Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Well, ok then wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

I stand corrected. I had always read otherwise, but thanks agip.

History has shown that you'll be corrected each of the many times you repeat this trope over the remainder of the campaign season.

Thanks!

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

we're toast.

five more years of trump.

"only 35 percent of Americans said they would even consider voting in a general election for a candidate who called himself or herself a “democratic socialist.” Forty-six percent said no, while another 18 percent said they weren’t sure. Among independents, those numbers were even less favorable to Sanders: 31 percent yes, 47 percent no and 22 percent not sure. Meanwhile, most Americans (52 percent) said only “some” or “a few” of their peers would consider voting for a democratic socialist. "

https://news.yahoo.com/new-yahoo-news-you-gov-poll-shows-sanderss-strength-going-head-to-head-with-rivals-181522968.html

So why do all the polls show Bernie beating Tiny?

Nobody knows what people are going to think in November. That's 10 lifetimes in politics.

This is the only poll which matters to Trump.

Yosinglerzz wrote:

agip wrote:

I don't understand this view. Could someone help me understand it?

Sure I’ll be your huckleberry.

Narcissistic, bigoted, misogynistic, old white guy beholden to his rich friends with little regard for the ‘common man’ he claims to represent.

Next.

^ idiot who thinks Bloomberg = Trump. One is a real billionaire, real genius, real philanthropist, with a real track record of successful governance. The other guy... well

Sally Vix wrote:

agip wrote:

Thanks, Agip. What fascinates me - and perhaps you can address this- is if Bernie Sanders can moderate his socialist views to appeal to the more moderate voters, i.e., mainstream America. He had never shown a propensity in the past but he never made it past the primary in the past. Do you, Agip, really think Bernie can tone down his far-left, and I mean REALLY far left views, to appeal to the more moderate Americans?

let's give sally some credit - he acknowledged his error and thanked me for pointing it out.

Good on him.

bernie can moderate a little, sure. But not very much. The basic answer is no. He's been the same for 50 years...he's not going to change much from here to november.

What he can do is push very very hard for black and latino turnout. And youths, of course. That would get him over the top, if he can do it.

agip wrote:

we're toast.

five more years of trump.

"only 35 percent of Americans said they would even consider voting in a general election for a candidate who called himself or herself a “democratic socialist.” Forty-six percent said no, while another 18 percent said they weren’t sure. Among independents, those numbers were even less favorable to Sanders: 31 percent yes, 47 percent no and 22 percent not sure. Meanwhile, most Americans (52 percent) said only “some” or “a few” of their peers would consider voting for a democratic socialist. "

https://news.yahoo.com/new-yahoo-news-you-gov-poll-shows-sanderss-strength-going-head-to-head-with-rivals-181522968.html

Bernie is simultaneously too early and too late (and in the wrong country). Social democrats fell out of favor back in the 80s with the rise of globalism and Reagan/Thatcher style policies including unfettered and unrealistic faith in the magic of the free market.

agip wrote:

and this is the problem with single issue voters. Sure, bernie would be toughest on the environment. If you base your entire vote on that, you vote for him.

but that can put forward very weak candidates.

better to sacrifice a bit on your favorite issue so a strong candidate is put forward.

Spotter of Trumpers wrote:

Which is why Trump and Republicans have been supporting a Bernie nomination.

Trump polls +6% over a socialist. And loses by 5% to any Democrat candidate. Bernie claims to be a Democrat but Trump has already cast him as a socialist and Communist.

Nothing wrong with being a single issue voter if that issue is extremely important to you (and humanity).

Ciro wrote:

If he’d forget about his failing vanity wall maybe he could work on solving this.

Promises made, promises broken. His base don’t pay attention.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-released-375-000-illegal-145039255.html

Tzees pretend the he has kept his promises, but in reality they just love his fake alpha barking.

Racket wrote:

agip wrote:

we're toast.

five more years of trump.

"only 35 percent of Americans said they would even consider voting in a general election for a candidate who called himself or herself a “democratic socialist.” Forty-six percent said no, while another 18 percent said they weren’t sure. Among independents, those numbers were even less favorable to Sanders: 31 percent yes, 47 percent no and 22 percent not sure. Meanwhile, most Americans (52 percent) said only “some” or “a few” of their peers would consider voting for a democratic socialist. "

https://news.yahoo.com/new-yahoo-news-you-gov-poll-shows-sanderss-strength-going-head-to-head-with-rivals-181522968.html

Bernie is simultaneously too early and too late (and in the wrong country). Social democrats fell out of favor back in the 80s with the rise of globalism and Reagan/Thatcher style policies including unfettered and unrealistic faith in the magic of the free market.

yeah but really he's a nordic model guy. Not a true socialist. But he's trapped himself into calling himself a socialist.

his only way out is to somehow make people understand that his model is norway ( a very rich nation), not actual socialism.

agip wrote:

and this is the problem with single issue voters. Sure, bernie would be toughest on the environment. If you base your entire vote on that, you vote for him.

but that can put forward very weak candidates.

better to sacrifice a bit on your favorite issue so a strong candidate is put forward.

Bernie wouldn't be my first pick but he's hardly a one issue candidate.

I don't think he's wrong about where healthcare needs to go, but I have doubts that we'll get there in short order.

Trollminator wrote:

Yosinglerzz wrote:

Sure I’ll be your huckleberry.

Narcissistic, bigoted, misogynistic, old white guy beholden to his rich friends with little regard for the ‘common man’ he claims to represent.

Next.

