Trigged’s fave, Real Clear Politics, actually brags about its specialty of disinformation.
I can’t remember the last politically clear thing that happened in USA. Nominations?
George Washington? His enemies begged him to run for a second term; they didn’t agree on anything else.
moderates suck wrote:
agip wrote:
The iran data were just too consistent to be considered real. Every nation had peaks and valleys in the data except iran, which was rock steady. So I chose to move to France, which was a bigger problem anyway.
True that the hotspot theory may stop making any sense. If it does, I will stop using it. Which will probably happen, yes, since the USA is going to be the world leader in deaths.
The hotspot theory is still valid, I think...I'm not aware of nations or regions where outbreaks are evenly divided over urban and rural etc.
You should stop using it now. It never made sense, for the same reasons France was not a hotspot and now is. Or I can go back and bump your earlier hotspot posts if you want.
I have no idea how you look at the huge concentration of cases in Lombardy, NYC and Paris and say that there's no such thing as hotspots.
No idea.
The U.S. has passed Italy in COVID-19 cases!
China 81,285
USA 74,399
Italy 74,386
Smorbun wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
47% Approval
Gap 2.5%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.htmlKAG2020
You're the idiot who likes polls when they are trending your way but when not, you mention how all the polls were wrong in 2016. Idiot.
Sourbuns, why are you so triggered? Could it be that you will be self banning forever with Trump's reelection victory.
Enjoy your loss.
KAG2020
agip wrote:
moderates suck wrote:
You should stop using it now. It never made sense, for the same reasons France was not a hotspot and now is. Or I can go back and bump your earlier hotspot posts if you want.
I have no idea how you look at the huge concentration of cases in Lombardy, NYC and Paris and say that there's no such thing as hotspots.
No idea.
You were and are using country-wide numbers, not focused on those areas. If you want to construct some different theory of the case with appropriate evidence you could, of course, do that, but that is not what your argument or your evidence has been.
I'd rathrr you just went back to talking about the stock market and vaueing profits over people.
The Gap now at 6.1 :
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
I find it striking that his approval percentage is about where it has been for a long time; it's his disapproval numbers that have dropped, to their lowest level in three years.
Meanwhile his daily press conferences amount to quasi-campaign rallies; and, as in 2016, when the various media were estimated to have given him $2 billions' worth of free publicity, he's now getting tremendous exposure while the Dem candidates are not to be seen.
This is funny. He nails a Trump impersonation. Way better than Alec Baldwin.
moderates suck wrote:
agip wrote:
I have no idea how you look at the huge concentration of cases in Lombardy, NYC and Paris and say that there's no such thing as hotspots.
No idea.
You were and are using country-wide numbers, not focused on those areas. If you want to construct some different theory of the case with appropriate evidence you could, of course, do that, but that is not what your argument or your evidence has been.
I'd rathrr you just went back to talking about the stock market and vaueing profits over people.
the data are a bit muddy, sure. And not even sure what you mean by 'hotspot theory.'
I'll point out that I was among the first to start talking about the topping out of Italy...that country has had roughly the same daily deaths and new case counts for a week. Looking at the data my way showed that develop.
Now the data are showing the entire italy - france - spain group as a whole starting to form a top.
This is useful.
One of the problems with agip & his kind is they hate indisputable numbers. We have to remind him that 3+ million new jobless claims is an “outlier” (hint, agip: not in a good way).
They’re more like trumpanzees who can slice & dice anything into a bvllshi+ argument. Numbers don’t lie, so they seek numbers that are easy to interpret in many ways.
Sort of a blowhard bias.
DhP wrote:
The U.S. has passed Italy in COVID-19 cases!
China 81,285
USA 74,399
Italy 74,386
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Italy hasn't reported their numbers for today yet.
(US will actually pass Italy by this weekend)
When will NYC pass Italy?
Answer: As soon as trump can manage it.
jesseriley wrote:
Sort of a blowhard bias.
The health experts are saying they are still learning about this virus.
But then we have the bean counters here who use the stats to blow hard on their theories of what the virus is doing and going to do. They do this with no knowledge of how diseases work and without even bothering to find out what the medical experts are telling us.
If all it took was statistical analysis to understand a pandemic there would be no need for Dr Fauci. Thinking you can explain highly complex issues - like a new disease - through head counts alone is a form of heightened stupidity.
Armstronglivs wrote:
jesseriley wrote:
Sort of a blowhard bias.
The health experts are saying they are still learning about this virus.
But then we have the bean counters here who use the stats to blow hard on their theories of what the virus is doing and going to do. They do this with no knowledge of how diseases work and without even bothering to find out what the medical experts are telling us.
If all it took was statistical analysis to understand a pandemic there would be no need for Dr Fauci. Thinking you can explain highly complex issues - like a new disease - through head counts alone is a form of heightened stupidity.
The people playing with the numbers here are not stupid. They know they are merely playing games. They know that there are real experts who do this for a living.
P knows he doesn't have better answers than the epidemiologists. agip knows he hasn't actually discovered anything new in the data.
At least I hope they know. I try to give the benefit of the doubt on this. We are all trying to make sense of things in our own way. And the resulting discussion can be interesting.
CountChocula wrote:
DhP wrote:
The U.S. has passed Italy in COVID-19 cases!
China 81,285
USA 74,399
Italy 74,386
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Italy hasn't reported their numbers for today yet.
(US will actually pass Italy by this weekend)
Italy just reported.
China 81,285
Italy 80,539
USA 75,665
agip wrote:
the data are a bit muddy, sure. And not even sure what you mean by 'hotspot theory.'
I'll point out that I was among the first to start talking about the topping out of Italy...that country has had roughly the same daily deaths and new case counts for a week. Looking at the data my way showed that develop.
Now the data are showing the entire italy - france - spain group as a whole starting to form a top.
This is useful.
If you don't know what it means you should definitely stop using it, you invented it as away to argue this was only a problem in select areas, I can bump your posts if you like.
agip’s lying
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
This is funny. He nails a Trump impersonation. Way better than Alec Baldwin.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1242852430582341639
Yeah, that was pretty good.
Thanks
Fat hurts wrote:
Italy just reported.
China 81,285
Italy 80,539
USA 75,665
We will pass both by the end of the day.
Cuomo said at his presser today that the average time on a ventilator is 11-22 days. That is a really long time on a ventilator. Very scary.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
This is funny. He nails a Trump impersonation. Way better than Alec Baldwin.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1242852430582341639
Pretty good but this guy doesn't have his orangeness and mouth, critical IMO.