jesseriley wrote:
Dow -17% for the week, worst week since Bush Jr.
Something else trump beat Obama at.
The Trump stock market crash continues. Thanks a lot, Trump!
jesseriley wrote:
Dow -17% for the week, worst week since Bush Jr.
Something else trump beat Obama at.
The Trump stock market crash continues. Thanks a lot, Trump!
Smorbun wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
You don't need degrees in something to be an expert in that specific discipline. I am an expert in mathematics. Larry Ellison never was graduated but is an expert in computer stuff. Would you agree with that? Bill Gates was a drop-out but would you say he was not an expert in computer stuff? Steve Jobs too?
No, you are not an expert in mathematics. You are not Larry Ellison or Bill Gates. You are an idiot with a degree in accounting.
My stepson will be graduated very soon from one of the greatest universities in the world - the Univ. of T - He says I have helped him a lot with a number of proofs. How can you NOT call me a mathematician???
Sally Vix wrote:
Smorbun wrote:
No, you are not an expert in mathematics. You are not Larry Ellison or Bill Gates. You are an idiot with a degree in accounting.
My stepson will be graduated very soon from one of the greatest universities in the world - the Univ. of T - He says I have helped him a lot with a number of proofs. How can you NOT call me a mathematician???
You are headed down crazy road. I won't respond to craziness. I will respond to your stupidity, but I will not help enable craziness. Seek help.
All I’m celebrating is the safety net that’s being enacted as we speak, against the wishes of traitors & people who lack empathy.
Humiliating trump is just sort of a bonus.
Of course big business is always first to stick their hand out.
New poll: 87% of dems concerned about getting coronavirus; 66% of ‘pubs.
So much for the hoax strategy.
dump trump wrote:
Sanjay Gupta (neurosurgeon and medical reporter): “I’ve never seen anything like it. That was incredible to see this back-and-forth. First of all, the president said that this [antimalarial] drug was approved for coronavirus yesterday, it is not. He said there’s a lot of evidence to show how promising it is, there is a one 20-person study out of France that Dr. Tony Fauci described as ‘anecdotal.'”
Also note: China completed first testing of the antimalarial drug over a month ago. France is doing a followup study. Trump refuses to acknowledge China figured it out first. Be advised that the antimalarial drug IS NOT a cure. It alleviates/reduces symptoms, and improves recovery times.
I was pretty stunned when I saw it too. I've been watching daily MedCram videos since the outbreak first started in China. The doctor has been doing a series on the pandemic and there was one on the topic of drug treatments like levaquin and chloroquine.
So I immediately knew what the president was doing as I watched Tiny hawk this false hope. In the corner of my TV screen I could see the stock market start ticking up and up as the president spoke. It's just incredible that people still swallow what he's spewing.
Fat hurts wrote:
dump trump wrote:
Sanjay Gupta (neurosurgeon and medical reporter): “I’ve never seen anything like it. That was incredible to see this back-and-forth. First of all, the president said that this [antimalarial] drug was approved for coronavirus yesterday, it is not. He said there’s a lot of evidence to show how promising it is, there is a one 20-person study out of France that Dr. Tony Fauci described as ‘anecdotal.'”
Also note: China completed first testing of the antimalarial drug over a month ago. France is doing a followup study. Trump refuses to acknowledge China figured it out first. Be advised that the antimalarial drug IS NOT a cure. It alleviates/reduces symptoms, and improves recovery times.
I was pretty stunned when I saw it too. I've been watching daily MedCram videos since the outbreak first started in China. The doctor has been doing a series on the pandemic and there was one on the topic of drug treatments like levaquin and chloroquine.
So I immediately knew what the president was doing as I watched Tiny hawk this false hope. In the corner of my TV screen I could see the stock market start ticking up and up as the president spoke. It's just incredible that people still swallow what he's spewing.
Correction: chloroquine and Remdesivir.
A Pence staffer has tested positive. This unlikely to be the first coronavirus positive in the Trump Administration. Press secretary, Katie Miller, who is the wife of Stephen Miller, who is Trump's go boy for defending racist decrees.
Trump declares neither Pence and he got anywhere near that women.
Oops. Katie Miller has not been identified as the infected staffer. The name of the individual has not been identified.
Deaths today:
Germany - 24
USA - 42
France - 78
Switzerland - 13
UK - 33
Netherlands - 30
Belgium - 16
Sweden - 5
A reminder about how exponential growth works.
On March 12 it was reasonable to say that outside of Iran, Italy and Spain the death count was in the range of 1 - 5 people.
