I totally missed this:
Trump slamming Sessions in public again, over the weekend.
How is Sessions still at work? Dude has to be ordering some boxes to carry his stuff home in.
Gives up his senate seat...for this?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/888726438265966592
Hate to break it to you, but your GOP leaders not only believe it they are behind retaliatory sanction legislation.
exthrower wrote:
Jeez Eric...You should write spy novels...lol....
Lefties all along have alledged Trump campaign colluded with Russia to get Trump elected...
Still no evidence of that....Oh well.....
How long will you dummies keep beating this dead horse?
You're starting to sound ridiculous/insane.....
Better stop watching CNN...
Tune in FOX and get some reality....
Sessions is no different than Spicer. Their sole purpose was to serve as loyal dogs and promote Trump 24/7. I don't think they failed to understand that, but they underestimate how difficult or impossible it would be to defend their master.
eric a blair wrote:
I totally missed this:
Trump slamming Sessions in public again, over the weekend.
How is Sessions still at work? Dude has to be ordering some boxes to carry his stuff home in.
Gives up his senate seat...for this?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/888726438265966592
Meanwhile Democrats are destroying more hard drives to cover up their corrupt behavior, but no hyperventilating stories about that.
eric a blair wrote:
I totally missed this:
Trump slamming Sessions in public again, over the weekend.
How is Sessions still at work? Dude has to be ordering some boxes to carry his stuff home in.
Gives up his senate seat...for this?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/888726438265966592
If I were Jeff Sessions, I would see this as a gift from Heaven. Who wants to be hitched to Trump's fading star at this point? Jeff Sessions is 70 years old...he doesn't need this job. He can always go back to the Keebler Tree and make some cookies. Best to put distance between him and the President as soon as possible.
eric a blair wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:Also, he will not be under oath.
I wonder if that means he can lie with impunity.
Unlike Trump, Kushner does seem to be getting excellent legal representation. You never hear him speak publicly. He has been very careful throughout all of this. He probably learned a lot from his father's dirty dealings and subsequent conviction.
lying to congress is a crime
Q: What are the rules about lying to Congress?
A: Glad you asked. If you are testifying in front of Congress sometime soon, and are wondering how far you can bend the truth, there are a two key statutes governing perjury you need to be aware of: U.S. Code sections 1621 and 1001 of Title 18.
Section 1621 covers general perjury, and stipulates that anyone who "willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true" is guilty of perjury and shall be fined or imprisoned up to five years, or both. Section 1001 covers false statements more generally, without requiring an oath. The section stipulates that "whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the government of the United States, knowingly and willfully" falsifies or conceals information, including before a congressional committee's inquiry, may also be fined or imprisoned up to five years.
Thanks for the clarification on that. I don't believe Kushner will think he has a free pass because of Trump's pardon powers unless Trump has already pardoned him secretly.
I would expect a lot of "I don't recall" kind of answers. That's what a smart witness says when they don't want to tell the truth but also don't want to be caught in a lie. Kushner appears to be well coached.
I also wonder if Mueller will have access to the transcripts of these closed proceedings.
Fat hurts wrote:
I don't believe Kushner will think he has a free pass because of Trump's pardon powers unless Trump has already pardoned him secretly.
Well he's Trump's son-in-law and they do everything secretly anyway. That's what they are accused of here.
So, Kushner should feel he has a free pass to straight up lie.
He doesn't even has to say "I don't recall".
He can definitively say nothing happened or make up alternative facts on the spot.
I'm afraid they may go full force lie now and pardon later, if need be.
DiscoGary wrote:
Meanwhile Democrats are destroying more hard drives to cover up their corrupt behavior, but no hyperventilating stories about that.
Did you just make that up?
I mean, if there are no stories on it, then you made it up.
If you read it somewhere, then there are stories on it.
L L wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:I don't believe Kushner will think he has a free pass because of Trump's pardon powers unless Trump has already pardoned him secretly.
Well he's Trump's son-in-law and they do everything secretly anyway. That's what they are accused of here.
So, Kushner should feel he has a free pass to straight up lie.
He doesn't even has to say "I don't recall".
He can definitively say nothing happened or make up alternative facts on the spot.
