jesseriley wrote:
Sally I thought you wanted to abolish the CIA, too!
You know they FISA’d you already, right?
They Visa'd me? No problemo. That was already maxed out anyway.
jesseriley wrote:
Sally I thought you wanted to abolish the CIA, too!
You know they FISA’d you already, right?
They Visa'd me? No problemo. That was already maxed out anyway.
Yes we know about paying for non-workers who get rubles, sally.
agip wrote:
Racket wrote:
It's funny how I stop posting for like 2 months and I suddenly become a stranger. Trump is nothing but hot air and aside from the fact that he's an absolute embarrassment to the office of the presidency, I'd say I'm not worried about what he's done to the country because he's been too lazy and retarded to actually do pretty much anything meaningful at all beyond the status quo, with maybe the exception of cancelling TPP and tariffs on China but it turns out that might be actually end up working due purely to dumb luck the windfall of an upper hand that the US gains from the corona-virus outbreak.
The more dangerous thing about Trump is the lost opportunity costs the country will incur, i.e. the things he won't do rather, than the things he will do. Four more years of Trump means four years of America falling behind on it's goals and status as a world leader and it's four more years of the race to the bottom, four years of understaffed positions in actually important government offices like the state department, and four more years of questionable treatment towards our allies. Yeah it sucks @ss but that's just the reality of things, but it seems like even his inner circle is determined to subvert his more ridiculous tendencies. Besides, it motivates and gives people an opportunity to fix things in their local community where they can actually make differences and connect with people
it's deeper than that racket.
beyond policy.
it's an intentional vaguing of the truth. An intentional telling people that there is no truth.
That started decades before Trump and originates in over-zealous liberal arts colleges and thinkers who pushed the bounds way beyond the original ideas of postmodernism into those of relativism, cynicism, and obscurantism. It's also led to the plague that is the precautionary principle and is a major driving factor of why people hold weird denials about things like vaccinations and climate change.
Trump is nothing more than a delightfully embraced embodiment of everything already present in large chunks of the populace. It's no accident that hardcore Bernie supporters and hardcore Trump supporters hold nearly identical post-truth ideas
As soon as they outlaw the FBI, too, you’ll be fine. The local cops won’t bother.
Sure, this will work . . . Senate Republicans are idiots. They actually believe they have to power to tell Trump how to behave. The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee released a report with the following statement.
"The President of the United States should take steps to separate himself from political considerations when handling issues related to foreign intelligence operations. These steps should explicitly include putting aside politics when addressing the American people on election threats and marshalling [sic' all the resources of the U.S. Government to effectively confront the threat."
See page 45, top of page.
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume3.pdf
All you can do is laugh
Meanwhile it’s another meltdown in DC. ‘Pubs going for revenge against Bidens, Giuliani rampant. Hilarious.
Racket wrote:
agip wrote:
it's deeper than that racket.
beyond policy.
it's an intentional vaguing of the truth. An intentional telling people that there is no truth.
That started decades before Trump and originates in over-zealous liberal arts colleges and thinkers who pushed the bounds way beyond the original ideas of postmodernism into those of relativism, cynicism, and obscurantism. It's also led to the plague that is the precautionary principle and is a major driving factor of why people hold weird denials about things like vaccinations and climate change.
Trump is nothing more than a delightfully embraced embodiment of everything already present in large chunks of the populace. It's no accident that hardcore Bernie supporters and hardcore Trump supporters hold nearly identical post-truth ideas
1) No, it's not a continuum. Trump is a light-year in front of other politicians.
2) The 20c taught us that civilization is thin. There is always a yahoo/fascist/communist portion of a nation. This portion always stays quiet...until a bad government eggs them on. Then norms fall away and violence reigns. The majority of Chinese didn't want to kill 50 million of their compatriots. The majority of Russians and Germans didn't want totalitarian evil government. but it happened anyway, because their government let a violent, delusionary minority take charge.
Trump has put the nation on that path. he doesn't know that, but he has. Your voting for him would be like the 'good germans' looking the other way as hitler broke down civilization.
agip wrote:
1) No, it's not a continuum. Trump is a light-year in front of other politicians.
No, he's not. Not even by US standards, let alone the psychos that get occasionally elected in Europe and elsewhere. Besides, Trump isn't a politician, he's a reality TV figure. I'd argue that Trump is way more reserved compared to Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh (and etc).
2) The 20c taught us that civilization is thin. There is always a yahoo/fascist/communist portion of a nation. This portion always stays quiet...until a bad government eggs them on. Then norms fall away and violence reigns. The majority of Chinese didn't want to kill 50 million of their compatriots. The majority of Russians and Germans didn't want totalitarian evil government. but it happened anyway, because their government let a violent, delusionary minority take charge.
yeah idk what kind of weird slippery slope you're trying to argue here with like three distinct governments, national histories, and cultures. Kinda ironic re: Russia at least though because the Bolsheviks were, ya know, the majority, and not "a delusional minority."
Trump has put the nation on that path. he doesn't know that, but he has. Your voting for him would be like the 'good germans' looking the other way as hitler broke down civilization.
Well I definitely and unequivocally said I was going to vote for Trump so good call.
Yeah, when I went to Austria in ‘72 to see my mom’s family, there was a lot more trauma from WW II still around than I would have believed.
The Child Dictator is at work.
DHS bans New Yorkers from Global Entry and other programs over state law allowing undocumented immigrants to get driver's licenses
Don’t be a dumb@ss, Bolsheviks were not a majority.
Sally Vix wrote:
Everything he supports is bad for the economy. His policies would stifle any growth for the country. Same with Warren.
If the net paychecks of people making under $250,000 was higher and the net pay of those making more was lower, that would lead to great growth.
Because people making less spend almost every extra dollar they would get back into the economy. Hence, growth.
People making more save the extra dollars. That's where contractions come from.
Consumer spending drives the economy. Get consumers more money, not owners.
Sure, there are a lot of other things that would happen like changes in investments, but your doomsday call is simply wrong.
racket not voting for the Dem in 2020 is just a vote for trump while trying to keep your conscience clear.
L L wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Everything he supports is bad for the economy. His policies would stifle any growth for the country. Same with Warren.
If the net paychecks of people making under $250,000 was higher and the net pay of those making more was lower, that would lead to great growth.
Because people making less spend almost every extra dollar they would get back into the economy. Hence, growth.
People making more save the extra dollars. That's where contractions come from.
Consumer spending drives the economy. Get consumers more money, not owners.
Sure, there are a lot of other things that would happen like changes in investments, but your doomsday call is simply wrong.
People making more do save more but also spend more. And lower taxes allows wage earners to save more and also to spend more. Lower taxes all around allow for more spending and more boost to the economy. Yes?
Bolsheviks were a tiny minority. The name comes from being a larger faction within the tiny faction of communists at one time.
No, the rich can’t productively spend vast sums. The poor have to buy necessities.
jesseriley wrote:
Don’t be a dumb@ss, Bolsheviks were not a majority.
Dude - seriously. "Bolshevicks" by definition means "majority!" That is what Bolhevicks means! I am repossessing your Russia card ASAP!
Sally Vix wrote:
Dude - seriously. "Bolshevicks" by definition means "majority!" That is what Bolhevicks means! I am repossessing your Russia card ASAP!
"Bolsheviks" ... there is no "c"
Too slow, trumpanzee!