Esterhazy wrote:
Those who believe a Gallup poll is "data" are the same people who believe Bloomberg news. Which part of the electorate is represented in that 90% of allegedly content Americans? Which part of those who support Bernie Sanders? Just admit that you don't care about those people and don't think they deserve a say. But don't worry too much. Soon enough they will have even less of a say than they do now.
Bloomberg2020: Our Oligarch is richer than your oligarch!
Thanks for an honest answer.
For me, it's anyone but Trump... yes, anyone.
However, I am almost positive we will see Bernie winning the nomination... my fear with him is the obvious reason.. Trump will brand him as a socialist and will get a much larger turnout than would happen otherwise... and the extra turn out will be anti-socialist people and trump will again win and ruin the US and probably the world.
My primary vote will go to either Amy or Pete.... neither has a chance.
person who agrees..... wrote:
Thanks for an honest answer.
For me, it's anyone but Trump... yes, anyone.
However, I am almost positive we will see Bernie winning the nomination... my fear with him is the obvious reason.. Trump will brand him as a socialist and will get a much larger turnout than would happen otherwise... and the extra turn out will be anti-socialist people and trump will again win and ruin the US and probably the world.
My primary vote will go to either Amy or Pete.... neither has a chance.
I would very likely vote for either Amy or Pete if they were the nominee.
Trump is going to brand the Democratic nominee as a socialist regardless of who it is.
If you have a Biden or a Bloomberg they are going to be painted as coastal elites out of touch with the concerns of ordinary Americans as well. Their record is not going to inspire turnout.
I live in a safe blue state which will be delivering all of its electoral college votes for whoever the Dem nominee is, so who I prefer doesn't much matter.
so excited wrote:
person who agrees..... wrote:
Thanks for an honest answer.
For me, it's anyone but Trump... yes, anyone.
However, I am almost positive we will see Bernie winning the nomination... my fear with him is the obvious reason.. Trump will brand him as a socialist and will get a much larger turnout than would happen otherwise... and the extra turn out will be anti-socialist people and trump will again win and ruin the US and probably the world.
My primary vote will go to either Amy or Pete.... neither has a chance.
I would very likely vote for either Amy or Pete if they were the nominee.
Trump is going to brand the Democratic nominee as a socialist regardless of who it is.
If you have a Biden or a Bloomberg they are going to be painted as coastal elites out of touch with the concerns of ordinary Americans as well. Their record is not going to inspire turnout.
I live in a safe blue state which will be delivering all of its electoral college votes for whoever the Dem nominee is, so who I prefer doesn't much matter.
New York billionaire Trump of all people is going to brand Biden as a coastal elite?
The only reason I think BB has a chance to defeat Trump is that he has all that money to run a campaign... plus he has the burning desire to put trump back in his place. And I honestly think trump is intimidated by him.
Biden doesn't have the money or support to beat trump.
Ciro wrote:
New York billionaire Trump of all people is going to brand Biden as a coastal elite?
He will. I'm not saying it is logical, but he will.
person who agrees..... wrote:
The only reason I think BB has a chance to defeat Trump is that he has all that money to run a campaign... plus he has the burning desire to put trump back in his place. And I honestly think trump is intimidated by him.
Biden doesn't have the money or support to beat trump.
I'd add that Bberg is really really good at politics and organization. He is light years ahead of the lame Dem politics being done outside his campaign. Bringing some of that higher level stuff will help fight trump.
Just look at his ads - really good and he's figured out how to attack trump.
Yosinglerzy wrote:
agip wrote:
you aren't one of those people who thinks the 2016 dem primary was rigged, are you?
I am not.
Then you both are wrong. It WAS rigged. The Hillary campaign was in cahoots with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC. I f you are denying that now ... then not much else to say.
Sally Vix wrote:
... then not much else to say.
That's not going to stop you though.
Sally Vix wrote:
Yosinglerzy wrote:
I am not.
Then you both are wrong. It WAS rigged. The Hillary campaign was in cahoots with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC. I f you are denying that now ... then not much else to say.
Good. The likes of you, Rigged for Hillary and Trollinator should say less. We may be able to warm a bowl of soup with your collective IQs.
person who agrees..... wrote:
Thanks for an honest answer.
For me, it's anyone but Trump... yes, anyone.
However, I am almost positive we will see Bernie winning the nomination... my fear with him is the obvious reason.. Trump will brand him as a socialist and will get a much larger turnout than would happen otherwise... and the extra turn out will be anti-socialist people and trump will again win and ruin the US and probably the world.
My primary vote will go to either Amy or Pete.... neither has a chance.
I don't know how anyone can have high confidence that Bernie is going to win based on the results of two homogeneous and statistically insignificant states.
My view: vote for your favorite in the primary; vote for the nominee in the general election. If the consequences of trump staying in the WH weren't so grave, I would say do not vote for someone you don't believe in. By voting for the nominee in 2020 you are voting for democracy.
Yosingleryz wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Then you both are wrong. It WAS rigged. The Hillary campaign was in cahoots with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC. I f you are denying that now ... then not much else to say.
Good. The likes of you, Rigged for Hillary and Trollinator should say less. We may be able to warm a bowl of soup with your collective IQs.
Thanks. A cup of soup is always good. I am a member of Mensa and you? Are you between 90 and 110? Or do you even fall below that range? Even if you do, I still would never talk bad of you. We all family here.
I forgot who was doubting Nate's model...anyway he just announced that it had a bug. The fixes dont' change the topline, but it does show some new strength for Biden in some confederate states.
Ciro wrote:
New York billionaire Trump of all people is going to brand Biden as a coastal elite?
"Elite" is someone who can read the New York Times without moving their lips. --- Gore Vidal (paraphrased)
Sally Vix wrote:
Then you both are wrong. It WAS rigged. The Hillary campaign was in cahoots with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC. I f you are denying that now ... then not much else to say.
This is true. However, it in no way makes trump more suitable for office. She was clearly the better choice and trump reinforces my opinion every day.
Trollminator wrote:
person who agrees..... wrote:
Thanks for an honest answer.
For me, it's anyone but Trump... yes, anyone.
However, I am almost positive we will see Bernie winning the nomination... my fear with him is the obvious reason.. Trump will brand him as a socialist and will get a much larger turnout than would happen otherwise... and the extra turn out will be anti-socialist people and trump will again win and ruin the US and probably the world.
My primary vote will go to either Amy or Pete.... neither has a chance.
I don't know how anyone can have high confidence that Bernie is going to win based on the results of two homogeneous and statistically insignificant states.
My view: vote for your favorite in the primary; vote for the nominee in the general election. If the consequences of trump staying in the WH weren't so grave, I would say do not vote for someone you don't believe in. By voting for the nominee in 2020 you are voting for democracy.
bernie's advantage is the proportional system each state uses...when you count states including CA, he'll have a lead after Super Tuesday that would be very hard to catch up on.
And many candidates will not hit 15% so they'll get zero delegates in many states. Bernie will get delegates in every state.
Trollminator wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Then you both are wrong. It WAS rigged. The Hillary campaign was in cahoots with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC. I f you are denying that now ... then not much else to say.
This is true. However, it in no way makes trump more suitable for office. She was clearly the better choice and trump reinforces my opinion every day.
Trollminator - do you think the DNC and Perez would again try to sabotage Bernie's nomination chances?
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