this is it wrote:
Interseting read
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Wow. This is exactly what I've been saying here.
It doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is. Swing voters don't exist anyway.
Either you love Trump or you'd sooner vote for a tub of moldy leftovers. There is no in between.
So turnout is the key. I think Bernie will drive turnout more than anyone.
this is it wrote:
Interseting read
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Read it. Really just seems like someone trying to be provocative.
Got a great laugh when she described herself as a quantitative scientist though lol
Fat hurts wrote:
this is it wrote:
Interseting read
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtabWow. This is exactly what I've been saying here.
It doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is. Swing voters don't exist anyway.
Either you love Trump or you'd sooner vote for a tub of moldy leftovers. There is no in between.
So turnout is the key. I think Bernie will drive turnout more than anyone.
Turnout is always the key.
In a nation of 300+ million people, we get what...approximately 130 million votes.
How many people attend Trump rallies?
How many people attend Bernie rallies?
You are ignoring Trump’s turnout!
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Do You Remember? wrote:
It’s going to be a long 5 years for you. That’s my prediction.
Absolutely.
All the accomplishments that Trump is racking up, despite massive resistance and obstruction, should deliver another term. It will be interesting to see what the swamp comes up with between now and the election to try to take him down though. They've already thrown the kitchen sink at him, and he's the highest he's been in the GALLUP poll (49%).
The increasing African American and Hispanic approvals scaring the crap out of the Demonrats at the moment. Good to see. Identity politics needed to die a painful death.
Appeals court rules Democrats can't sue Trump over emoluments claims. Trump wins again.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/481993-appeals-court-rules-democrats-cant-sue-trump-over-emoluments-claimsAnother day, another Flagpolian Flop for the ?pole. Bahahaha!!!!
Fat hurts wrote:
this is it wrote:
Interseting read
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtabWow. This is exactly what I've been saying here.
It doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is. Swing voters don't exist anyway.
Either you love Trump or you'd sooner vote for a tub of moldy leftovers. There is no in between.
So turnout is the key. I think Bernie will drive turnout more than anyone.
what a world.
the winner of the 2020 presidential election is the one who gets more people to hate the other guy.
exactly what Jefferson, Hamilton and Adams had in mind.
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Four full years now of Clownpole and his pals being on the wrong side of nearly every issue and prediction.
Day after day after day of whining on an internet messageboard to each other.
Tens of thousands of posts speculating on the certain doom that is coming to our president.
Despite constant establishment resistance, his achievements are stacking up high, and it's starting to look like he's finally getting some wind at his back.
Mueller NEVER.
Clownpole FOREVER.
And don't forget your predictions on no impeachment, a bigly fail.
Fat hurts wrote:
this is it wrote:
Interseting read
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtabWow. This is exactly what I've been saying here.
It doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is. Swing voters don't exist anyway.
Either you love Trump or you'd sooner vote for a tub of moldy leftovers. There is no in between.
So turnout is the key. I think Bernie will drive turnout more than anyone.
FYI on bitecofer's twitter feed she disputes the politico piece - bitecofer says that of course there are swing voters, many of them, but just not as many as the conventional wisdom thinks there are.
agip wrote:
what a world.
the winner of the 2020 presidential election is the one who gets more people to hate the other guy.
exactly what Jefferson, Hamilton and Adams had in mind.
It shouldn't be taking this long for people to realize that this is the case. It is an effective strategy of course, that's what got the the bald face crier in the WH. But I do think it's just the current trend. Obama easily motivated the masses without using anger and hate. Sadly trump has given the Dems a good reason to weaponize anti-trump emotions, and heck yeah they should use that. Could you think of a bigger threat to democracy right now that an unprincipled reckless dictator wannabe in the WH who has complete control of at least half of the government?
If you roll the tape back to the early 20th century and prior, politics and elections were often much more vicious and disgusting than now. The implications are just that much more critical to world order and the economy now, but really shouldn't be historically surprising.
holy smokes the educated are ticked off. They are showing up in much larger numbers than before.
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1225806317740285952?s=20
Trollminator wrote:
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Four full years now of Clownpole and his pals being on the wrong side of nearly every issue and prediction.
Day after day after day of whining on an internet messageboard to each other.
Tens of thousands of posts speculating on the certain doom that is coming to our president.
Despite constant establishment resistance, his achievements are stacking up high, and it's starting to look like he's finally getting some wind at his back.
Mueller NEVER.
Clownpole FOREVER.
And don't forget your predictions on no impeachment, a bigly fail.
I would never make that prediction without including "and removal", because without subsequent removal, a partisan impeachment is gigantic waste of time. Which it clearly was.
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
what a world.
the winner of the 2020 presidential election is the one who gets more people to hate the other guy.
exactly what Jefferson, Hamilton and Adams had in mind.
If you roll the tape back to the early 20th century and prior, politics and elections were often much more vicious and disgusting than now. The implications are just that much more critical to world order and the economy now, but really shouldn't be historically surprising.
yeah that x 1000.
