Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Fat hurts wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

So Apple or Microsoft have nothing to do with computer science? Do you have any idea how stupid you sound?

I sound like someone who knows what computer science is. You sound like Sally.

Haven't read any of the responses really on this but Jobs was a salesman and marketer. In his defense, he did it pretty well and had a good feel for what people wanted (except his wife. And daughter. Also he was a control freak who had to have it his way). He was since the days of him and Wozniack when Woz did all the hard work and Jobs would sell it to Atari or whoever and collect his half.

Gates on the other hand was actually involved in DOS and the early Windows kernel.

Racket wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Comes back to your sense of urgency. In the pre-Trump era, I would vote for the one I thought was best for the country, recognizing and tolerating the fact that a candidate I might not like could be elected. For this election, just like in 2016, I will vote for the one who has the best chance to beat him, because I believe he's the worst thing that's happened to the WH and the sooner he's gone the better. I will go back to voting for the one I think is best once this plague is gone.

Oh man that is the slipperiest of slopes and literally, LITERALLY, how we ended up with Trump in the first place but OK

That's a bad comparison. Rs voted for him because they wanted to own the libs. I do not want to own any tzees, I want this plague out. And he's objectively a plague. I will vote for anyone that can beat him because I think he's terrible for this country. You seem to think we have the luxury of choosing our individual favorite and somehow poof trump is going to be gone... you are willing to accept another 4 years of this but I think differently. I cannot think of a more conscious and genuine vote than one that will increase the chances of him not coming back. The only equivalence between trump and bernie is that they are both populists.

Fat hurts wrote:

I support Racket's right to vote for third party or not at all. In a democracy, that's a legitimate choice (except in Brazil).

I absolutely support those rights.

I am only saying that he is choosing to let others do the choosing.

jesseriley wrote:

We ended up with trump same as hitler: “Oh, he won’t really do all those horrible things that he said he would do!”

People don't want to compare the two but in terms of political climate and circumstances it's not far off. Hitler, like trump, was considered a certified clown spewing nonsense every time he opened his mouth. The stars aligned for him when public sentiment toward the government was at it's worst. Just like the GOP, his supporters initially laughed at him and then pretended to go along to keep their jobs. Before long they feared him and felt helpless as the masses became brain washed. Soon he had total control of the narrative and the politicians. The GOP has been a willing enabler and is at the point that they are controlled by fear of falling out of his favor. Just look at how quickly they mobilized to attack Romney. They are gladly giving up their powers to check him to keep this going. In the meantime, none are looking at each other and wondering out loud if this is all one terrible idea. History will not judge them kindly.

L L wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I support Racket's right to vote for third party or not at all. In a democracy, that's a legitimate choice (except in Brazil).

I absolutely support those rights.

I am only saying that he is choosing to let others do the choosing.

Correct. I agree it's an individual right, but lets not pretend it can't have massive negative consequences and that those who don't vote don't have any accountability.

The good thing is that I live in the US and get to use my votes in the manner I think is best for the country. If Sanders runs against Trump, I will vote for neither.

I suggest you become informed on Sanders’ positions. If you believe is not too radical, by all means, vote for him. I found him to be too radical.

Hitler never won a majority, either, never faced a second election. I wonder why?

I suggest you become informed on trump’s positions: “Article 2 says I can do whatever I want.”

jesseriley wrote:

I suggest you become informed on trump’s positions: “Article 2 says I can do whatever I want.”

Right, I'm having a hard time visualizing how Bernie could be more radical or destructive... for some reason I can't see him trying to trample the constitution for personal gain

jesseriley wrote:

I suggest you become informed on trump’s positions: “Article 2 says I can do whatever I want.”

I see now that Racket was quite right about you.

I never thought he & ‘pubs would be this bad, especially ones who are gone or not facing re-election. Tillerson, at least, admitted that the problem was that trump would only suggest strategies that were illegal.

Mapleton Runner=trumpanzee

I’m voting for Biden in a few weeks. If you guys vote Sanders as the nominee, the consequences are on you.

I suggest you do some research on Sanders’ position.

I’m not a Romney supporter, but trump questioning his faith today at the PRAYER breakfast was so inappropriate, it’s laughable.

Republicans are evil to the core. Time to take the gloves off.

Trump supporters intentionally swarmed the Iowa Caucus phone lines to delay the results

http://va.topbuzz.com/s/mUkQyf

I told my wife yesterday that the Repubs probably had something to do with the problems in Iowa.

Mapleton Runner wrote:

I’m voting for Biden in a few weeks. If you guys vote Sanders as the nominee, the consequences are on you.

I suggest you do some research on Sanders’ position.

I suggest you do some homework on Trump's position. Bill Bar, speaking for Trump (a trial balloon): "US should buy control of Nokia, Ericsson to fight Huawei."

Yup. Trump wants a national controlled phone supplier. So very communist of him.

Barr -- "There are only two companies that can compete with Huawei right now: Nokia and Ericsson. The main concern about these suppliers is that they have neither Huawei's scale nor the backing of a powerful country with a large embedded market like China."

Barr proposes U.S. ownership of a controlling stake, either directly or through a consortium.

Trollminator wrote:

L L wrote:

I absolutely support those rights.

I am only saying that he is choosing to let others do the choosing.

Correct. I agree it's an individual right, but lets not pretend it can't have massive negative consequences and that those who don't vote don't have any accountability.

So, if people who vote differently than how you THINK they should vote it will have massive negative consequences? So you are the determiner of how people should vote and if they don't vote how you think they should vote they are idiots? You decide how people should vote?

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I sound like someone who knows what computer science is. You sound like Sally.

Haven't read any of the responses really on this but Jobs was a salesman and marketer. In his defense, he did it pretty well and had a good feel for what people wanted (except his wife. And daughter. Also he was a control freak who had to have it his way). He was since the days of him and Wozniack when Woz did all the hard work and Jobs would sell it to Atari or whoever and collect his half.

Gates on the other hand was actually involved in DOS and the early Windows kernel.

Not sure what this is doing on the Trump thread, but Steve Jobs did not do anything for Computer Science. Neither did Bill Gates. Both did a lot for the computer industry. Both are great technologists. Bill Gates could write computer code. Steve Jobs could not.

Computer Science is about computation. It's about algorithms, data structures. In essence it's about the "science" of computing. These are thing Steve Jobs knew very little about. Bill Gates knew a lot more. He utilized his knowledge of computer science to help develop programs and systems.

Steve Jobs knew computers, but not computer science. In other words he knew how to use computers. He knew how to think about computers. He knew about the end result he wanted from computers and programs. He did not know how to get there - other than hire smart people and point them in the right direction.

None of this is computer science. It's like saying that Donald Trump is an Architect because he is a Real Estate developer responsible for buildings coming into existence (though I'm sure DJT considers himself the best architect in the world).

Communist Trump wrote:

Mapleton Runner wrote:

I’m voting for Biden in a few weeks. If you guys vote Sanders as the nominee, the consequences are on you.

I suggest you do some research on Sanders’ position.

I suggest you do some homework on Trump's position. Bill Bar, speaking for Trump (a trial balloon): "US should buy control of Nokia, Ericsson to fight Huawei."

Yup. Trump wants a national controlled phone supplier. So very communist of him.

Barr -- "There are only two companies that can compete with Huawei right now: Nokia and Ericsson. The main concern about these suppliers is that they have neither Huawei's scale nor the backing of a powerful country with a large embedded market like China."

Barr proposes U.S. ownership of a controlling stake, either directly or through a consortium.

Yes, Bernie might be radical, but what about Trump!

It's truly amazing that people are convinced the other side is just so irreconcilably different