Dementia Joe is gonna get smoked in the election. He won’t remember it but he’s getting smoked.
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Dementia Joe is gonna get smoked in the election. He won’t remember it but he’s getting smoked.
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Rigged for Hillary wrote:
No, you simpleton. She was flaunting her two sub-zero fridges at about $10K each, plus the $13 per pint (not per quart) ice cream when she did nothing to help small business owners.
“While Nancy Pelosi sits in her ivory tower in San Francisco, eating $13 dollar a pint ice cream out of her $24,000 fridge, she is cheering on Democrats for blocking coronavirus relief aid that has so far been distributed to 1.3 million small businesses that is about to run out.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/let-them-eat-ice-cream-multi-millionaire-pelosi-shows-off-freezer-full-of-gourmet-ice-cream-as-thousands-line-up-at-food-banksWhat's the matter with you?
Should she rather have had a golden toilet seat like Trump?
And the serious question....why is an American fridge costing >$10K, when you get better quality from Korea at <$1K
That's what you should be asking.
Along with all the big muscle cars that have no safety standards for rest of world.
Big improvement in the IHME model - down to 68,000 usa deaths by August. Has been in the 80k range until this move down.
Outstanding.
remember that Trump's lawyer/fixer is in jail.
and remember that trump had to have a criminal 'fixer' to get him out of trouble.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politics/michael-cohen-to-be-released-prison-coronavirus/index.html
the mysteries of this thing:
1) Why do so many people have zero or minimal symptoms...while it kills so many others.
2) Why are these daily death peaks so extended?
3) How are so many people still getting this thing... despite being locked down?
4) Does having had it confer immunity?
5) Why so many false negatives on tests?
6)How many people have had it already?
How do you see the economy recovering as we move forward?
agip wrote:
Big improvement in the IHME model - down to 68,000 usa deaths by August. Has been in the 80k range until this move down.
Outstanding.
It has been there for at least since the end of last week. Hasn't been updated since Monday.
It will need to be revised up again. Deaths are running quite a bit ahead of those projections. The Chinese just made a big updated revision to their death toll, which will need to be put in to the assumptions and modify the model.
4.16 data:
Another day on top of the peak (let's hope)
Daily death counts fell, but not enough to bring down 7 day averages.
Worldwide, 7 day average death counts are flat. Which is better than last week's low single digits but the numbers just don't seem to be falling much.
USA continues to be the worst of major players, with 7 day average daily growth of +4%.
Spain is the best at negative 3%.
Italy and Spain as a unit is also down 3%
Case counts are off their peaks in most nations but plateauing, not falling like a bell curve.
China just added many new deaths from prior days...I'll delete those going forward. We're looking for trends, not historical counts.
agip wrote:
the mysteries of this thing:
1) Why do so many people have zero or minimal symptoms...while it kills so many others.
This is not a mystery. People are asymptomatic with many infectious diseases at similar rates. Lower viral load exposure, stronger immune response, etc.
question for Agip wrote:
How do you see the economy recovering as we move forward?
No one knows.
I will say that i've recently become more optimistic than I have been.
The bailout package for individuals is bigger than I understood it to be, which will help. I'm not putting the Agip stamp of authenticity on it, but I believe a worker getting the $1200 plus unemployment plus other gummint benefits is getting more than I understood he or she would get. Maybe enough to keep the lights on and food on the table.
And then the great medical news coming out, and the easing of models, and Europe moving to reduce the lockdowns...I think the tide has turned, but it will be a long wait for low tide.
And it will matter where you are, certainly.
The problem is when people will feel comfortable going out to dinner or to the movies or an event. If a biz is open but no one goes...not much improvement has been had.
moderates suck wrote:
agip wrote:
the mysteries of this thing:
1) Why do so many people have zero or minimal symptoms...while it kills so many others.
This is not a mystery. People are asymptomatic with many infectious diseases at similar rates. Lower viral load exposure, stronger immune response, etc.
yeah? I've heard several doctors being interviewed saying they'd like to understand this better and that they don't get it. Probably they just want the detailed medical bits, so they can improve treatment.
agip wrote:
moderates suck wrote:
This is not a mystery. People are asymptomatic with many infectious diseases at similar rates. Lower viral load exposure, stronger immune response, etc.
yeah? I've heard several doctors being interviewed saying they'd like to understand this better and that they don't get it. Probably they just want the detailed medical bits, so they can improve treatment.
Right. Experts might gain significant insights from understanding the biochemistry better. I just don't think it is a mystery at a macro level that we are discussing it at.
agip wrote:
question for Agip wrote:
How do you see the economy recovering as we move forward?
No one knows.
I will say that i've recently become more optimistic than I have been.
The bailout package for individuals is bigger than I understood it to be, which will help. I'm not putting the Agip stamp of authenticity on it, but I believe a worker getting the $1200 plus unemployment plus other gummint benefits is getting more than I understood he or she would get. Maybe enough to keep the lights on and food on the table.
And then the great medical news coming out, and the easing of models, and Europe moving to reduce the lockdowns...I think the tide has turned, but it will be a long wait for low tide.