The nation has some kind of short term memory, when the parties were pretty close together...that bit of history, from Ike and onwards for some time, is not representative.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Wow. This is exactly what I've been saying here.
It doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is. Swing voters don't exist anyway.
Either you love Trump or you'd sooner vote for a tub of moldy leftovers. There is no in between.
So turnout is the key. I think Bernie will drive turnout more than anyone.
FYI on bitecofer's twitter feed she disputes the politico piece - bitecofer says that of course there are swing voters, many of them, but just not as many as the conventional wisdom thinks there are.
Btw - assuming the article is right, maybe we should all be excited about Bernie, especially if he starts to dominate... he would be the right's worse nightmare and therefore a favorite. We are deep in the era of the populists (or popularists according to trump).
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Absolutely.
All the accomplishments that Trump is racking up, despite massive resistance and obstruction, should deliver another term. It will be interesting to see what the swamp comes up with between now and the election to try to take him down though. They've already thrown the kitchen sink at him, and he's the highest he's been in the GALLUP poll (49%).
The increasing African American and Hispanic approvals scaring the crap out of the Demonrats at the moment. Good to see. Identity politics needed to die a painful death.
Appeals court rules Democrats can't sue Trump over emoluments claims. Trump wins again.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/481993-appeals-court-rules-democrats-cant-sue-trump-over-emoluments-claimsAnother day, another Flagpolian Flop for the ?pole. Bahahaha!!!!
I was just going to post on that. Yet ANOTHER line item of Clownpole's "dream list" of things that will take Trump down. LOL!
Racket wrote:
this is it wrote:
Interseting read
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944?utm_source=pocket-newtabRead it. Really just seems like someone trying to be provocative.
Got a great laugh when she described herself as a quantitative scientist though lol
True, she is trying to be provocative. But a lot of people think she's right.
Why do you think she's not a quantitative scientist?
Granted, poli sci is not a hard science. But it is a science that, in her case, is based on quantitative analysis.
SiIly WilIy wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
And don't forget your predictions on no impeachment, a bigly fail.
I would never make that prediction without including "and removal", because without subsequent removal, a partisan impeachment is gigantic waste of time. Which it clearly was.
Are you trying to rewrite history?
Trump wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Wow. This is exactly what I've been saying here.
It doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is. Swing voters don't exist anyway.
Either you love Trump or you'd sooner vote for a tub of moldy leftovers. There is no in between.
So turnout is the key. I think Bernie will drive turnout more than anyone.
Turnout is always the key.
In a nation of 300+ million people, we get what...approximately 130 million votes.
How many people attend Trump rallies?
How many people attend Bernie rallies?
You are ignoring Trump’s turnout!
LOL, yes please do tell us about the trump turnout...
Trump wrote:
Turnout is always the key.
In a nation of 300+ million people, we get what...approximately 130 million votes.
How many people attend Trump rallies?
How many people attend Bernie rallies?
You are ignoring Trump’s turnout!
Fool, there ARE NOT 300+ million eligible voters in the U.S. Children don't vote. Non-citizens don't vote. People in prison don't vote. Most ex-prisoners don't vote. And some people exercise their right to not vote at all. Yet, you think that Trump will somehow earn votes from those 170 million people because why? .... they a closeted Trump supporters?
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Wow. This is exactly what I've been saying here.
It doesn't matter who the Democratic nominee is. Swing voters don't exist anyway.
Either you love Trump or you'd sooner vote for a tub of moldy leftovers. There is no in between.
So turnout is the key. I think Bernie will drive turnout more than anyone.
FYI on bitecofer's twitter feed she disputes the politico piece - bitecofer says that of course there are swing voters, many of them, but just not as many as the conventional wisdom thinks there are.
I thought that was pretty clear from the article. Maybe she was clarifying more than complaining.
And of course, when I said, "Swing voters don't exist", that was hyperbole. Obviously there are a few out there. But like Bitecofer, I believe that they are inconsequential.
agip wrote:
holy smokes the educated are ticked off. They are showing up in much larger numbers than before.
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1225806317740285952?s=20
The working class folks gave up on the Democrat party a long time ago.
The current Democrat party is full of angry people who are underemployed and they were brainwashed at university to be good little anti-capitalists!
SiIIy WiIly wrote:
Trump wrote:
Turnout is always the key.
In a nation of 300+ million people, we get what...approximately 130 million votes.
How many people attend Trump rallies?
How many people attend Bernie rallies?
You are ignoring Trump’s turnout!
Fool, there ARE NOT 300+ million eligible voters in the U.S. Children don't vote. Non-citizens don't vote. People in prison don't vote. Most ex-prisoners don't vote. And some people exercise their right to not vote at all. Yet, you think that Trump will somehow earn votes from those 170 million people because why? .... they a closeted Trump supporters?
Mostly agree-except for the non-citizens of Commiefornia, they vote.