None of these dudes do. Only dude that actually does is Yowana because he is 1) a fairly decent runner and 2) actually runs enough mileage to warrant a decent opinion on anything
Yowana? ... Are there shoetubers that you can trust?
After watching a quite a few I decided that creating content seems to be more important than being trustworthy ..
Not sure why you would trust any of these shoetubers who seem to have conflicts of interest and some underlying agenda, when you can just go see what the running shoe geeks say on reddit. At least there you get a wide variety of opinions about a given shoe so you can suss out the areas where it might not work for you.
Sagasu Running apparently counts all shoes he has tried on in a store. In his videos he postures as if he truly knows how different shoes feel, yet most of his opinions seem to be based on things he has heard from others or on a quick fitting-room test. Nike appears to be the only brand that actually sends him shoes or at least he keeps hinting at some kind of collaboration. No wonder Nike models receive such glowing praise. He has been talking about training for a half marathon for almost two years now, so it will come as no surprise when there is yet another excuse for not running a 1:20 half. If he even makes it to the starting line, my bet is that his finish time will be much closer to two hours.
New RTJ video has dropped, I like the guy but he's looking for every excuse under the sun why he bonked so hard in Valencia - travel, illness, celiac disease (spoiler alert - he did a test and it came out negative), haemoglobin levels. Maybe you just went out too quick?
He had to be pulled off the course, then does several runs over the coming days including the next morning after the marathon, and then wonders why he's getting ill. The train harder gimmick is getting a bit old now.
New RTJ video has dropped, I like the guy but he's looking for every excuse under the sun why he bonked so hard in Valencia - travel, illness, celiac disease (spoiler alert - he did a test and it came out negative), haemoglobin levels. Maybe you just went out too quick?
He had to be pulled off the course, then does several runs over the coming days including the next morning after the marathon, and then wonders why he's getting ill. The train harder gimmick is getting a bit old now.
Whether you like it or not, it's not a "gimmick". He's philosophically aligned to a methodology. If he's implementing it correctly or sensibly is open for debate. However, I don't think it's a tool just to get views. Overall, it is what makes his channel so interesting. What would you rather, someone like Fenton saying "so coach told me to do this, so yea that's what I'm doing and lactate is down which is, err, good yea.
True! These marathoners running over three hours do not benefit from spikes at all. They only make recovery harder. I am a sub-2:40 runner, and I use spikes only when I absolutely have to run 5,000–10,000 meters on the track, and a few times when preparing for that. If there were no 20 mm shoe rule, I would use regular running shoes instead.
Imagine hobbyjogging a 2:40 'thon and trying to gatekeep. Lol
With Nomio (~3h before test) - 18.5kph (BLa 1.59) 19.5kph (BLa 3.91) 20.0kph (BLa 3.72)
Something off with the last two readings. Could the 19.5kph one be slightly sweat contaminated and might be more like 3.3 if retested? Spotted the guy using a capillary tube to transfer blood sample to the meter, looks like he's being careful.
FOD (11x3mins)
Records same lactate reading (~4.3?) at 19kph and 20kph. The outliers on his best fit curve clearly look like 17kph and 19kph. Still wondering if the TM is accurate at 20kph, done quite a lot of treadmill calibration before and found they can be a bit out at very low/high speeds, even though it seems like they are well calibrated at everything in between.
RTJ still suggests Nomio effectively bumps your LT1/LT2 speed up a significant amount, consistent with other findings.
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RTJ still suggests Nomio effectively bumps your LT1/LT2 speed up a significant amount, consistent with other findings.
There’s an interesting comment to the YouTube video challenging the validity of the test due to the Nomio test being conducted 3 hours after the initial LT test. For anyone that knows more than I do, would they share their mind and give their opinion on whether there is truth in this? (comment quoted below)
“Hey Jake, obviously you may or may not catch this, but for others that are curious - the lab tests presented by nomio are very disingenuous. If you do the same session 3 hours later, blood lactate readings in the second session are always lower. This is not an indicator that the product is doing something productive. The first run increases muscle temperature, blood flow, and speeds how quickly your aerobic system ramps up the second time. With faster aerobic contribution at the same pace, you rely a bit less on anaerobic glycolysis, so less lactate is produced for that workload. After the first session, your muscles and heart also become temporarily better at shuttling and oxidising lactate (using it as fuel) and distributing it to other tissues that clear it. So for the same pace, blood lactate sits lower because clearance keeps up more easily. 3 hours is a window where this is at its highest. Which again, the skeptic in me says thats why they chose 3 hours. The only reason the levels would ever not be lower, is if you started the second session in a highly fatigued, poorly fuelled, dehydrated state. To say you are a ‘super responder’ to nomio based on this is absolutely f*cking wild, respectfully. Secondly, there is no evidence whatsoever that lowering lactate during training or even during a race is actually beneficial for physiological adaptation. Sorry for the negative comment - but I know that you only work with brands who you feel are genuinely beneficial. I have a PhD in this field of science and I personal feel that I have an obligation to let you and your audience know before they spend their hard earned money on something like this. Just because they are Scandinavian and have a lactate lab doesn’t mean they are good scientists - they are marketers selling a product.”
