way too early 2025 XC CIF HS predictions

Other regions deserve hype and recognition. Almost all the regions outside of California are faster than the California region. Why does California get all the threads and hype? There runners are slow?? Why is there a 50 page thread just on California?

Do people not realize that this region was one of the slowest regions in the country? They are only better than New York. Same level as the Heartland region. Everyone else is much better.

11th 15th 17th. One of the slowest regions in the country.

This is mainly based off of last year being California's second slowest in history team wise, CA has the most team depth by far not even close compared to other states, but are lacking the stars that southwest and the other regions have currently and in the past years.This year will be different but CA runners simply cant compete when it comes to NXN unless we are graced by a perfect weather day like the year Sahlman won

I don't agree that weather is a factor. I think it's similar situation with the NY region where the California runners and teams aren't competitive to other regions. If weather was a factor, how do you explain South region getting 3rd and 7th? What about all those years where it was rainy and teams in South, Southeast, California performed great? Hopefully the NXN committee takes note and gives other regions at-larges from here on out.

as an sjs guy I completely disagree

campo is good, but Jesuit is about to be the best ever (other than newbury who are so good they barely count lol)

You yougsters and your Data-Driven analytics are ridiculous.

Ghetto life & get off your device. Go run.

Jesuit hater here I have to agree they will be the second most dominant team in the history of CA xc on the mens side

Jesuit dodging mt sac. Too focused on stealing recruits from other schools.

Actually, they were better than the Heartland region on the boys team side for sure last year, like almost every year.

Weakest regions for boys teams at NXN:
NY - 20, 22 = 42
Heartland - 14, 21 = 35
Southeast - 12, 18 = 30
California - 11, 15 = 26

California boys teams still did better than NY, Heartland, and Southeast teams for sure.

What makes it even more sad is that there were California boys teams last year that could have been really good but didn’t make NXN. There were a couple of teams that could have maybe been top 10 in the nation but their low sticks got injured and weren’t at 100%, which cost them the trip to NXN. This happened to both Great Oak (another top guy DQed too) and Beckman.
Buchanan and ML King returned all of their scorers from their 2023 squads, but they actually ended up doing worse in 2024 than in 2023, even though their low sticks did really well.

And Menlo, a team that not many people were high enough on, autoqualified for NXN. And a mediocre team Glendora ended up getting an at-large.

I think a big part of California’s decline is that so many top HS coaches left.

I wonder if there are any teams with really good coaches that are currently mediocre but “on the rise”. That’s kind of what California needs right now.

In the past there were teams that took really big jumps.
Newbury Park took 6th at NXN in 2018 after not even qualifying for state in 2017.

San Clemente went from 6th in the state meet merge in 2021 to 7th at NXN in 2022.

Jesuit went from 14th in the merge in 2023 to 11th at NXN in 2024.

Good examples of such teams this year should be Woodbridge, San clemente, and campolindo. Last year, Woodbridge was doing pretty bad relative to their talent at this point in the season, while right now they're looking very close to jesuit's level. San clemente lost their entire top 6 runners from 2023, but they are a good candidate to make nxn this year. Campolindo has not been discussed a lot on these boards until rough rider, yet they are looking super strong. I'm very optimistic about California's team depth, even if the individual side is a bit lacking, the teams should be very tight and competitive at state. I mean, look at the Clovis team competition, 7 California teams were all within like 30 points of each other or something stupidly close.

They gotta stay uninjured. Always been a problem.

Foothill Technology is ahead of JSerra.

Great Oak boys in danger of falling out of Rich's full CA rankings. When was the last time they weren't ranked or considered a lock for qualifying for state meet?

2012 was the last time the Great Oak boys team didn’t make state. That was a senior-heavy squad too. In 2013 they qualified with a young squad

No one good outside of So Cal cares about Mt SAC anymore and has any reason to run it.

I just did a quick search and saw that 4 SJS teams are going and they are all bad and none of them will be at State. This is their big trip.

You a coach in the section. There is no reason in that position of leadership you should be bagging on teams and saying they “are all bad.” Be a nicer adult and role model.

On this page alone I count 4 teams that were basically called bad and the entire state was called bad. You should probably defend all them too. First time on LR?