On March 16 (4 days later) it was reasonable to say that outside of Iran, Italy and Spain the death count was in the range of 4 - 20 people. Increase of 4x in 4 days.
Now, today on March 20 (another 4 days) it is reasonable to say that outside of Iran, Italy and Spain the death count is in the range of 13 - 40 people. An additional increase of 2.5x in 4 days.
The outside of "hot spots" daily death toll is now up in the ballpark of 900% in 8 days.
Texas doing "just splendidly"?
Seems a lot like California, NY etc., except maybe a few days behind.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/19/texas-governor-coronavirus-lockdown-orders-137691
“The traditional model that we have employed in the state of Texas for such a long time so effectively does not apply to an invisible disease that knows no geographic or jurisdictional boundaries,” Abbott, said at a press conference.
The state issued a public health disaster order, the first such order since 1901, according Abbott.
This was kind of a funny exchange. The reporter obviously got under Trump's skin, but then asked Trump an absolutely softball question, one you would expect from Fox News. Trump had his FDR moment ("you have nothing to fear but fear itself") presented to him on a platter, but he was too juvenile to seize it. He reverted to the bitter little boy that we see too often from him.
The governors (Democrats and Republicans)are really outshining the big man through this crisis. They're looking like leaders.
If Trump wins this fall, look for Cuomo to run in 2024.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/media/trump-rant-at-nbc-news-peter-alexander/index.html
Daily Update. All growth numbers are average compounded daily. Fatality rates are based on total diagnosed cases.
Daily case growth (%):
Mar 8: 16.7
Mar 9: 15.8
Mar 10: 15.3
Mar 11: 16.0
Mar 12: 16.6
Mar 13: 17.2
Mar 14: 17.1
Mar 15: 17.2
Mar 16: 16.9
Mar 17: 16.8
Mar 18: 16.8
Mar 19: 17.0
Mar 20: 17.1
Daily death growth (%):
Mar 8: 43.1
Mar 9: 34.0
Mar 10: 32.1
Mar 11: 31.0
Mar 12: 29.6
Mar 13: 28.7
Mar 14: 27.1
Mar 15: 26.8
Mar 16: 26.0
Mar 17: 25.4
Mar 18: 25.0
Mar 19: 24.4
Mar 20: 24.1
Fatality Rate (Cumulative deaths/cases)
Mar 8: 2.4%
Mar 9: 2.7%
Mar 10: 3.0%
Mar 11: 3.2%
Mar 12: 3.4%
Mar 13: 3.5%
Mar 14: 3.5%
Mar 15: 3.7%
Mar 16: 3.9%
Mar 17: 4.0%
Mar 18: 4.1%
Mar 19: 4.1%
Mar 20: 4.2%
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Note 1: Fatality rate continues to climb, even with rapidly climbing case numbers. Not a good sign for the notion that the fatality rate is really less than 1%. So far, 4.2% and climbing.
Note 2: Daily increase in case rates has bounced around 17 - 18% for the two weeks that I have been tracking. Daily increase in deaths has declined from around 25% to around 19%. At this point these two growth rates have nearly converged on a single day basis which is what you would expect. This suggests that the case numbers are reflective of actual growth in cases and not just a reflection of more testing going on.
Note 3: Sh!tty day. I really thought that case number growth would continue to tumble as it did on March 16 and 17. So far, the numbers don't support that hypothesis.
johnny99 wrote:
Texas doing "just splendidly"?
Seems a lot like California, NY etc., except maybe a few days behind.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/19/texas-governor-coronavirus-lockdown-orders-137691“The traditional model that we have employed in the state of Texas for such a long time so effectively does not apply to an invisible disease that knows no geographic or jurisdictional boundaries,” Abbott, said at a press conference.
The state issued a public health disaster order, the first such order since 1901, according Abbott.
Regardless of Red v Blue, your opinion of Trump or Abbott, this is great news. We are coming together to get this thing under control. Everybody should celebrate that.
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Much rougher times ahead but the states moving to stop this is the beginning of sanity and hope.
very bad day in the big 3: very large increase of deaths.
I'll pick out a couple of pieces of more positive news tho.
In the big 3 the only positive is that in Iran daily deaths had their third straight day of the same count. I hope they are submitting accurate data.
The only other positive I see in today's data is that *outside* the big 3, deaths had a surprisingly light day. 315, vs 311 the day prior. Just a 1% growth rate.
