Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

And now for the numbers.

Looking at the cumulative totals today. All numbers are for the entire world excluding China.

Cumulative Cases (#), Daily growth (%):

Mar 7: 24,877, N/A

Mar 8: 29,020, 16.7

Mar 9: 33,339, 14.9

Mar 10: 38,119, 14.3

Mar 11: 45,028, 18.1

Mar 12: 53,714, 19.3

Mar 13: 64,521, 20.1

Mar 14: 75,265, 16.7

Mar 15: 88,264, 17.3

Mar 16: 101,419, 14.9

Cumulative Deaths (#), Daily growth (%):

Mar 7: 492, N/A

Mar 8: 704, 43.1

Mar 9: 884, 25.6

Mar 10: 1,133, 28.2

Mar 11: 1,449, 27.9

Mar 12: 1,801, 24,3

Mar 13: 2,239, 24.3

Mar 14: 2,632, 17.6

Mar 15: 3,295, 25.2

Mar 16: 3,929, 19.2

Fatality Rate (Cumulative deaths/cases)

Mar 8: 2.4%

Mar 9: 2.7%

Mar 10: 3.0%

Mar 11: 3.2%

Mar 12: 3.4%

Mar 13: 3.5%

Mar 14: 3.5%

Mar 15: 3.7%

Mar 16: 3.9%

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Notes:

1) I, along with every person who possesses both a heart and a brain, has been looking at these types of numbers and desperately wishing for the day when the growth rates will begin to drop. Could today be that day? Cases; 14.9% daily increase from yesterday's 17.3%. Deaths; 19.2% daily increase from yesterday's 25.2%. It is only one day but let's hope the severe societal/economic measures that nations and states have been putting in place are finally going to get us "off the curve."

2) Note that the incubation period for COVID-19 has been estimated to be as low as 5 days to as high as 24 days. Nobody is too sure on this one. Assuming that it is 10 - 15 days (nothing to back this up), then it would be about 10 - 15 days AFTER the imposition of strict containment measures for the number of new symptomatic cases showing up to reflect that by slowing down. Lockdowns in Italy started about 10 days ago. Hopefully we see a significant slowdown in the growth of cases right about now. Rest of world to follow.

3) Take a look at the cumulative deaths for today (Mar 16) vs two days ago (Mar 14). The raw numbers are 3,929 v 2,632. That means that the # of deaths worldwide have grown by 50% IN TWO DAYS! Take a minute to let that sink in.

4) Fatality rare continues to climb - now up to 3.9%. Not happy news.

5) Take a look at the total number of cases today vs Mar 7. The numbers are 101,419 vs 24,877. That means that 75% of ALL cases were only detected in the last 9 days! Very few of these have run their course (0 - 9 days old) which means that the fatality rate among diagnosed cases is much, much higher than 3.9%.

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Some happy news. Some not so happy. The most important news is the slowdown in the rate of increase. It is only one day but that number is nearly the only thing that matters. Fingers crossed.

The election will be called and Trump will be a lame duck before the polls close on the west coast.

I agree that Trump was dealt a bad hand with this virus.

Then he tried to bluff and has been called on it.

The states and local governments are taking all of the action right now.

Trump tasked Mnuchin to negotiate with Pelosi because Trump is too childish and petty to talk to her.

No one feels confident that McConnell will take speedy action.

Trump needs to be elbowed out the way for real leaders to help this country.

Thanks, comrade. How’s that devalued ruble treating you?

It's not fair to blame trump for the virus, but on the other hand, all of his weaknesses came to the front during it. And he made it worse by lying and pushing the scientists aside.

But bottom line, the europeans are having much worse experiences than we are.

agip wrote:

It's not fair to blame trump for the virus, but on the other hand, all of his weaknesses came to the front during it. And he made it worse by lying and pushing the scientists aside.

But bottom line, the europeans are having much worse experiences than we are.

Depends on the European country. Plus comparisons at this stage are a bit meaningless.

Trump botched this.

Anecdote: Six counties in the Bay Area are instituting a "shelter in place" order to begin at midnight tonight. Look it up if you are interested in details. Basically, we are shutting down to slow this thing down.

This is exactly what I have been calling for since I began to look at the numbers seriously. I am thrilled that we are starting to wake up to what is going on here.

As usual, humanity can be counted on to do the right thing (after all other possibilities are exhausted) - with apologies to Winston Churchill (or Abba Eban or ... )

Would you be able to provide the US numbers? Thanks.

L L wrote:

The election will be called and Trump will be a lame duck before the polls close on the west coast.

