It was already talked about in the northwest thread and Washington thread but Mercer island tanked those other Washington teams without their number 4 runner last week. In the California thread there was already talk about how Mercer island was probably the fastest team in the northwest followed by crater. So they should really be included in this.
Herriman is in a league of it's own. Scoring under 100 points is Newbury Park type stuff, but to score under 80, and in the most stacked field team-wise ever assembled at Woodbridge??? Absolutely, undeniably, the best team in the nation, and it might not even be that close
The California teams will not get an at-large. Despite being outside the window teams are looked at, Woodbridge shows how the Cali teams stack up, and not even putting one team in the top 7 is pathetic. No at large for them, unless they do something mental like a Cali team upsetting Herriman at Bob Firman
The Northwest is STACKED AND ALSO UNDER THE RADAR. 4 of the top 5 individuals come from the Northwest. Jesuit OR, Franklin, and Rocky Mountain, all teams that have resume's that are in the ballpark with the other top NW teams, were missing. The teams that did come, got 3rd, 5th, and 7th, and again, that's missing 3 of the teams that have legitimate NXR podium chances.
The individual competition this year might rival 2022. Plugging Owen Powell's time into last year's speed ratings puts out a ~199. The same goes for Josiah Tostenson. Obviously it's not a perfect measure, but its a good baseline estimate, and barring the course being short, shows that we have at least a couple Northwest guys who could take the NXN course record, and guys like Noonan, who obviously are better than this race shows, shouldn't be counted out either.
Herriman is in a league of it's own. Scoring under 100 points is Newbury Park type stuff, but to score under 80, and in the most stacked field team-wise ever assembled at Woodbridge??? Absolutely, undeniably, the best team in the nation, and it might not even be that close
The California teams will not get an at-large. Despite being outside the window teams are looked at, Woodbridge shows how the Cali teams stack up, and not even putting one team in the top 7 is pathetic. No at large for them, unless they do something mental like a Cali team upsetting Herriman at Bob Firman
The Northwest is STACKED AND ALSO UNDER THE RADAR. 4 of the top 5 individuals come from the Northwest. Jesuit OR, Franklin, and Rocky Mountain, all teams that have resume's that are in the ballpark with the other top NW teams, were missing. The teams that did come, got 3rd, 5th, and 7th, and again, that's missing 3 of the teams that have legitimate NXR podium chances.
The individual competition this year might rival 2022. Plugging Owen Powell's time into last year's speed ratings puts out a ~199. The same goes for Josiah Tostenson. Obviously it's not a perfect measure, but its a good baseline estimate, and barring the course being short, shows that we have at least a couple Northwest guys who could take the NXN course record, and guys like Noonan, who obviously are better than this race shows, shouldn't be counted out either.
Southwest is stacked(but not under the radar). Herriman, AF, Niwott, Hamilton, Rock Canyon plus a litany of Utah teams. Hamilton doesn't have a lot of depth. Poor showing by their 4 through 6 hurt them today.
Herriman is in a league of it's own. Scoring under 100 points is Newbury Park type stuff, but to score under 80, and in the most stacked field team-wise ever assembled at Woodbridge??? Absolutely, undeniably, the best team in the nation, and it might not even be that close
The California teams will not get an at-large. Despite being outside the window teams are looked at, Woodbridge shows how the Cali teams stack up, and not even putting one team in the top 7 is pathetic. No at large for them, unless they do something mental like a Cali team upsetting Herriman at Bob Firman
The Northwest is STACKED AND ALSO UNDER THE RADAR. 4 of the top 5 individuals come from the Northwest. Jesuit OR, Franklin, and Rocky Mountain, all teams that have resume's that are in the ballpark with the other top NW teams, were missing. The teams that did come, got 3rd, 5th, and 7th, and again, that's missing 3 of the teams that have legitimate NXR podium chances.
The individual competition this year might rival 2022. Plugging Owen Powell's time into last year's speed ratings puts out a ~199. The same goes for Josiah Tostenson. Obviously it's not a perfect measure, but its a good baseline estimate, and barring the course being short, shows that we have at least a couple Northwest guys who could take the NXN course record, and guys like Noonan, who obviously are better than this race shows, shouldn't be counted out either.
Southwest is stacked(but not under the radar). Herriman, AF, Niwott, Hamilton, Rock Canyon plus a litany of Utah teams. Hamilton doesn't have a lot of depth. Poor showing by their 4 through 6 hurt them today.
They got 4th at woodbridge, that's really good. Woodbridge is similar to nxn or nxr southwest where some people have the best race of their life, and some people run really bad. It is the same for every time just like how it is at nxn
Herriman is in a league of it's own. Scoring under 100 points is Newbury Park type stuff, but to score under 80, and in the most stacked field team-wise ever assembled at Woodbridge??? Absolutely, undeniably, the best team in the nation, and it might not even be that close
This was an amazing performance by Herriman, but it is not approaching NP. Remember they went 1-2-3-4 in 2021, all well under 14. I agree they are #1 but NP level. We still have yet to see Niwot and CBA run a big race.
Herriman is in a league of it's own. Scoring under 100 points is Newbury Park type stuff, but to score under 80, and in the most stacked field team-wise ever assembled at Woodbridge??? Absolutely, undeniably, the best team in the nation, and it might not even be that close
This was an amazing performance by Herriman, but it is not approaching NP. Remember they went 1-2-3-4 in 2021, all well under 14. I agree they are #1 but NP level. We still have yet to see Niwot and CBA run a big race.
Niwot this weekend went 1-6 & 8 at a race where 9th place was the fastest returning runner from the Colorado large school 5A 3200. So their entire top 7 just beat a guy who ran a 9:12 3200 at altitude (8:53 converted) last year.
This was an amazing performance by Herriman, but it is not approaching NP. Remember they went 1-2-3-4 in 2021, all well under 14. I agree they are #1 but NP level. We still have yet to see Niwot and CBA run a big race.
Niwot this weekend went 1-6 & 8 at a race where 9th place was the fastest returning runner from the Colorado large school 5A 3200. So their entire top 7 just beat a guy who ran a 9:12 3200 at altitude (8:53 converted) last year.
I’m not affiliated with Niwot, but their results at St. Vrain are staggering. Looking at recent results from last weekend, the guys who got 7th & 9th at St. Vrain ran 15:12 & 15:06 at Liberty Bell. Safe to say Niwot’s entire top 7 could make a serious push at 15-flat on a fast course. Their entire top seven will also be 178 or above on speed rating with that race. As good as Herriman is, Niwot could be right there with them.
my guess is that at-large bids should be 2 SW, 1 NW, 1 S (depending on how close the at-large team can finish to southlake, if too far away they should be 2 NW) this year.
Normally, that would be a great opportunity for a PR meet. But it’s supposed to be 109 in Phoenix this Friday!!! Could still be mid 90s for the sweepstakes races.
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