RTJ still suggests Nomio effectively bumps your LT1/LT2 speed up a significant amount, consistent with other findings.
If you do the same session 3 hours later, blood lactate readings in the second session are always lower.
... Secondly, there is no evidence whatsoever that lowering lactate during training or even during a race is actually beneficial for physiological adaptation.
Yeah same thoughts while watching, although I'm not qualified to make the claims that commenter has.
But...if you give someone the intervention (Nomio) first, then how long do you need to wait to be confident it's not still doing something when you test again later? Sounds like lactate testing over two sessions in same day might be flawed either way.
Also agree with second point - Alex Hutchinson went into good detail about that
I am not trying to gatekeep a 1:56 half marathon runner from using Nike Victory super spikes, but to say that they offer no real benefit at around 5 min/km pace, and their aggressiveness is noticeable in the legs the next day to the extent that it affects recovery and base building, which should be the main priority.
New RTJ video has dropped, I like the guy but he's looking for every excuse under the sun why he bonked so hard in Valencia - travel, illness, celiac disease (spoiler alert - he did a test and it came out negative), haemoglobin levels. Maybe you just went out too quick?
He had to be pulled off the course, then does several runs over the coming days including the next morning after the marathon, and then wonders why he's getting ill. The train harder gimmick is getting a bit old now.
He obviously went out too quick for what he was capable of doing that day, but I really think he just had a bad day. He didn't go out too quick for what his extensive training and racing indicated he was capable of on a day where he was on. It happens in the marathon. Maybe it's just as simple as that.
Floberg calling his 5k on a treadmill a PR is insane behavior
Just beyond obnoxious. He says he's entering a speed block. Maybe he's listening to the thread. Of course he could have started this two months ago and been in top 10k fitness by now, ready to build for a spring marathon. But he had to renovate his condo and run double marathons and such.
Forgetting that he has absolutely no knowledge of the content (NSM), an absolutely wild, car crash and almost satire video from Dr Will O'Connor today. White board, pen, smiley faces, Charlie from it's always sunny tribute? Highly entertaining, but I'm not sure in the way he intended. Tremendous stuff.
Forgetting that he has absolutely no knowledge of the content (NSM), an absolutely wild, car crash and almost satire video from Dr Will O'Connor today. White board, pen, smiley faces, Charlie from it's always sunny tribute? Highly entertaining, but I'm not sure in the way he intended. Tremendous stuff.
I'm surprised Dr Will O'Connor (PhD in endurance sports physiology, coach and former elite athlete) has kept the video up for 24 hours 🤣 every second it stays up he's losing credibility.
I'm surprised Dr Will O'Connor (PhD in endurance sports physiology, coach and former elite athlete) has kept the video up for 24 hours 🤣 every second it stays up he's losing credibility.
I'm guessing his target demographic isn't the letsrun crowd, but random innocent civilians ... and he doesn't want to lose face by taking something down.
Sure, they can read the comments on youtube, but those are from haters and fanboys .. Not from a Doctor that used to be an elite athletes!
Whilst I like RTJ I'm generally amazed at the amount of loyalty these YouTubers build up to the point opinions counter to the narrative are shot down. David Koresh would be proud.
I'm guessing his target demographic isn't the letsrun crowd, but random innocent civilians ... and he doesn't want to lose face by taking something down.
Sure, they can read the comments on youtube, but those are from haters and fanboys .. Not from a Doctor that used to be an elite athletes!
He's made a business decision?
Not really anything to do with the content, the whole thing and set up is just like wtf am I watching. Genuinely could be a satire attack on the whole YouTube world if I didn't know any better. It truly drives you to mad behaviour like this.
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