyone to see for themselves. Starts his 2 mile warm up basically <1 min slower than GMP. Already off to a terrible start. His "progression" through 7 miles is basically a 7 mile tempo at 6:53 ish pace. Doesn't look anything like a progression run to me.
He clearly doesn't understand what a progression run is, and he for sure is not able to admit that his marathon pace is not 6:52 per mile. It wasn't even a 7 mile tempo effort. It was literally as hard/far as he could run at 6:52 pace. Basically a 10K race effort. Dude is delusional.

This is most runners who train for a marathon. Chose a random goal time with nothing at all to back it up, then run this pace during "Marathon Pace" workouts even though it is tougher than LT effort.

Turn up on race day, fade in the second half of the marathon and blame "nutrition" or "weather"

5 months ago 12/31/2025 3:24am EST

re: SlowPark

SlowPark wrote:
Whiny.Kelati wrote:
I don't think we've talked about Jake's statement that he is confident he could set the world record for the 100K if he wanted to. I don't totally doubt him, but if true, why doesn't he?
I don't think he's going faster than 2:12 in the marathon, and what does that get him? Clearly his greatest talent is being able to run more mileage than almost anyone in the world. So why doesn't he set the ultra world on fire? A world record at 100K would open sponsorship door for him far beyond what a 2:12 would.
I think he's wasting his talents at the marathon if he truly could be this dominant at longer distances.
Didn’t he take second place in the Wings of Life Ultramarathon with literally zero over distance training?
I actually do believe he could take the 100K WR, I just think he wants his 2:10 first.

He definitely has potential to do well over longer distances, but suggesting it's likely he could take the world record for 100k based off 67k run is bold...distances of over 80k aren't hugely correlated with marathon performance (beyond sub 2:30 marathon speed) and you really have to run one to know if you're able to hit that level. A more realistic target would be Steve Way's British road record for 100k of 6:19, rather than 6:05....There's loads of Brits that attempt 100k distance who are mid-2:10s marathon runners than can't break 6:30 over 100k distance

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