Alpha men Trump and Vance put a beat down on dictator Zelensky

You are correct. And that is why you are here.

I never said it was the only cause... I said it was the primary cause.

Google what the word "primary" means.

Rubber room.

yes on earth 2 every political party that exists immediately becomes a country’s ruling party

Going to lay out my full thoughts here, since we’re pretty far afield and this is a complex topic.

The specifics of the Treaty of Versailles were a factor in the rise of the Nazis, but a relatively minor one. The Treaty was the terms of Germany’s defeat in the First World War. The fact of that defeat left millions of veterans with a high capability for violence and a desire for revenge. This would have been true regardless of the treaty.

The economic crisis that immediately precipitated Hitler’s ascent to power was likewise not caused by the Treaty of Versailles. But it did leave many of those veterans unemployed and looking to join radical political movements such as the Nazis. As a result, Hitler was able to take power with a violent plurality.

The repeated failed communist uprisings, the history of European antisemitism, and the general lack of popular support and tradition for liberal democracy in Germany, were also important factors.

so was it the backdrop or stage? or was it a domino?

you must’ve written absolutely masterful research papers with all your mixed metaphors

See if you can find a map of Germany in 1914.

Then get with that other moron that's obsessed with Chamberlain and Poland and see if you can figure out what the Treaty of Versaille might have had to do with things.

I'm trying to dumb it down because you are clearly completely ignorant on the subject.

Let us know how the Treaty of Ver impacted Japan and Italy while you are at it

again your silver bullet historiography will surely pull something out of your A

Yeah dumbing things down is clearly not an issue for you

You should be writing much of what you dismissed down and destroying all your electronic devices

The treaty had a big impact on Italy. Naturally you're completely unaware of it...

You probably also don't realize that Japan isn't in Europe and wasn't involved in the treaty.

Anyone who thinks the Treaty of Versaille wasn't a primary cause of World War 2 is a moron.

But please keep thinking you're winning here... lol...

You like to google things and pretend you knew them before you googled them.

Google what the primary cause of World War 2 was.

very complex

and you and i are only laying out one country of the many moving parts of the war

but our friend sees things as obviously orchestrated by a single man at any one time

wow you really got me there

Japan wanted to be involved, though.

Being snubbed at Versailles helped Japan believe that naval buildup and expansionism was the best course.

Versailles probably is the most far-reaching event of the last 110 years.

worldhistory.org

The Causes of WWII

https://www.facebook.com/mark.cartwright.73/

The origins of the Second World War (1939-45) may be traced back to the harsh peace settlement of the First World War (1914-18) and the economic crisis of the 1930s, while more immediate causes were...

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That's weird... the top bullet is the treaty.

historyhit.com

5 Major Causes of World War Two in Europe

Simon Parkin

The causes of World War Two might seem simple, however, should you dig a little deeper into world politics at the time, you will notice a melting pot...

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Huh.. #1 is the treaty...

history.com

How the Treaty of Versailles and German Guilt Led to World War II | HISTORY

From the moment the leaders of the victorious Allied nations arrived in France for the peace conference in early 1919, the post‑war reality began to diverge sharply from Wilson’s idealistic vision.

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"Aside from affecting Germany, the Treaty of Versailles might have caused the Great Depression."

That's weird...

we already knew this was how you were getting all your information

thanks for the confirmation though muppet

and now you want to open another debate about the historical causes of the Great Depression

ffs mate stay in your lane

I’m not going to read through this entire thread. I will simply say that I found Trump’s behavior, per usual, appalling. I have no problem with them taking Zelensky to task for corruption, lack of accountability, and an unwillingness to settle the war behind closed doors, but to publicly flog him is embarrassing.

HAVING SAID THAT, I think some of Trump’s beef w Zelensky is that Biden flew Zelensky (taxpayer dime) to PA, of all places, THE potentially most significant swing state, last October and Zelensky and his entourage denigrated Trump/Vance. A move which I was completely appalled by at the time. So a little bit of payback.

Otherwise, he’s trying to “reset” the entire negotiation into making Europe step up way more than they ever have before (again, you don’t do it and alienate your historical allies). But the story of Ukraine is a complicated one. There was plenty of corruption and US interference that pre-dated Trump (one might see the connection to Hunter Biden’s pardon going all the way back to 2014, a very peculiar time, hmmm). Not to mention Nordstream 2 totally bypassing Ukraine such that Ukrainian and US oligarchs would no longer benefit. And, most importantly, Biden invited Russia to invade. The negotiation should’ve happened back in 2022.