Hi all - long time lurker. I was fortunate enough to sit down with Sirpoc and FOD Runner earlier in the week for a video call. Honestly the best conversation I've ever had about marathon prep and racing - I learnt so much! We all agreed that we were just getting started, so I think this will be the first of several. You can watch the video here:
Can't believe the secret speed work chat was edited out. After all the peer pressure here, I finally revealed and was hones! Jimmy and FOD keeping it for themselves. That's YouTubers for you.
Hi all, so I have attached my plan derived from sirpoc's marathon block. No personal "spins" or complications put on it, just rescheduling and volume reduction as copying the original 1-for-1 would have killed me dead.
Sadly I did not execute the whole sequence due to an injury sustained through strides (couldn't help myself, hadn't checked all my baggage at the door yet). Due to this I missed the middle portion, and, post-physio, I picked back up conservatively and made it as far as the biggest interval sessions (5×4K/4×5K), but there just isn't enough recovery time for the straight tempos before my race, so we'll have to see what happens without them.
Interested in feedback but also simply posting in case it helps anyone with a Mon-Fri job where 75mins in the morning may be absolutely stretching the limits of what you can do before work, and running after work is unproductive due to exhaustion/stress, so the long intervals have to be done on Saturday morning.
Plan for 2026 is a full year of vanilla NSA all the way racing only 5K's, 10K's, and a 10 miler at most. 2027 I'll be going for a HM at the start of the year to test how it's impacted me, then digging this marathon plan back out to try and execute it without injury.
Hi all, so I have attached my plan derived from sirpoc's marathon block. No personal "spins" or complications put on it, just rescheduling and volume reduction as copying the original 1-for-1 would have killed me dead.
Sadly I did not execute the whole sequence due to an injury sustained through strides (couldn't help myself, hadn't checked all my baggage at the door yet). Due to this I missed the middle portion, and, post-physio, I picked back up conservatively and made it as far as the biggest interval sessions (5×4K/4×5K), but there just isn't enough recovery time for the straight tempos before my race, so we'll have to see what happens without them.
Interested in feedback but also simply posting in case it helps anyone with a Mon-Fri job where 75mins in the morning may be absolutely stretching the limits of what you can do before work, and running after work is unproductive due to exhaustion/stress, so the long intervals have to be done on Saturday morning.
Plan for 2026 is a full year of vanilla NSA all the way racing only 5K's, 10K's, and a 10 miler at most. 2027 I'll be going for a HM at the start of the year to test how it's impacted me, then digging this marathon plan back out to try and execute it without injury.
One thing that has struck me from this thread is how many people have mentioned they have got injured directly doing strides. It's come up a number of times. Tbh, I was probably pro strides until recently and actually I would now probably sit on the side of the fence in terms of low reward, increased (although not super high) risk.
My main takeaway from this thread, aside from sirpoc becoming an internet (rightly so) hobby jogging hero, is reshaping what have been very common and mainstream conceptions about running. What he has done so well is put his hat in the ring so say 'hang on a minute, as an outsider let's reassess all of this and what makes sense for most of us', then brought a lot of things from different corners of sports, training and centralised it into something with a clear identity. Maybe that's what I'm just waking up to as a former skeptic and someone who thought this was just "another fad".
I'll be totally up front, whilst not a troll I thought all of this was silly. But seeing what it's become, grown into, others success, Bakken forewording the book, maybe we don't quite realise how important this thread Is? The traffic alone this thread must generate to maintain it's place permanently on the first page of training, must keep the brojos happy.
It's hard to ignore now, that this really is are the forefront of changing the narrative of how hobby joggers can train and spend their training hours. It also helps the guy seems very likeable as well.
Hi all, so I have attached my plan derived from sirpoc's marathon block. No personal "spins" or complications put on it, just rescheduling and volume reduction as copying the original 1-for-1 would have killed me dead.
Sadly I did not execute the whole sequence due to an injury sustained through strides (couldn't help myself, hadn't checked all my baggage at the door yet). Due to this I missed the middle portion, and, post-physio, I picked back up conservatively and made it as far as the biggest interval sessions (5×4K/4×5K), but there just isn't enough recovery time for the straight tempos before my race, so we'll have to see what happens without them.
Interested in feedback but also simply posting in case it helps anyone with a Mon-Fri job where 75mins in the morning may be absolutely stretching the limits of what you can do before work, and running after work is unproductive due to exhaustion/stress, so the long intervals have to be done on Saturday morning.