I'm afraid they may go full force lie now and pardon later, if need be.
not so easy
there was a Russian intelligence officer in the room. With Jr, Kush and Manafort. Very likely he taped the conversation. And that goes for all this - if something happened between the Russians and the trumpers...the Russians know the truth and have evidence. They can deploy that as they wish, or hold it for secret leverage.
and also manafort...that guy has millions of reasons to rat out the trumpers. He could flip and testify against all the trumpers.
Plus inevitably these days there are email trails that could come to llight.
not so easy for Kushner to lie his way out. And he knows that Trump will choose Jr over him if it comes down to that.
L L wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:I don't believe Kushner will think he has a free pass because of Trump's pardon powers unless Trump has already pardoned him secretly.
Well he's Trump's son-in-law and they do everything secretly anyway. That's what they are accused of here.
So, Kushner should feel he has a free pass to straight up lie.
He doesn't even has to say "I don't recall".
He can definitively say nothing happened or make up alternative facts on the spot.
I'm afraid they may go full force lie now and pardon later, if need be.
That requires Kushner to have absolute trust in Donald Trump. I just don't see it. I think Kushner will hedge his bets.
Trump will pardon them all if they lie for him and get caught and prosecuted.
2015 called...
DiscoGary wrote:
Meanwhile Democrats are destroying more hard drives to cover up their corrupt behavior, but no hyperventilating stories about that.
Not to take cheap shots, but Kushner sounds like a 12 year old. He probably played the quiet loyal son-in-law, but surely he's got something up his sleeve. If he goes down he will take the Trump clan down with him.
I love to just sit back and read post after post defaming Trump. Then I'll look back at much earlier posts from the beginning and first half of this thread. The same posters saying the same types of things, with history showing that they were wrong. Honestly, do these posters even realize how crazy they sounded then and equally negative and ridiculous they sound now? In both cases, wrong. This is probly why their side of the political aisle keeps losing elections, even as they scream how "doomed" Trump and his side are.
TroLLminator wrote:
2015 called...
DiscoGary wrote:Meanwhile Democrats are destroying more hard drives to cover up their corrupt behavior, but no hyperventilating stories about that.
"I can't remember" (said over 50 times by Hillary Clinton, when being questioned about her email server).
Hilarious. Hardly any coverage.
Trump shakes hands with someone- front page news on CNN. LOL
observatory wrote:
I love to just sit back and read post after post defaming Trump. Then I'll look back at much earlier posts from the beginning and first half of this thread. The same posters saying the same types of things, with history showing that they were wrong. Honestly, do these posters even realize how crazy they sounded then and equally negative and ridiculous they sound now? In both cases, wrong. This is probly why their side of the political aisle keeps losing elections, even as they scream how "doomed" Trump and his side are.
huh?
not sure you've noticed, but the trump train is not a healthy vehicle. Flynn fired. Spicer gone. manafort gone. Sessions on way out. Priebus probably gone soon. Six investigations. colossal legislative failure with health care. Poland and Saudi given the green light by trump to crush democracy efforts so they have. least popular elected president in modern times. at least six investigations. Demoralized staff. And all this smoke about collusion turns out to be trueish - we know the very highest levels of the trump campaign actually met with russian intel agents in an effort to collude. I mean think about that. They met with a russian intel agent. To collude. You don't care, but you will, when you get the trump drugs out of your system. Give it a year or two.
You have it backwards. Everything we said about trump is coming true. Totally predictable. It's been 6 months and his admin is burning down.
I wish I had been wrong and Trump were succssful. But he's not.
observatory wrote:
I love to just sit back and read post after post defaming Trump. Then I'll look back at much earlier posts from the beginning and first half of this thread. The same posters saying the same types of things, with history showing that they were wrong. Honestly, do these posters even realize how crazy they sounded then and equally negative and ridiculous they sound now? In both cases, wrong. This is probly why their side of the political aisle keeps losing elections, even as they scream how "doomed" Trump and his side are.
I'd be interested to hear about when I was wrong. Do you have any examples?
Fat hurts wrote:
I'd be interested to hear about when I was wrong. Do you have any examples?
lol u really are a bloody idiot
Boogie Down Bronx wrote:
Trump is a snake oil salesman.
Really? And you just figured this out?