And it will matter where you are, certainly.
The problem is when people will feel comfortable going out to dinner or to the movies or an event. If a biz is open but no one goes...not much improvement has been had.
I think one would be buying at the short term high right now thinking it’s over and then everything will get slammed again. This is not going to just disappear since only a small fraction of the population has been exposed. If people aren’t extra careful when guidance eases it is going to spread like wildfire. Just look at how quickly it exploded even under lockdown, no way this is done yet, far from it. What I’m wondering is what the tolerance for death will be like once it’s no longer just a Dem city problem.
Btw...
https://twitter.com/mrerikjackson/status/1251000045513605121?s=21L L wrote:
Do you really think you will be able to sit in a restaurant or go to a mall in Ohio on May 1?
No chance that happens in Maryland where we also have a Republican Governor.
Even if rules lax, I doubt you’ll see a rush of people mingling.
I don’t know why there is any upward stock market movements, the unemployment situation is going compound problems.
Stimulus is falling short.
States are running out of money.
We started with a federal deficit over one trillion dollars while the economy was hot and now we’re exhausting resources.
Governor DeWine hasn't given details yet, so I really don't know what the May 1 date will look like. I personally will not be venturing out into crowds May 1. It is a really tough call. We have to look at the data, and the data here in Ohio says the curve has been flattened big time. Most of our neighboring states though have not been as fortunate, including Michigan which is having a hell of a time in Detroit especially. If we open thing up here in Ohio, we may get people from neighboring states coming across the border just to go out to dinner. That might be ok or not be ok. I actually think that based on Ohio's data hat DeWine has to open up SOMETHING. I'm not rooting for that necessarily, though I will be happy for people who get to go back to work.
I am a lot less optimistic about the economy than you are, and usually I'm an optimist on these things.
I look at the very slow recovery from the 2008 recession that took years to recover from.
This situation is way, way worse.
That situation was more of a stock market collapse from a housing bubble burst with many investments tied into mortgage securities.
Spending slowed as a result, unemployment went to 10%.
The unemployment number is going to sail way past that.
People with money can't spend it on the products that would save these people because they are shut down.
The stimulus package is pretty big and they acted fast, but this is like trying to fix the hole in the Titanic as it goes down.
And people will be skittish to go out even when they have the OK.
The economy is going to have to be re-invented over the next couple years.
Some businesses will be gone forever.
There will be even greater income inequality as a result of this.
The economy will contract.
People who keep their jobs with the same income will become relatively rich.
Some will profit of of this depending on their industry.
Others will struggle greatly.
On a political thread in an election year, I see a terrible economy existing going into November.
Normally that would be bad for the incumbent president, and I think he will lose.
But he is great at getting his followers to believe someone else is to blame.
Right now, Trump is saying he wants the economy fully open by May.
Then he tells the governors that they have a guideline to follow to open things up.
As they keep things closed for safety, he will blame all of the governors for the bad economy.
And his followers will buy it. His detractors will see the BS.
And others will simply be confused.
It's gonna be ugly.
Interesting article on the upcoming propanada.
"The fight to keep Americans from understanding what happened from December to March is going to be one of the biggest propaganda battles in American history. Because so much of it is public. We have so many statements from Trump minimizing the danger. So many things are already on the record."
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Smorbun wrote:
Showing off because she has ice cream in her freezer? You have got to be kidding. Your boy has a golden toilet and talks about how rich he is. WTF is wrong with you? It is something on a deep deep level, and I mean besides being an idiot.
No, you simpleton. She was flaunting her two sub-zero fridges at about $10K each, plus the $13 per pint (not per quart) ice cream when she did nothing to help small business owners.
“While Nancy Pelosi sits in her ivory tower in San Francisco, eating $13 dollar a pint ice cream out of her $24,000 fridge, she is cheering on Democrats for blocking coronavirus relief aid that has so far been distributed to 1.3 million small businesses that is about to run out.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/let-them-eat-ice-cream-multi-millionaire-pelosi-shows-off-freezer-full-of-gourmet-ice-cream-as-thousands-line-up-at-food-banksWhat's the matter with you?
Man, you are so stupid and also a hypocrite. Pelosi is a woman of financial means. Big deal that she has expensive kitchen appliances. She has enough money to not care how much her preferred ice cream costs. Talk about being out of touch. You're the one out of touch. You want people to be able to make money and keep as much of it as they can so they can live their best life, unless it's a Democrat. Flaunting her appliances and her ice cream? You are out of your mind.
Who the fvck eats ice cream by the pint? GTF out of here with your mock outrage, you adore the Trumps for fox’s sake.
semsurrrrrrrr wrote:
Who the fvck eats ice cream by the pint? GTF out of here with your mock outrage, you adore the Trumps for fox’s sake.
Oh, he's outraged. He's by far the most partisan person here, so much that he can't see straight. This is not helped by the fact he's an absolute idiot. Nothing he says makes any sense.
Well, well, well.....you learn something new everyday.