Plan for 2026 is a full year of vanilla NSA all the way racing only 5K's, 10K's, and a 10 miler at most. 2027 I'll be going for a HM at the start of the year to test how it's impacted me, then digging this marathon plan back out to try and execute it without injury.
One thing that has struck me from this thread is how many people have mentioned they have got injured directly doing strides. It's come up a number of times. Tbh, I was probably pro strides until recently and actually I would now probably sit on the side of the fence in terms of low reward, increased (although not super high) risk.
My main takeaway from this thread, aside from sirpoc becoming an internet (rightly so) hobby jogging hero, is reshaping what have been very common and mainstream conceptions about running. What he has done so well is put his hat in the ring so say 'hang on a minute, as an outsider let's reassess all of this and what makes sense for most of us', then brought a lot of things from different corners of sports, training and centralised it into something with a clear identity. Maybe that's what I'm just waking up to as a former skeptic and someone who thought this was just "another fad".
I'll be totally up front, whilst not a troll I thought all of this was silly. But seeing what it's become, grown into, others success, Bakken forewording the book, maybe we don't quite realise how important this thread Is? The traffic alone this thread must generate to maintain it's place permanently on the first page of training, must keep the brojos happy.
It's hard to ignore now, that this really is are the forefront of changing the narrative of how hobby joggers can train and spend their training hours. It also helps the guy seems very likeable as well.
Agreed - Sirpoc also has clearly spent time understandin what different types of run do to the body. One look at the NSA Strava/Reddit groups (and reddit in general) and you'll most people aren't looking at the why behind each run, what it does to your body and if you do 100 runs in a row - what do those individual runs add up to.
I too have been surprised at the reports of injuries from strides. Strides have always been seen as low risk/high reward. I wonder if people are carrying more fatigue in their legs with this method, than they feel and realise? Or are they doing them as sprints, which have always carried a higher risk?
Agreed - Sirpoc also has clearly spent time understandin what different types of run do to the body. One look at the NSA Strava/Reddit groups (and reddit in general) and you'll most people aren't looking at the why behind each run, what it does to your body and if you do 100 runs in a row - what do those individual runs add up to.
This. To be honest I assumed the whole thing was just about sub threshold. But that's the tip of the iceberg and I think why a lot of people are having huge success. It's about why you are doing that, what it all adds up to and quantifying consistency over the 100 days (or however long you mention) versus a hard week on its own. It sounds simple now I get it, but took a while to see the smoke through the trees.
Yeah, most people are just too dumb to do strides. Running them too hard or on tired legs is a great way to pull a hammy or injure the adductors.
And that's why with strides, if you don't feel like you're able to do them that day, you simply pass on them and wait for another day where you're feeling good, unlike a scheduled workout. I've never gotten injured doing strides - the only time I've actually strained a hammy going fast was doing hard 150s on the track in the rain.
Hi all, so I have attached my plan derived from sirpoc's marathon block. No personal "spins" or complications put on it, just rescheduling and volume reduction as copying the original 1-for-1 would have killed me dead.
Sadly I did not execute the whole sequence due to an injury sustained through strides (couldn't help myself, hadn't checked all my baggage at the door yet). Due to this I missed the middle portion, and, post-physio, I picked back up conservatively and made it as far as the biggest interval sessions (5×4K/4×5K), but there just isn't enough recovery time for the straight tempos before my race, so we'll have to see what happens without them.
Interested in feedback but also simply posting in case it helps anyone with a Mon-Fri job where 75mins in the morning may be absolutely stretching the limits of what you can do before work, and running after work is unproductive due to exhaustion/stress, so the long intervals have to be done on Saturday morning.
Plan for 2026 is a full year of vanilla NSA all the way racing only 5K's, 10K's, and a 10 miler at most. 2027 I'll be going for a HM at the start of the year to test how it's impacted me, then digging this marathon plan back out to try and execute it without injury.
I really appreciate how clearly and cleanly the marathon plan is laid out here. Thank you for sharing. Definitely screenshot-ed this for future reference.
I really appreciate how clearly and cleanly the marathon plan is laid out here. Thank you for sharing. Definitely screenshot-ed this for future reference.
No worries! But just to be clear it's *a* marathon plan, but definitely a bit different from *the* marathon plan if by that we mean sirpoc's build.
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