So you concede a single human cell is human life. SUCCESS. Then you clearly agree that a zygote is a life and shouldn’t be killed.
it took 40+ pages but we did it
To follow your argument, a single sperm is also life and therefore shouldn't be destroyed. I assume you have given up masturbation?
To be fair, a sperm cannot by itself become life as they are haploids (only having half the DNA). A skin cell though could become a full human though and therefore we couldn't use abrasive soap when we shower.
To follow your argument, a single sperm is also life and therefore shouldn't be destroyed. I assume you have given up masturbation?
To be fair, a sperm cannot by itself become life as they are haploids (only having half the DNA). A skin cell though could become a full human though and therefore we couldn't use abrasive soap when we shower.
A skin cell can’t become life… maybe we should extract the cells and give then to the pro birth group to see if they could keep the “life” alive
To follow your argument, a single sperm is also life and therefore shouldn't be destroyed. I assume you have given up masturbation?
To be fair, a sperm cannot by itself become life as they are haploids (only having half the DNA). A skin cell though could become a full human though and therefore we couldn't use abrasive soap when we shower.
A sperm is life, however, and that appears to be the argument for some. But, yes - so are skin cells - and hair and nails. Mustn't cut those.
The "life" argument is really just religious dogma in scientific drag.
You must have not read the 14th amendment - its right there in black and white. I assume then you also think we should overturn the precedent on gay marriage, gay sex, contraception, and interracial marriage?
“It” is nowhere to be found in the 14th, whatever “it” may be for either claim to become verifiable.
Green Day frontman Billie Joe Armstrong has told fans at a concert that he intends to renounce his United States citizenship following the US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade -- a controversial move that eliminates the federal constitutional right to abortion nationwide. During a performance as part of the band's Hella Mega tour at the London Stadium in the UK on Friday, Armstrong expressed his frustration as he told the crowd: "F**k America. I'm f***king renouncing my citizenship. I'm f**king coming here." He went on to say there's "too much f**king stupid in the world to go back to that miserable f**king excuse for a country,"
Man, don’t tease me. This is going to end up like Whoopi Goldberg and Rosie O’Donnell isn’t it? They promise to leave in a childlike tantrum and then, once their lizard brain turns off, they realize that they have it made here.
Will he also refund all the money he’s made from his tours and album sales and merchandise sales here? Didn’t think so.
So renouncing citizenship requires he refund the country that chose to buy his albums? I suppose Russians who renounce theirs should also pay Vladimir for the privilege. Same as German Jews who left in 1938 - they owed Hitler. All should pay the country they choose to leave. I guess the taxes they paid already don't count.
The left has “scientist” who don’t follow science. I don’t put much stock in anyone’s online credentials but when a “scientist” supports abortion or is pro experimental vaccine, then we know who is probably lying about their credentials.
But it is "scientific" to take away rights women have had for nearly fifty years?
The right to slavery lasted longer. That didn't give it more legitimacy.
To follow your argument, a single sperm is also life and therefore shouldn't be destroyed. I assume you have given up masturbation?
To be fair, a sperm cannot by itself become life as they are haploids (only having half the DNA). A skin cell though could become a full human though and therefore we couldn't use abrasive soap when we shower.
An embryo by itself cannot become life either. Neither can a skin cell I’m pretty sure. By itself is an important qualifier. I’ve never seen a skin cell continuously expand until it became a person.
"You are the quintessential example of what conservatives blame liberals for, why I long stopped identifying with the liberal label. Too shrill, not oriented in pragmatics, and caricaturing people with morally and intellectually honestly held belief systems."(quote)
You don't need to be caricatured - you do it all by yourself.
Showing up to the Roe v Wade thread to debate mens rights is peak comedy. High IQ low EQ.
So you noticed the high IQ, hah. EQ doesn’t mean very much, especially on an online forum, and was invented to make low IQ people like perhaps yourself feel good. Knock yourself out with personal attacks and dismissiveness.
Anyone else think it's kind of weird how rabid liberals feel so motivated to change the names of mountains, because the name is associated with racism/slavery but also have a strong desire to fund Planned Parenthood, which was founded by a white supremacist whose plan was to keep the Black population in check through eugenics?
I always found that very weird, but what do I know, I'm just a bigot.
But it is "scientific" to take away rights women have had for nearly fifty years?
