NEW Atlantic Region XC *2009* thread

sonofkibitzer wrote:

NYU didnt run great at Metro's, but my best guess is they are burning ass training like mad men for the part of the season that counts. The revamped VCP course is harder than the normal course, there is very little time between the backhills and cemetary, maybe 3:30, old way was 6+ minutes on flats. Lee should be further up, but as usual you are giving no credit to maybe Maher being Legit.

Maher, AA in XC last year, qualified indoor in mile and DMR. Ran a good 5k outdoor. NYU's top 4-5 are as good as anyone if they all run the way they are capable on the same day. Obviously not always the easiest thing to do for any team.

Guess we will see how close they can come to Alleghany this weekend in Ohio.

It doesn't matter what Maher or anyone did in the past. Running a good race last spring doesn't move your team up in the standings now. We have current results to judge where people are.

That said, I think that they are underrated right now and I think that they'll show up to race at Oberlin. Obviously it's about the fastest course there is but we'll get to see how their team stacks up. I bet they make some noise and their guys start running like the should be.

Also, a bit about Cortland's race tomorrow (Penn State National Invite). Right now there is about an inch and a half of snow on Penn State's course with more snow predicted tonight and a high of 35 or so tomorrow, so safe to say the times will be extremely slow. It's also a curvy, rolling course on grass, so it should be a fun time. It's unfortunate because it will be tough to compare their times with Geneseo's on the same course back in September. We'll get that matchup in a couple weekends anyways.

Times on Penn State's course don't mean much because they are constantly changing the course. However racing against Penn State, Georgetown, Kentucky, and a bunch of other tough D1 schools will give us a good idea of how good Cortland is. It will also give us a glimpse of how they will perform if the weather is shit at nationals.

This is the meet where Cortland lost to Nova by just 1 point last year if I am correct. If they can hang close to the front than we can assume they are more than capable of repeating.

Penn State got cancelled due to snow. When has an xc race got cancelled... Ridiculous.

Never heard of a cross country race being canceled. Cortland is going to be at Lockhaven today instead.

Yeah seriously. Penn State XC < high school.

Agreed wrote:

Never heard of a cross country race being canceled. Cortland is going to be at Lockhaven today instead.

Lock Haven race has been schedule for this afternoon. I don't know how the weather is there, but I've heard that course is flat and fast (correct me if that's wrong, I've never been there). Here's the release about it on Lock Haven's website, along with teams going.

Cortland gets 2nd to Cornell in very muddy conditions. The scores were around 48-70

krustykrabpizza wrote:

Cortland gets 2nd to Cornell in very muddy conditions. The scores were around 48-70

Probably a stronger race on the women's side:

http://www.lhup.edu/sports/crosscountry/new_crosscountry/09Results/WOMENS.HTML

So If it was wet and muddy the womens course must have been short. For crying out loud the cortland women ran faster than Lehigh.

Maybe that just says something about Cortland women... I know from Lock Haven athletes that the course is a legit 8k, being measured multiple times in the past and no different today.

kibitzer wrote:

Probably a stronger race on the women's side:

http://www.lhup.edu/sports/crosscountry/new_crosscountry/09Results/WOMENS.HTML

Gee, ya think? Cornell men win handily (*very* nice job by Cortland, btw); Cornell women "only" fourth, behind #3 WVU, #16 PSU, #25 Providence, and ahead of BC and Stony Brook, which have been getting votes in the national poll all season. Yeah, I'd say the women's race was "probably" stronger.

...Meaning that the Cortland women, who were "only" 12th in that loaded field--all the teams that finished ahead of them are DI--still ran very well. I'll grant they're not as strong as the Cortland men's team, but the Red Dragon women are a *very* solid team and should not be overlooked. They had less than a minute's spread for their 1-5 runners.

Wouldn't surprise me if the poll voters gave them no credit for the performance, though. "Are you kiddin' me? They only finished 12th out of 19! I'm not rankin' them higher than last week..."

Could you *please* not "post" again you are an (idiot). Thanks.

registrationshmegistration wrote:

Could you *please* not "post" again you are an (idiot). Thanks.

Cruel but fair. I won't post in this thread again, anyway--hope that's sufficient.

All is know is NYU came in 2nd at Oberlin Invite today and Maher was 3rd in 24:55

NYU Violets wrote:

All is know is NYU came in 2nd at Oberlin Invite today and Maher was 3rd in 24:55

Actually, the NYU men won with 53 points over Allegheny with 56. Fredonia, TNCJ and Brockport finish 9th, 10th and 11th, but really spread out point wise.

On the women's side, very good showings by NYU and Brockport. Both finishing well ahead of TCNJ. And Brockport has more in the tank as Streeter is rumored to be coming off an injury and should be their top runner.

Results ->

Women's results ->

Heard a few things about the U of R meet -

Chichester won in 24:56 - no L. Berube - Geneseo had 6 under 25:40. U of R had Lang and Vavra in the low 25:00's. Geneseo "probably" won over Cornell "B"

Good race by RIT, whooped some SUNY Platt ass.

Vin wrote:

Actually, the NYU men won with 53 points over Allegheny with 56. Fredonia, TNCJ and Brockport finish 9th, 10th and 11th, but really spread out point wise.

On the women's side, very good showings by NYU and Brockport. Both finishing well ahead of TCNJ. And Brockport has more in the tank as Streeter is rumored to be coming off an injury and should be their top runner.

Results ->

http://www.runhigh.com/2009%20WEB%20RESULTS/R101709AC.html

Women's results ->

http://www.runhigh.com/2009%20WEB%20RESULTS/R101709AB.html

Thanks for links! Very impressive performance for the Violet men, with a 1-5 spread of 38secs and a narrow defeat of #5 Allegheny; and maybe the best meet yet for the women, beating #16 (but not for long) TCNJ.

Good representation and performances, overall, for the Atlantic teams! Brockport women a real X factor going into the championship meets.