I know Dems don't typically vote on nominating judges the way Republicans do, but large contributions from Bloomberg to Susan Collins and Pat Toomey helped keep the Senate in Republican hands, leading directly to Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
But sure, let's just forget about that because he has wads of cash to spend.
so excited wrote:
agip wrote:
not that these anti-BB people care, but here's an easily understandble guide to BB policies.
It's mainstream center left Dem stuff.
Completely clear to me that this is the core Dem party - Bill Clinton and Obamaish.
Oh wait I forgot BB is rich and worked in the private sector so he's a DQ from the start. My bad.
Some of us have attention spans that are longer than five minutes:
https://www.atr.org/michael-bloomberg-raising-taxes-rich-dumb-a7314?amphttps://www.thedailybeast.com/mike-bloomberg-once-said-taking-from-the-rich-was-a-bigger-problem-than-income-inequalityhttps://www.c-span.org/video/?c4853847/user-clip-bloomberg-supporting-bush-rnc-2004
Yawn... he might have said this and that 20 years ago... he has a strong track record as mayor and business leader.
so excited wrote:
I know Dems don't typically vote on nominating judges the way Republicans do, but large contributions from Bloomberg to Susan Collins and Pat Toomey helped keep the Senate in Republican hands, leading directly to Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
But sure, let's just forget about that because he has wads of cash to spend.
No dumb dumb, he was a republican. Try to keep up
Trollminator wrote:
This. I believe the rest of the country will most agree with some of his policies that were deemed controversial in NYC. And as a reminder to all tzees - there is no equivalence between trump and any Dem candidate. Everyone is morally superior to him and exhibit leadership qualities. Please stop comparing.
Sure, then you are back to my slogan though:
Vote Bloomberg 2020: Slightly Less Overtly Racist than the other guy
https://theintercept.com/2020/02/17/mike-bloomberg-new-york-muslim-surveillance/Oh, and his policies weren't deemed controversial, they were deemed unconsitutional. But we need somebody who isn't afraid to ignore constitutional safeguards...to get rid of somebody who...oh wait
agip wrote:
not that these anti-BB people care, but here's an easily understandble guide to BB policies.
It's mainstream center left Dem stuff.
Completely clear to me that this is the core Dem party - Bill Clinton and Obamaish.
Oh wait I forgot BB is rich and worked in the private sector so he's a DQ from the start. My bad.
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/michael-bloomberg/
I think out of anyone in the field has the strong track records of implementing practical policies. No way I rule him out b/c of his wealth.
so excited wrote:
agip wrote:
not that these anti-BB people care, but here's an easily understandble guide to BB policies.
It's mainstream center left Dem stuff.
Completely clear to me that this is the core Dem party - Bill Clinton and Obamaish.
Oh wait I forgot BB is rich and worked in the private sector so he's a DQ from the start. My bad.
Some of us have attention spans that are longer than five minutes:
https://www.atr.org/michael-bloomberg-raising-taxes-rich-dumb-a7314?amphttps://www.thedailybeast.com/mike-bloomberg-once-said-taking-from-the-rich-was-a-bigger-problem-than-income-inequalityhttps://www.c-span.org/video/?c4853847/user-clip-bloomberg-supporting-bush-rnc-2004
BB's view is that NYC city taxes plus NY State taxes plus federal taxes were already basically punitive (true), and he thought furhter raising NYC taxes would chase out high earners.
He's not talking federal, he's not talking state. Local NYC taxes.
High earners pay a huge amount of NYC's budget. NYS has probably the highest taxes in the nation. Raising them further probably isn't a good idea.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/apr/12/marcus-molinaro/do-ny-residents-have-among-highest-tax-burdens-mol/Trollminator wrote:
so excited wrote:
I know Dems don't typically vote on nominating judges the way Republicans do, but large contributions from Bloomberg to Susan Collins and Pat Toomey helped keep the Senate in Republican hands, leading directly to Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
But sure, let's just forget about that because he has wads of cash to spend.
No dumb dumb, he was a republican. Try to keep up
False. He was not a republican when he made those contributions. But keep spreading your lies.
agip wrote:
Yosinglerzy wrote:
Unfortunately, true.
The prospect of electing two bigoted Presidents right after Obama is mind-boggling to me.
the amusing thing about takes like this is that older african americans, the ones who vote, don't hold these views. For the most part. We can see that in all the endorsements BB has received from A-A politicians.
It's mostly woke, PC whites who loathe bberg for policies he's already apologized for.
And of course they loathe BB becauuse of course no one wildly successful in business can be admired. That's a key rule for campus politics types.
You are unwilling to look deep enough at what motivates voters who are skeptical about Bloomberg. This is why voters like you never took Hillary Clinton's vulnerability seriously enough. You can just dismiss the concern about Bloomberg's policies and his record if you like, but those voters and their concerns are still there. It's a huge voting block in rural America. It's a huge voting block among millennial voters, such as my children. You think they despise Bloomberg because he is successful. That's not true. They don't reject him because he is successful. They reject him because his putative success is not worth of being celebrated. A 25-year old farmer who my son works for in the summer put it well; "Bloomberg created an information infrastructure for Wall Street that ushered in the financialization of the economy and accelerated inequality--that's not something many working people see as a success to be celebrated." I agree with this young farmer. And about the Democratic black leaders who endorsed Bloomberg--their time is passing, just like Biden's time is passing. What has their neo-liberal policy done for working people? It has sent manufacturing jobs oversees, creating an under-class of people with great financial insecurity. Just because they are black does not mean they are any wiser about the failings of neoliberal Democrats than the Clintons and their ilk. But by all means, keep ignoring these critiques. You are probably doing fine under Trump. Just don't expect those of us who see through it all to congratulate you for your lack of perspicacity.
so excited wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
This. I believe the rest of the country will most agree with some of his policies that were deemed controversial in NYC. And as a reminder to all tzees - there is no equivalence between trump and any Dem candidate. Everyone is morally superior to him and exhibit leadership qualities. Please stop comparing.
