Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Racket wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Trump is constructing another country within the US, made in his own perverse image.

Amusing, but false.

This is not the work of Donald Trump but rather the result of years of changing demographics and attitudes towards a whole host of issues.

Trump is very likely mentally handicapped at this point and I'd be surprised if he could tie his shoes, let alone instigate a cultural paradigm shift of such magnitude in the US, but it's a lot easier to blame Trump because it excuses us from any action.

Trump is a bundle of projections to his followers and so gives that significant demographic a cultural "home" that both unifies them and separates them from other Americans.

But you are also right, that in himself he is a ridiculous, inferior and inadequate human being - but then so was Hitler. However, in expressing and acting out the views that he has he gives those who think like him (and I use the word "think" advisedly) a shared identity, while at the same time lending an ugly legitimacy to ignorance and prejudice. As Hitler also did for Germans in the 30's.

Interesting that mini-Trump lied about releasing his tax returns as mayor and has filed an extension to release his current return until after Super Tuesday.

I hope you Bloomberg voters realize before it’s too late that his is Trumpesque.

Shared identity is an immensely powerful motivator that we should seek to restore in productive and positive ways instead of herpty derping over "woke culture" (borrowing from agip here since I'm too lazy to laundry list all the components of critical theories) and a dozen other things.

As for Trump being Hitler, there's hardly any logical realistic comparison that I can see. The Germans did not invent, nor do they have a patent on, populist ideas.

moderates suck wrote:

agip wrote:

I would just *love* to see you tell these lawmakers to their faces that they are endorsing a racist.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/politics/michael-bloomberg-congressional-black-caucus-endorsements/index.html

Why? I would have no issue pointint out his racist record to anybody.

Id like to see you explain why he is acceptable to the people who were victims of his unconstitutional and racist policies.

I was expecting BB to explain that but he blew it, period. I'm not sure why he flopped so terribly last night - nerves or maybe he's not accustomed to people firing back at him in person... either way this was a pretty bad showing. I do hope he keeps spending his millions on the effective ads though.

Warren's performance was top notch. She is 100% potus material, poise, intellect, leadership... it's really sad she's not doing as well as Bernie. What was truly sad about last night though was the crowd. There was a bit of a WWE feel, like they were hungry for drama and entertainment. If the left is also leaning that way then serious and qualified contenders like Warren won't make it.

And of course the lowest character potus of all time is gloating this morning, he can't help himself.

Trump isn't Hitler - he doesn't have an ideology - but like Hitler he has allowed and even fostered through his own comments, actions and policies, the increasing expression of ideas and beliefs that go beyond populism to warrant being described as prejudice. Hitler was a white supremacist; so is Trump. His followers respond to that.

moderates suck wrote:

agip wrote:

I would just *love* to see you tell these lawmakers to their faces that they are endorsing a racist.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/politics/michael-bloomberg-congressional-black-caucus-endorsements/index.html

Why? I would have no issue pointint out his racist record to anybody.

Id like to see you explain why he is acceptable to the people who were victims of his unconstitutional and racist policies.

Why? Because you'd be calling them Uncle Toms, big house negroes, etc. I don't think they'd take kindly to your words.

and we'll get five more years of this, Dems. Great stuff. Really well done. Super organized primary and debate season.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-20/cuba-deportation-castro-political-asylum

that debate was some of the worst modern politics I've seen in recent years. The questions were mostly lame and personal, there were no foreign policy questions, and most of the big questions of the day were not even touched on.

Why is this country so awful at things? Why are we so freaking stupid?

Why don't the candidates stand up together and say 'we'd rather talk about the importance of NATO, the independence of the DOJ and the national debt than BB's NDAs and Amy's forgetting one person's name.

agip wrote:

and we'll get five more years of this, Dems. Great stuff. Really well done. Super organized primary and debate season.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-02-20/cuba-deportation-castro-political-asylum

ALL of the main Dem candidates are polling ahead of Trump. It will only get worse as support solidifies around a single candidate.

Alan

agip wrote:

that debate was some of the worst modern politics I've seen in recent years. The questions were mostly lame and personal, there were no foreign policy questions, and most of the big questions of the day were not even touched on.

Why is this country so awful at things? Why are we so freaking stupid?