I agree that Trump was dealt a bad hand with this virus.

Then he tried to bluff and has been called on it.

The states and local governments are taking all of the action right now.

Trump tasked Mnuchin to negotiate with Pelosi because Trump is too childish and petty to talk to her.

No one feels confident that McConnell will take speedy action.

Trump needs to be elbowed out the way for real leaders to help this country.

Another post saved for election night.

However well written, the fact remains that Trump supporters and semi-supporters do not address his demonstrable shortcomings as POTUS. Or personal bizarreness.

They invariably shift to the Clintons, Obama, Biden &Son or other "enemy" of Donald and chew on them instead.

That's because they can't find enough positive personal or presidential qualities about Trump to address. Such qualities do not exist.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Smorbun wrote:

If you take this challenge - stick around for 2 weeks after Trump loses so you get what's coming to you. You agree to do that, then I will take the Runningart challenge. You should not be taking the Runningart challenge. Makes no sense for you to do it. Just proves you are a coward.

Okay, we have a deal. You do the the Runningart challenge and ban yourself forever with a Trump win.

Let's be clear here. You will stick around for 2 weeks after Trump loses. Also, the reason you stick around is to take what's coming to you. If that is your understanding, them I agree to the terms. Now, how do you prove you have hung around? You will need to answer in some way when you are ridiculed.

agip wrote:

It's not fair to blame trump for the virus, but on the other hand, all of his weaknesses came to the front during it. And he made it worse by lying and pushing the scientists aside.

He's literally been going before the public everyday for press conferences with the best medical experts in the world at his side...

agip wrote:

the market needs a massive infrastructure bill

and

some good news on the disease front

The best thing we can do for the market is to remove uncertainty.

One way we can do that is for Biden and Sanders to drop out of the race and endorse Trump.

They will be forever praised for their heroic act of putting country over their political ambition.

semsurrrrr wrote:

agip wrote:

It's not fair to blame trump for the virus, but on the other hand, all of his weaknesses came to the front during it. And he made it worse by lying and pushing the scientists aside.

He's literally been going before the public everyday for press conferences with the best medical experts in the world at his side...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka-9b3ih7D4

Trump literally pushed one of those medical experts aside at a press conference because the expert was telling the truth about our lack of testing kits. Instead of the truth, Trump insisted anyone who wanted a test could get one. Which was completely false. A complete microcosm of trump.

And there are many more examples, like when he sent Kudlow out to tell people the virus was cornered and over.

Forgotten Man wrote:

agip wrote:

the market needs a massive infrastructure bill

and

some good news on the disease front

The best thing we can do for the market is to remove uncertainty.

One way we can do that is for Biden and Sanders to drop out of the race and endorse Trump.

They will be forever praised for their heroic act of putting country over their political ambition.

LOL, well played ??

Forgotten Man wrote:

agip wrote:

the market needs a massive infrastructure bill

and

some good news on the disease front

The best thing we can do for the market is to remove uncertainty.

One way we can do that is for Biden and Sanders to drop out of the race and endorse Trump.

They will be forever praised for their heroic act of putting country over their political ambition.

OR

trump and pence drop out in shame after all their failures, and let Nancy be president, to start early on the inevitable Democrat administration next year. Because every freaking time, the Rs leave the country in a mess and a D president has to come in an fix it. Might as well start now.

Always entertaining to hear from the nutbag contingent. Thanks.

agip wrote:

Forgotten Man wrote:

The best thing we can do for the market is to remove uncertainty.

One way we can do that is for Biden and Sanders to drop out of the race and endorse Trump.

They will be forever praised for their heroic act of putting country over their political ambition.

OR

trump and pence drop out in shame after all their failures, and let Nancy be president, to start early on the inevitable Democrat administration next year. Because every freaking time, the Rs leave the country in a mess and a D president has to come in an fix it. Might as well start now.

Pretty sure the forgotten man is using satire, he does so well.

Smorbun wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Okay, we have a deal. You do the the Runningart challenge and ban yourself forever with a Trump win.

Let's be clear here. You will stick around for 2 weeks after Trump loses. Also, the reason you stick around is to take what's coming to you. If that is your understanding, them I agree to the terms. Now, how do you prove you have hung around? You will need to answer in some way when you are ridiculed.

Sourbuns, I already agreed to your proposal. Now, if you lose, you ban yourself forever.

Why are you saving my posts for election night when you’ve already said you will hide in shame when Trump loses and won’t be in a position to retort on my posts?