Cop out
Cop out
Racket wrote:
agip wrote:
racket not voting for the Dem in 2020 is just a vote for trump while trying to keep your conscience clear.
Well since that's literally not true, it basically comes down to however you want to define "is," and since we can move that definition back and forth on a continuum to suit almost any legitimate ethical framework you can conceive of, I see no reason to even bother arguing it except to point out that a more acceptable action, if one found both candidates equally appalling and bad for the country, would be to not vote at all, so I'll let you chew on that for a while.
That you are even considering that any alternative from the field of candidates might be equally as bad as trump says you are definitely not a Democrat, and at very best do not understand your own value system yet. If you are a democrat and care about the constitution how can your priority not be to vote him out at all costs? What is more important to you?
jesseriley wrote:
Yes he’s so intelligent he thinks everyone has autism.
No, not everyone. Just most people on this thread. Your post does nothing but support his view.
Racket wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
It's all about turnout. So there are those like Racket who will stay home if it's Bernie. There are others who will stay home if it's Biden.
I didn't say I would stay home if it's Bernie, I merely said I would not vote for Bernie or Trump. I do intend to vote as I always have.
You might as well vote for Trump...same thing. If you are too stupid to understand that then you don’t deserve to vote.
Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Forgot to include this:
https://cacm.acm.org/news/136161-what-did-steve-jobs-do-for-computer-science/fulltextDid you even read the article? It proves my point.
I guess because it's published by the ACM you didn't understand it. As I said, you don't know what computer science is.
This is not surprising because, well, you are you.
So, Steve Jobs was a computer science neophyte? Is that what you are saying?
jesseriley wrote:
Yes please don’t vote racket because you’re a trumper.
That's what I am concluding as well... best for Dems if he just stays home then
Sally Vix wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Did you even read the article? It proves my point.
I guess because it's published by the ACM you didn't understand it. As I said, you don't know what computer science is.
This is not surprising because, well, you are you.
So, Steve Jobs was a computer science neophyte? Is that what you are saying?
And I AM a mathematician. YOu may not like that but I am. I am an expert in math even though no degree in it.
Dumb@ss you can google me.
Sally Vix wrote:
Do you support able-bodied individuals for doing nothing? Or do you support making able-bodied people working for their income?
Frankly, I don't care what other people do.
What I do care about is the health and happiness of people. Whatever leads to better outcomes in these areas is fine by me.
Sally Vix wrote:
P wrote:
You (and many others) have gotten Racket wrong. You may reasonably disagree with his expressed intent to avoid voting for Bernie even if he is the only viable alternative to Trump on the November ballot. But the following are certainly true:
1) Racket is most definitely NOT a Trumper.
2) He is also one of the most intelligent and informed posters on this thread.
Oh yeah - he is one of us so he is obviously one of the most intelligent and most informed and ALSO one of the most charismatic posters here. The women love him too! simply because he has liberal views!
That was lame. Even by your standards.
Racket wrote:
I didn't say I would stay home if it's Bernie, I merely said I would not vote for Bernie or Trump. I do intend to vote as I always have.
What you are saying is that you prefer to leave the decision of who will be president to other people and not have any input.
Swing Voter wrote:
Well, ok then wrote:
Suppose there were some policy implemented that cut the average American's healthcare cost in half, thus putting in line with the rest of the world. What effect would that have on the economy?
The paper shufflers in the middle would have to find other work. Same as happened to many of the telemarketers when it became more difficult for them make money.
At the global rate of population growth and obvious slowing rate of global growth I hope you can see the problem with your suggestion.
P wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Do you support able-bodied individuals for doing nothing? Or do you support making able-bodied people working for their income?
Frankly, I don't care what other people do.
What I do care about is the health and happiness of people. Whatever leads to better outcomes in these areas is fine by me.
You don't care if 30% of the population is lounging around doing nothing while you are working your arse off and you are providing money for them to be sloths?
Sally Vix wrote:
Well, ok then wrote:
Suppose there were some policy implemented that cut the average American's healthcare cost in half, thus putting in line with the rest of the world. What effect would that have on the economy?
Seriously? it would devastate the economy. If everyone's healthcare cost was cut in half, who is paying for that? Santa Claus? We Americans would be paying for that and it would cost TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Do you not understand how stuff like that works?
Why do you assume that healthcare costs need to be as high as they are? Are you aware the US is the #1 in per capita spending on health care but we are way way back in rankings when it comes to quality of that healthcare and coverage?
agip wrote:
in a democracy not voting is unacceptable. It's our responsibility to choose our leaders.
Agree 100%... can't not vote and then complain... abstaining is worse than having to pick the worse of the evils. You're basically saying you don't even care about one of the few powers you have left.
agip wrote:
Racket wrote:
Thanks P, I'm just keeping real over here.
I'll agree with what you've said.
But I do think his judgment has gone awry if he thinks there is no better/worse between trump and sanders.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. In most elections I think voting 3rd party makes sense for many. In this one, I would encourage people to hold their noses if they must and pull the lever for the Dem candidate, regardless of the particular name.
So, I do "reasonably disagree with (Racket's) expressed intent to avoid voting for Bernie even if he is the only viable alternative to Trump on the November ballot." But my other statements regarding Racket remain true as well.
Fat boy just said “It was all bull$hit” live on TV.
Sally Vix wrote:
How can the health care cost be cut in half? Are we in Fantasyland?
You haven't been paying attention have you?
Sally Vix wrote:
Was Steve Jobs an expert in computer science or was he not? I say he was and you say he was not? Fair?
This is a typical response when you don't know what the F you're talking about