Why don't the candidates stand up together and say 'we'd rather talk about the importance of NATO, the independence of the DOJ and the national debt than BB's NDAs and Amy's forgetting one person's name.

Why doesn't everybody just agree with agip? His life would be so much easier that way. We should really just put him in charge.

agip wrote:

that debate was some of the worst modern politics I've seen in recent years. The questions were mostly lame and personal, there were no foreign policy questions, and most of the big questions of the day were not even touched on.

Why is this country so awful at things? Why are we so freaking stupid?

Why don't the candidates stand up together and say 'we'd rather talk about the importance of NATO, the independence of the DOJ and the national debt than BB's NDAs and Amy's forgetting one person's name.

Have you not been following politics lately?

It’s a reality TV show now.

agip wrote:

moderates suck wrote:

Why? I would have no issue pointint out his racist record to anybody.

Id like to see you explain why he is acceptable to the people who were victims of his unconstitutional and racist policies.

Why? Because you'd be calling them Uncle Toms, big house negroes, etc. I don't think they'd take kindly to your words.

You are ridiculous. You are the person who wants to call names. I am just pointing out his record.

You are somehow trying to shift this to being about me because you inow his record is nit defensible.

Yosingleryz wrote:

agip wrote:

that debate was some of the worst modern politics I've seen in recent years. The questions were mostly lame and personal, there were no foreign policy questions, and most of the big questions of the day were not even touched on.

Why is this country so awful at things? Why are we so freaking stupid?

Why don't the candidates stand up together and say 'we'd rather talk about the importance of NATO, the independence of the DOJ and the national debt than BB's NDAs and Amy's forgetting one person's name.

Have you not been following politics lately?

It’s a reality TV show now.

yeah I think I was lulled into tranquility by Obama...that the system, as bad as it is, could put forward BHO and elect him made me feel that it would all turn out ok. But now we have Trump, literally the worst president in generations, and this bad field of Dems. The system is not working.

You're just mad because Bloomberg got destroyed.

moderates suck wrote:

You're just mad because Bloomberg got destroyed.

well a little, because it looked like he might be a solution to beating Sanders and therefore trump.

but I am not a fan of any of these dems. I'll probably vote for biden in my primary, but I'm just going to vote for whatever D is nominated.

But I was never a big bberg fan.

agip wrote:

that debate was some of the worst modern politics I've seen in recent years. The questions were mostly lame and personal, there were no foreign policy questions, and most of the big questions of the day were not even touched on.

Why is this country so awful at things? Why are we so freaking stupid?

Why don't the candidates stand up together and say 'we'd rather talk about the importance of NATO, the independence of the DOJ and the national debt than BB's NDAs and Amy's forgetting one person's name.

It was pretty awful, but these debates are designed to get viewers, so they try to make them entertaining. It played well into the idea that the left is dysfunctional. The RNC did the same thing in their primary, all debates were cringe worthy.

agip wrote:

moderates suck wrote:

You're just mad because Bloomberg got destroyed.

well a little, because it looked like he might be a solution to beating Sanders and therefore trump.

but I am not a fan of any of these dems. I'll probably vote for biden in my primary, but I'm just going to vote for whatever D is nominated.

But I was never a big bberg fan.

I am very disappointed at his performance, he simply sucked. He is clearly serious about this with all his spending but really, couldn't he have paid a couple hundred thousand to prepare for the debate?

Trollminator wrote:

agip wrote:

that debate was some of the worst modern politics I've seen in recent years. The questions were mostly lame and personal, there were no foreign policy questions, and most of the big questions of the day were not even touched on.

Why is this country so awful at things? Why are we so freaking stupid?

Why don't the candidates stand up together and say 'we'd rather talk about the importance of NATO, the independence of the DOJ and the national debt than BB's NDAs and Amy's forgetting one person's name.

It was pretty awful, but these debates are designed to get viewers, so they try to make them entertaining. It played well into the idea that the left is dysfunctional. The RNC did the same thing in their primary, all debates were cringe worthy.

interesting to compare the R debates to the D debates. Every one of the Rs lied and lied and lied..they were all completely dishonest and absurd.

But they seemed to be having a good time. These Dems are honest but man they are downers. Not a happy warrior among them. This is not a winning formula. You have to seem like you are having a good time campaigning. Not one of them does that. Yang did, I suppose.