The right to slavery lasted longer. That didn't give it more legitimacy.
So you equate the "right" to own slaves with a woman's right to make her own choices about her reproductive health? Some of you really haven't moved far beyond 1860.
To follow your argument, a single sperm is also life and therefore shouldn't be destroyed. I assume you have given up masturbation?
No no no, we are following your argument now. You said a single human cell is human life. Your words not mine.
Yes - it is life. As a foetus is life. So how do you apply the argument that there is no right to end that life, the life of a cell, as you do in respect of the foetus?
Anyone else think it's kind of weird how rabid liberals feel so motivated to change the names of mountains, because the name is associated with racism/slavery but also have a strong desire to fund Planned Parenthood, which was founded by a white supremacist whose plan was to keep the Black population in check through eugenics?
I always found that very weird, but what do I know, I'm just a bigot.
I also find it weird that Biden’s solicitor general argued in front of the Supreme Court that there could be no middle ground in the Dobb’s case. Either overturn or uphold roe, even though John Roberts was attempting to find a middle ground. They forced the hand of SCOTUS and SCOTUS chose to send the power back to the states.
all this other talk is just getting stuck in weeds. A lot of times people choose to drag a conversation into the weeds when they know they have no standing on the actual topic. The 14th amendment has no mention of abortion. The 10th amendment is clear. Federalism in action.
To be fair, a sperm cannot by itself become life as they are haploids (only having half the DNA). A skin cell though could become a full human though and therefore we couldn't use abrasive soap when we shower.
An embryo by itself cannot become life either. Neither can a skin cell I’m pretty sure. By itself is an important qualifier. I’ve never seen a skin cell continuously expand until it became a person.
Well not by itself, but a skin cell contains all of the information needed to be a human. A sperm cell does not. You can technically reprogram a skin cell to become an embryonic stem cell; you can't do this with a sperm.
Anyone else think it's kind of weird how rabid liberals feel so motivated to change the names of mountains, because the name is associated with racism/slavery but also have a strong desire to fund Planned Parenthood, which was founded by a white supremacist whose plan was to keep the Black population in check through eugenics?
I always found that very weird, but what do I know, I'm just a bigot.
So is Planned Parenthood aim at implementing white supremacy and eugenics? Or is it simply offering planned parenthood?
Your country was founded by slaveowners. So is racial oppression the purpose of your government? (Some might say it still is).
Showing up to the Roe v Wade thread to debate mens rights is peak comedy. High IQ low EQ.
So you noticed the high IQ, hah. EQ doesn’t mean very much, especially on an online forum, and was invented to make low IQ people like perhaps yourself feel good. Knock yourself out with personal attacks and dismissiveness.
He was being generous when he said high IQ. A more modest estimate would have done. You've certainly proved the EQ isn't present.
To follow your argument, a single sperm is also life and therefore shouldn't be destroyed. I assume you have given up masturbation?
No no no, we are following your argument now. You said a single human cell is human life. Your words not mine.
Exactly, the pro-choicers found the sanctity argument so compelling that they got overdrunk on the koolaid to the point of insanity and have now started worshipping skin cells and demonizing soap.
It’s real funny watching when your debate opponents twist themselves into a pretzel thinking on behalf of you and then starts crying out loud.
No no no, we are following your argument now. You said a single human cell is human life. Your words not mine.
Yes - it is life. As a foetus is life. So how do you apply the argument that there is no right to end that life, the life of a cell, as you do in respect of the foetus?
a sperm cell contains half the chromosomes needed for human life. It is half of a whole.
Anyone else think it's kind of weird how rabid liberals feel so motivated to change the names of mountains, because the name is associated with racism/slavery but also have a strong desire to fund Planned Parenthood, which was founded by a white supremacist whose plan was to keep the Black population in check through eugenics?
I always found that very weird, but what do I know, I'm just a bigot.
So is Planned Parenthood aim at implementing white supremacy and eugenics? Or is it simply offering planned parenthood?
Your country was founded by slaveowners. So is racial oppression the purpose of your government? (Some might say it still is).
You argue America is still a bad country because it was founded on slavery and racism. You, if you want to be intellectually consistent, have to apply that same concept to planned parenthood. It was founded on racist grounds, therefore, it is still evil and racist if we are using your logic.