^ idiot who thinks Bloomberg = Trump. One is a real billionaire, real genius, real philanthropist, with a real track record of successful governance. The other guy... well

Trump's governance of the US is without parallel. He has the best economy ever and the stock market is at all-time highs. How can you fault him for that? Trump IS a real billionaire - in fact a MULTI-BILLIONAIRE - ACCORDING TO Forbes. He took a few million from Daddy and built a multi-billion dollar real estate empire. Trump is a philanthropist as well - he donates his $400K salary to the government. He has done many great things.

Yosinglerzy wrote:

Nothing wrong with being a single issue voter if that issue is extremely important to you (and humanity).

^ Trumper. smh

Monkeys typing wrote:

agip wrote:

and this is the problem with single issue voters. Sure, bernie would be toughest on the environment. If you base your entire vote on that, you vote for him.

but that can put forward very weak candidates.

better to sacrifice a bit on your favorite issue so a strong candidate is put forward.

Bernie wouldn't be my first pick but he's hardly a one issue candidate.

I don't think he's wrong about where healthcare needs to go, but I have doubts that we'll get there in short order.

no, I was needling fats, who is pretty much a single-issue voter.

bernie isn't a single issue candidate but his enviro program is the strongest among major candidates.

Trollminator wrote:

Yosinglerzz wrote:

Sure I’ll be your huckleberry.

Narcissistic, bigoted, misogynistic, old white guy beholden to his rich friends with little regard for the ‘common man’ he claims to represent.

Next.

^ idiot who thinks Bloomberg = Trump. One is a real billionaire, real genius, real philanthropist, with a real track record of successful governance. The other guy... well

You’ve been put on ignore for your stupidity. Goodbye.

agip wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

bernie can moderate a little, sure. But not very much. The basic answer is no. He's been the same for 50 years...he's not going to change much from here to november.

What he can do is push very very hard for black and latino turnout. And youths, of course. That would get him over the top, if he can do it.

Agip, very honest answer on your part. But a self-avowed Socialist - who would do away with the great health insurance those in Nevada have - is NEVER going to win the country. The masses of America are NOT going to support a hard-core socialist. One that would do away with their favored health insurance plans in favor of a governemental one which we all know will be crappy.

Quid Pro Joe is done after Super Tuesday. Little Mikey can buy ads all day & all night but his racist & elitist comments have doomed his campaign.

Bernie is my best bet for the nomination- which will result in a easy victory for Trump.

#Trumplandslide

KAG2020

Sally Vix wrote:

agip wrote:

bernie can moderate a little, sure. But not very much. The basic answer is no. He's been the same for 50 years...he's not going to change much from here to november.

What he can do is push very very hard for black and latino turnout. And youths, of course. That would get him over the top, if he can do it.

Agip, very honest answer on your part. But a self-avowed Socialist - who would do away with the great health insurance those in Nevada have - is NEVER going to win the country. The masses of America are NOT going to support a hard-core socialist. One that would do away with their favored health insurance plans in favor of a governemental one which we all know will be crappy.

well the thing is that Bernie isn't really a 'hard core socialist.' he likes norway, sweden, etc. Countries with a core capitalist system but high taxes and a strong social net.

But Rs will try to make bernie look like Chavez or Castro, sure.

Sally Vix wrote:

agip wrote:

bernie can moderate a little, sure. But not very much. The basic answer is no. He's been the same for 50 years...he's not going to change much from here to november.

What he can do is push very very hard for black and latino turnout. And youths, of course. That would get him over the top, if he can do it.

Agip, very honest answer on your part. But a self-avowed Socialist - who would do away with the great health insurance those in Nevada have - is NEVER going to win the country. The masses of America are NOT going to support a hard-core socialist. One that would do away with their favored health insurance plans in favor of a governemental one which we all know will be crappy.

Just a quick follow-up - we all love our Governmental programs. They are run so efficiently and the workers are always so friendly. The DPS and the DMV and every other governmental department is so full of workers who always greet us with a big smile and everything goes so smoothly and we are out of there in just a few minutes. OOOPS - No one EVER smiles there - the lines are a mile long. They are rude and we are in there for hours. Is that what we want for Medicare for All or some other governmental health program?

agip wrote:

So it looks like this will be a three person race coming out of Super Tuesday...Bernie Joe Mike.

Everyone else will have to drop out, most likely. The 15% rule will push out Amy and Eliz and Pete. Although Pete could hang in for a while I suppose.

Bernie has the advantage of a split moderate vote. But Bernie depends on young voters, who don't tend to vote very much.

I wish it were one leftist vs one centrist - that would be a better primary.

But right now, as we speak, it's hard for me to see anyone but bernie being the nominee. Bernie will do better in CA and NY and probably Texas...hard to overcome all that, plus the advantage of a split vote.

The race has just started, really hard to predict Bernie's success. I think Mike's rise is going to outstrip Bernie's, especially with him being included in the debate, and Biden is going to have a boost on super tuesday but he will need to step up his game. Mike hurts Biden a lot, but he also hurts Pete and Bernie. Yeah he's a moderate for sure but remember, Bloomberg is also an outsider even if he's a billionaire and former mayor. He was Independent and no one questions his pragmatism. I also buy in that he is the best rival for trump after Biden. If Mike starts to demolish the competition then it's a sign the voters lost their faith in Biden being able to handle agent orange.

I was responding to this statement:

"Sad how some people treat Dem v Pubs like a sports competition."

And you proved it true very quickly. And by spouting false information.