I grew up in and still live in the Seattle area. I've been surrounded by people like you my entire life. I'm not a Trump supporter, but I do despise the psychological and personality profile of leftists, anyone beyond a center left or moderate individual. You're exhibiting the very behavior that makes you all so repulsive. The childishness, the avarice, the sadism, just, ick, independent of politics, you people truly are disgusting.
Anyone wondering why and how left wingers have been responsible for millions upon millions of deaths throughout the historical record, ask yourself: would I want Comrade Flagpole dispensing my weekly bread ration? I'm sure he'd be most kind and benevolent. **eye roll**
Interesting. Since you raised it, how do you feel about the "psychological and personality profile" of conservatives, "rightists", and regimes that have ruled in their name?
One thing I'll confidently say about the major left versus right wing regimes of the 20th C is: At least the former had ideals to betray!
Even if they'd been functional to any degree, and not simply war economies hopped up on animus towards their enemies, real or perceived, life Nazi Germany, Fascist Spain and Italy would not have been "commodius" for any but first class citizens, if you get the drift.
But, to the point of this discussion: There's nothing abnormal or cruel about enjoying the spectacle of a rich bully and coward getting some comeuppance. And though he probably doesn't deserve it, I'm sure he'll be treated fairly and humanely by both the system and the people charged with meting out whatever punishment he gets, even though he clearly doesn't respect it or them.
I'm politically moderate. I know, weird, right? I just find leftists to be particularly odious. Perhaps we go from some sources besides what your Marxist high school history teacher told you? From the left wing resource Wikipedia... I don't know, this seems pretty left wing to me...
The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of socialism, as an alternative to both Marxist international socialism and free-market capitalism. Nazism rejected the Marxist concepts of class conflict and universal equality, opposed cosmopolitan internationalism, and sought to convince all parts of the new German society to subordinate their personal interests to the "common good", accepting political interests as the main priority of economic organisation,[11] which tended to match the general outlook of collectivism or communitarianism rather than economic socialism.
Interesting. Since you raised it, how do you feel about the "psychological and personality profile" of conservatives, "rightists", and regimes that have ruled in their name?
One thing I'll confidently say about the major left versus right wing regimes of the 20th C is: At least the former had ideals to betray!
Even if they'd been functional to any degree, and not simply war economies hopped up on animus towards their enemies, real or perceived, life Nazi Germany, Fascist Spain and Italy would not have been "commodius" for any but first class citizens, if you get the drift.
But, to the point of this discussion: There's nothing abnormal or cruel about enjoying the spectacle of a rich bully and coward getting some comeuppance. And though he probably doesn't deserve it, I'm sure he'll be treated fairly and humanely by both the system and the people charged with meting out whatever punishment he gets, even though he clearly doesn't respect it or them.
Testimony by a woman lacking in morals, ethics, family values; taking advantage of a gullible media to make money. Insulting a US President and the office at large by allowing DT to commit adultery with her. Insulting a fellow woman, the 1st lady, as well. SD should be nicknamed STD, Stormy Troubled Daniels. In many other countries she'd be drawn and quartered.
He wasn't president in 2006 and his wife was once a sex traffic worker herself.
The Nazi genocides don't fit in with your vileness of the left thesis. Nor does America's several centuries of slavery. Selective vision?
The Nazis were socialists, guy. Being antisemitic isn't unique to any particular political persuasion surprisingly enough. Getting the mass murders of the Nazis added back to the leftist score card only 60 million by communists + 6 million Nazis (who were Honest Leftists)= 66 million murders conservatively by people with the psychological and personality profile of you and Flagpole.
This is beyond facile. Even the Nazis knew who the actual socialists were-- the SPD (largest socialist party in history) and the communists were among the Nazis first targets!
The Nazis were what they themselves called herrenvolk socialists. They were somewhat redistributive amongst citizens deemed first class by way or race and ethnicity, and they subordinated big capital to the demands of the war economy, but that's as far as their "socialism" ever went. The Jews, socialists, and other "enemies of the Reich" were not killed in the name of "socialist" ideals; they were killed as part of the war effort and to "purify" German society. National victory and "Aryan" racial superiority were their ideals, not universal human equality and dignity-- as per actual socialism.
Again, the 20C left at least had ideals to betray. The Nazi's, in contrast, stood for nothing redeeming whatsoever. They largely realized the society of their dreams, and it was a fetid, death worshipping, hellhole.
Trump is being booked for a clerical error, that is all. Actually, probably several clerical errors.
Trump has been humiliated. And his fans have made things worse with their poor showing today. I saw no moral defense at all. Just a handful of low-end followers. This was nothing like the January 6th-type uprising we were promised. What the hell happened? The turn out was disgusting. Even Beto Ore' Rouarke could pull a bigger crowd than this. Pathetic performance today. All of you guys.
