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Because he is not arguing in good faith. Antivaxxers specialize in arguing in bad faith

Ah, so countries around the worldhad 2020 excess death spikes coincidentally but definitely not because of COVID since it's just the flu?

The EuroMOMO data has, for some time, come with an "Cautionary Note" and extended explanation of the hazards of over-interpreting accumulated excess death numbers.

When Campbell does exactly what they say is sketchy practice, he's not so much "making stuff up out of thin air", as showing himself to be untrustworthy. This seems to be a common trait in the skeptosphere, that is, talking about the convenient evidence and ignoring the contrary evidence, which is a lousy way to do science.

Some flu that!

Covid was just a mild flu year, with everything flu related relabeled "Covid" combined with all the deaths from the CDC treatment protocols.

scientificamerican.com

Flu Has Disappeared for More Than a Year

Katie Peek

Mask wearing, social distancing and other steps to stop COVID-19 have also curtailed influenza

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As Scientific American reported in November 2020, the drop-off in flu numbers following COVID’s arrival was swift and global. Since then, cases have stayed remarkably low. “There’s just no flu circulating,” says Greg Poland, who has studied the disease at the Mayo Clinic for decades. The U.S. saw about 700 deaths from influenza during the 2020–2021 season. In comparison, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates there were approximately 22,000 U.S. deaths in the prior season and 34,000 deaths two seasons ago.

Did you even look at the data? Why does e.g. Ireland show no excess deaths while Germany shows some despite Ireland being higher vax% than Germany?

Israel with no excess mortality despite giving tons of boosters?

This is (sadly) normal winter flu/other viral deaths. As usual the grifter is trying to spin some tale but there's no correlation with vaccine % which should.... uh.. probably be the first thing you checked?

When you spoon feed yourself with youtube videos, you are gonna be misled.

If you're unhappy with these excess death trends, I hope you're excited about improvements in flu vaccines to come (mRNA!)!

Shocking that a vaccine targeted to the COVID spike protein worked so well against the flu! Immunologists are BAFFLED

I'm feeling triggered.

haha. Since far left loonies are projecting onto sane people I thought I'd try it out. Did I use that correctly in a sentence? Or should it be...

I'm feeling like triggered.

How about, don't triggered me, bro.

The bivalent booster substantiallyincreases T-cell responses to new variants. Great news!

biorxiv.org

Waning Immunity Against XBB.1.5 Following Bivalent mRNA Boosters

The SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant has continued to evolve. XBB is a recombinant between two BA.2 sublineages, XBB.1 includes the G252V mutation, and XBB.1.5 includes the G252V and F486P mutations. XBB.1.5 has rapidly increased i...

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The vaccine wasn't widely available until the end of the 2020-2021 flu season. The drop in flu deaths that year was probably driven by the other covid mitigation measures people were taking (masking, distancing, hand washing, etc).

There are at least two prominent phenomena in the EuroMOMO data.

1) There's a higher and arguably trending "background" excess death rate. When one takes cumulative deaths, summing a small increase in average weekly deaths over 52 weeks, it can be a big number. Cumulative counts accumulate small errors in the baseline as well as any real effect, so care must be used in interpretation. In particular the baselines are all interpolated from 2015-2019 baseline years, so trend errors are magnified as get further from the baseline years. Were there a background problem with vaccine side effects, this is plausibly what it would look like, but there are other factors that are at least as likely manifest.

2) There is a "spike" at the end of last year and into 2023. This is what one might expect from something like a bad winter flu season. It is particularly noticeable in England and Germany, both of which have reported a significant "tripledemic" spike in covid, influenza, and rsv cases, so some combination of these seems the most reasonable explanation of that artifact.

apnews.com

'Diamond' of pro-Trump commentary duo dies of heart disease

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Lynette Hardaway, a zealous supporter of former President Donald Trump whose death had prompted widespread speculation over its cause, died earlier this month of a heart condition, according to a death ce...

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We just never used to see this. Young people in their early 50s dying suddenly of heart disease. This never happened before the vaccine and every death has to be highlighted immediately as being due to the vaccine.

The mRNA flu vaccine will probably generate better precipitating antibodies and T cell response. But it doesn’t solve the problem of being able to predict the correct flu strains every year. (One of the main obstacles to improving efficacy of the flu vaccine is the multitude of strains that circulate… there are literally dozens). I tried to enroll in one of their clinical trials, but since I work in healthcare and have gotten a yearly flu vaccine, I fell into their exclusion criteria.

The COVID mitigation / masking efforts for 2 years actually caused 2 of the Flu B strains to (probably) go extinct. It’s not nearly as contagious as Covid.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9414795/

Its time for the Brojos to start a survey:

Vaccinated people: What do you believe would have happened to you if you remained unvaccinated ? Do you regret your decision ?

Unvaccinated people: What do you believe would have happened to you if you took the vaccine ? Do you regret your decision ?

I will not start this in a separate thread, because it would be immediately deleted.

How did the CDC spike excess deaths in Sweden?

Draw your own conclusions.

express.co.uk

Death rates soar in Western world as healthcare teeters on knife-edge

Ollie Corfe

Over 650,000 total deaths were registered in the UK in 2022 - nine percent more than in 2019 - describing one of the highest excess death rates of the past 50 years, reflecting an alarming trend across the developed world.

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