In the past I have been talking about how the numbers from the big 3 were improving...today it flipped and the big 3 were awful but the rest of the world was surprisingly safe.
But that's just one day and each day can see wide variation. The hope is that if countries that don't tip into Iran, Italy, Spain spirals can get through this ok. Maybe these national shutdowns and higher test levels will keep the rest of the world from Italy-Spain-Iran status.
Hope didn't work today in Italy and Spain.
On to tomorrow.
agip wrote:
very bad day in the big 3: very large increase of deaths.
I'll pick out a couple of pieces of more positive news tho.
In the big 3 the only positive is that in Iran daily deaths had their third straight day of the same count. I hope they are submitting accurate data.
The only other positive I see in today's data is that *outside* the big 3, deaths had a surprisingly light day. 315, vs 311 the day prior. Just a 1% growth rate.
In the past I have been talking about how the numbers from the big 3 were improving...today it flipped and the big 3 were awful but the rest of the world was surprisingly safe.
But that's just one day and each day can see wide variation. The hope is that if countries that don't tip into Iran, Italy, Spain spirals can get through this ok. Maybe these national shutdowns and higher test levels will keep the rest of the world from Italy-Spain-Iran status.
Hope didn't work today in Italy and Spain.
On to tomorrow.
Why do you keep imagining your opinion is necessary for others to understand what is happening here? You aren't an epidemiologist or any kind of health expert, or - in respect of the economic issues - a business or economic analyst. You don't refer to anything the experts have to say about this crisis and you don't rely on their analysis for your own conclusions. Apparently their views are of no interest or even relevance as far as you are concerned. The statistics on the crisis are regularly updated by official sources. Yours are redundant. So what do you think you are offering with your absorption in your own numeracy - because that is all it is?
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Ciro wrote:
“Under US law, it is ILLEGAL for members of Congress to trade based on non-public information gathered during their official duties”
If there is a case to answer they should not get away with it. Evidence suggests they dropped stocks immediately AFTER a senate briefing, that’s critical, regardless of your own personal opinion or spin.
Who was in this briefing that knew for a fact that the market was going to crash and how did he know that?
Read the BBC article I posted, the details are included.
P wrote:
Daily Update. All growth numbers are average compounded daily. Fatality rates are based on total diagnosed cases.
Daily case growth (%):
Mar 8: 16.7
Mar 9: 15.8
Mar 10: 15.3
Mar 11: 16.0
Mar 12: 16.6
Mar 13: 17.2
Mar 14: 17.1
Mar 15: 17.2
Mar 16: 16.9
Mar 17: 16.8
Mar 18: 16.8
Mar 19: 17.0
Mar 20: 17.1
Daily death growth (%):
Mar 8: 43.1
Mar 9: 34.0
Mar 10: 32.1
Mar 11: 31.0
Mar 12: 29.6
Mar 13: 28.7
Mar 14: 27.1
Mar 15: 26.8
Mar 16: 26.0
Mar 17: 25.4
Mar 18: 25.0
Mar 19: 24.4
Mar 20: 24.1
Fatality Rate (Cumulative deaths/cases)
Mar 8: 2.4%
Mar 9: 2.7%
Mar 10: 3.0%
Mar 11: 3.2%
Mar 12: 3.4%
Mar 13: 3.5%
Mar 14: 3.5%
Mar 15: 3.7%
Mar 16: 3.9%
Mar 17: 4.0%
Mar 18: 4.1%
Mar 19: 4.1%
Mar 20: 4.2%
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Note 1: Fatality rate continues to climb, even with rapidly climbing case numbers. Not a good sign for the notion that the fatality rate is really less than 1%. So far, 4.2% and climbing.
Note 2: Daily increase in case rates has bounced around 17 - 18% for the two weeks that I have been tracking. Daily increase in deaths has declined from around 25% to around 19%. At this point these two growth rates have nearly converged on a single day basis which is what you would expect. This suggests that the case numbers are reflective of actual growth in cases and not just a reflection of more testing going on.
Note 3: Sh!tty day. I really thought that case number growth would continue to tumble as it did on March 16 and 17. So far, the numbers don't support that hypothesis.
The numbers out of Italy today were especially alarming, you’d think they’d be trending down by now and they aren’t.
Ciro wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Who was in this briefing that knew for a fact that the market was going to crash and how did he know that?
Read the BBC article I posted, the details are included.
SDSU as well as the original BBC article I included with details, even Tucker Carlson agrees.
This is shady and very likely illegal, why are you supporting that?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/must-resign-senate-fox-news-030418608.html