fax & logic wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Saw an interview with Chuck Schumer. He made the interesting point that many of the Republican senators watch Fox exclusively. Many are likely to be hearing the facts for the first time.
I wonder if he's right.
A couple of things...1) at least 15 GOP Senators were absent for large portions of the testimony yesterday. So, maybe they are hearing the facts on Fox but they are not hearing them unfiltered as they should be if they were doing their duty. 2) there may be enough GOP defections to call witnesses and get additional documents 3) In recent polls something like 70 % of those polled said the senate should call witnesses.
One thing I have not heard the talking heads point out regarding #2 and 3 above is this—despite the facts of the case and the fact that the Biden-Ukraine conspiracy has been definitely shown to be false AND a narrative pushed by Russia (our enemy)— the GOP Senators who might agree to call witnesses and some of those polled (those who lean right) saying they want the senate to call witnesses likely mean Biden and his Son (not Bolton, Pompeo, Mulvaney, etc) when they hear “witnesses”.
It is disturbing to watch the GOP handle this situation but it is also very clear that they don’t care or don’t believe that Trump did anything wrong here. They only appear to care about nominating RWNJ judges and overturning Roe v. Wade—that is what this is about. It’s maintaining power to control the courts. It’s about the culture war and social issues. See Bill Barr’s Norte Dame speech as exhibit A.
You wil start to hear more and more about the bolded and underlined point above. The above post from 6 days ago was spot on. I don't know why the media isn't getting the point that while "75% of those polled want witnesses in the Senate trial" many of those 75% are referring to witnesses like Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and Adam Schiff. There are a TON of RWNJs that are fixated on the neoptism of Biden, while ignoring that of Trump and his kids. While I agree nepotism is bad I would point out that other than critizing Trump for his nepotism, Dems are not actively trying to subponea Trump's kids to get them to testify to further injury his election challenges.
The Ukraine matter that the Dems are focusing on with impeachment is much more serious than what Clinton did (lying about sex). Trump is actively pursuing and lending credence to a narrative about Ukraine that is well-established to be dis-information put forth by one of the most diusgusting, corrupt, and pathetic countries in the world--Russia.