Sure, then you are back to my slogan though:
Vote Bloomberg 2020: Slightly Less Overtly Racist than the other guy
https://theintercept.com/2020/02/17/mike-bloomberg-new-york-muslim-surveillance/Oh, and his policies weren't deemed controversial, they were deemed unconsitutional. But we need somebody who isn't afraid to ignore constitutional safeguards...to get rid of somebody who...oh wait
1. He can and badly wants to beat trump
2. He is running as a Democrat and his agenda is center-left
3. He has a track record of adapting and getting stuff done
When it comes to defeating trump, I don't care if it's JC, Mickey Mouse, or some wrestler, I'll take anyone with a slightly better moral compass and intellect than him.
Trollminator wrote:
so excited wrote:
Some of us have attention spans that are longer than five minutes:
https://www.atr.org/michael-bloomberg-raising-taxes-rich-dumb-a7314?amphttps://www.thedailybeast.com/mike-bloomberg-once-said-taking-from-the-rich-was-a-bigger-problem-than-income-inequalityhttps://www.c-span.org/video/?c4853847/user-clip-bloomberg-supporting-bush-rnc-2004Yawn... he might have said this and that 20 years ago... he has a strong track record as mayor and business leader.
False. None of these statements was 20 years ago. He has a strongbtrack record of violating constitutional rights as a mayor. Keep spreading your lies.
Crazy Bernie will never be POTUS. Sorry comrade.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERJ9bdeX0AML5u-?format=jpg&name=900x900
Little Mikey will not stand on a box tonight.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERJJvYLXsAAB41A?format=jpg&name=small
all this is pretty silly tho - Bernie is the nominee
Unless
1) bernie has another heart attack
or
2) three of the following drop out before Super Tuesday: BB, Joe, Pete, Amy.
I assume none of that will happen, so it's almost for sure going to be Bernie vs. Trump.
My own attitude is that I'm for whatever Dem is put forward.
He is not a Republican. He is a Trumpocrat! https://www.yahoo.com/news/upon-leaving-prison-rod-blagojevich-053200490.html
You are forgotten for a reason wrote:
Blagojevich is now a Trump loving Republican. Do try to keep up.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/rod-blagojevich-democrats-would-have-tried-to-impeach-abraham-lincoln/2195740/
SilIy WiIly wrote:
SilIy WiIly wrote:
A bunch of new polls just updated the RCP PoPs, and guess what? Yes, Trump has hit another new all-time high! 46.0% now.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.htmlMore importantly, the "disapprove number" is finally starting to drop as well and is now the lowest since his first month in office.
The lemmings head towards the precipice.
Esterhazy wrote:
agip wrote:
the amusing thing about takes like this is that older african americans, the ones who vote, don't hold these views. For the most part. We can see that in all the endorsements BB has received from A-A politicians.
It's mostly woke, PC whites who loathe bberg for policies he's already apologized for.
And of course they loathe BB becauuse of course no one wildly successful in business can be admired. That's a key rule for campus politics types.
You are unwilling to look deep enough at what motivates voters who are skeptical about Bloomberg. This is why voters like you never took Hillary Clinton's vulnerability seriously enough. You can just dismiss the concern about Bloomberg's policies and his record if you like, but those voters and their concerns are still there. It's a huge voting block in rural America. It's a huge voting block among millennial voters, such as my children. You think they despise Bloomberg because he is successful. That's not true. They don't reject him because he is successful. They reject him because his putative success is not worth of being celebrated. A 25-year old farmer who my son works for in the summer put it well; "Bloomberg created an information infrastructure for Wall Street that ushered in the financialization of the economy and accelerated inequality--that's not something many working people see as a success to be celebrated." I agree with this young farmer. And about the Democratic black leaders who endorsed Bloomberg--their time is passing, just like Biden's time is passing. What has their neo-liberal policy done for working people? It has sent manufacturing jobs oversees, creating an under-class of people with great financial insecurity. Just because they are black does not mean they are any wiser about the failings of neoliberal Democrats than the Clintons and their ilk. But by all means, keep ignoring these critiques. You are probably doing fine under Trump. Just don't expect those of us who see through it all to congratulate you for your lack of perspicacity.
you and the people may be miserable with their awful American existence but that's a marginal viewpoint.
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Nine in 10 Americans are satisfied with the way things are going in their personal life, a new high in Gallup's four-decade trend. The latest figure bests the previous high of 88% recorded in 2003.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/284285/new-high-americans-satisfied-personal-life.aspxHard for actual conservatives with principles to swallow.
sorry - I meant 'you and the people you cite may be miserable with their awful American existence...'
agip wrote:
all this is pretty silly tho - Bernie is the nominee
Unless
1) bernie has another heart attack
or
2) three of the following drop out before Super Tuesday: BB, Joe, Pete, Amy.
I assume none of that will happen, so it's almost for sure going to be Bernie vs. Trump.
My own attitude is that I'm for whatever Dem is put forward.
If you fools nominate Crazy Bernie, you just dug your own grave.
#Trumplandslide
KAG2020
1933 seems to be drawing closer by the day. How nations vote to get rid of their democracies.
agip wrote:
so excited wrote:
Bloombergs apologies are quite sincere, I am sure...
and your view is that he and Pelosi will pass anti-minority bills if elected? Do i have you correct?
Given his track record and the increasing power of the Executive branch over the last 20 years, he doesn’t need Pelosi.
It seems as though Bloomberg supporters are willing to overlook his bigotry in order to defeat an unlikeable opponent.
Sounds very 2016.