The Nazis were socialists, guy. Being antisemitic isn't unique to any particular political persuasion surprisingly enough. Getting the mass murders of the Nazis added back to the leftist score card only 60 million by communists + 6 million Nazis (who were Honest Leftists)= 66 million murders conservatively by people with the psychological and personality profile of you and Flagpole.
This is beyond facile. Even the Nazis knew who the actual socialists were-- the SPD (largest socialist party in history) and the communists were among the Nazis first targets!
The Nazis were what they themselves called herrenvolk socialists. They were somewhat redistributive amongst citizens deemed first class by way or race and ethnicity, and they subordinated big capital to the demands of the war economy, but that's as far as their "socialism" ever went. The Jews, socialists, and other "enemies of the Reich" were not killed in the name of "socialist" ideals; they were killed as part of the war effort and to "purify" German society. National victory and "Aryan" racial superiority were their ideals, not universal human equality and dignity-- as per actual socialism.
Again, the 20C left at least had ideals to betray. The Nazi's, in contrast, stood for nothing redeeming whatsoever. They largely realized the society of their dreams, and it was a fetid, death worshipping, hellhole.
Yawn, you wrote a lot to essentially trot out the classic "they weren't actual ____" line. Perhaps the "actual" socialism or communism is, gasp, is as achievable as "actual" utopianism? Which is to say it's fairy foo foo impossible.
Edit: Credit for actually knowing your stuff though and offering up an actual response to my points.
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Trump is being booked for a clerical error, that is all. Actually, probably several clerical errors.
Will interfere with his campaign? Nope, it will not. Even if found guilty, which is likely given the judge's hatred for DJT, he will NOT see jail time and will win on appeal.
Now that Trump has been arrested, legal precedent has been set. Former Presidents can now be raided by the FBI & indicted by city prosecutors.
Dems are going to regret opening up this Pandora’s box.
Trump has officially been made a martyr. He will now win the 2024 presidential election in a landslide.
Thank you Democrats.
Please, please make him your party's nominee. We beg of you. PLEASE make him your nominee.
Hey Gary is back with more election predictions ! he’s the guy who guaranteed a red wave in 2022! he was as wrong as trump ! Fool!
1) Trump is my enemy ONLY because he is a criminal.
2) There is no proper way to look at Donald Trump and be moderate about him. He is an unhinged person and a career criminal. Yes he is also a horrible person, but today's ARREST of him is about his criminal behavior only. For a person who values justice and believes that the rule of law applies to EVERYONE, this is a great day.
3) You are a bad person for defending Trump in ANY way.
I grew up in and still live in the Seattle area. I've been surrounded by people like you my entire life. I'm not a Trump supporter, but I do despise the psychological and personality profile of leftists, anyone beyond a center left or moderate individual. You're exhibiting the very behavior that makes you all so repulsive. The childishness, the avarice, the sadism, just, ick, independent of politics, you people truly are disgusting.
Anyone wondering why and how left wingers have been responsible for millions upon millions of deaths throughout the historical record, ask yourself: would I want Comrade Flagpole dispensing my weekly bread ration? I'm sure he'd be most kind and benevolent. **eye roll**
Your post is crap. It is not childish to be for justice, and your second paragraph is fiction. Donald Trump is a criminal. I am for him being held accountable. If you can show that ANYONE else, including my own 81-year-old mother, is a criminal, then I will be for them being held accountable.
Testimony by a woman lacking in morals, ethics, family values; taking advantage of a gullible media to make money. Insulting a US President and the office at large by allowing DT to commit adultery with her. Insulting a fellow woman, the 1st lady, as well. SD should be nicknamed STD, Stormy Troubled Daniels. In many other countries she'd be drawn and quartered.
Please, please make him your party's nominee. We beg of you. PLEASE make him your nominee.
Hey Gary is back with more election predictions ! he’s the guy who guaranteed a red wave in 2022! he was as wrong as trump ! Fool!
Yeah, FOOLISH comment from Gary. Trump has lost support from Republicans since his loss in 2020 (when he was sh!tcanned by Biden). Trump has lost support from Independents since his loss in 2020 (when he was sh!tcanned by Biden). Americans have clearly stated we don't want a fascist dictator to be our President. He will NEVER win another election. He has not been made a martyr. Wishful thinking from a Trumper. Trump is simply a criminal who has finally been charged. It is not more complicated than that.
This is beyond facile. Even the Nazis knew who the actual socialists were-- the SPD (largest socialist party in history) and the communists were among the Nazis first targets!
The Nazis were what they themselves called herrenvolk socialists. They were somewhat redistributive amongst citizens deemed first class by way or race and ethnicity, and they subordinated big capital to the demands of the war economy, but that's as far as their "socialism" ever went. The Jews, socialists, and other "enemies of the Reich" were not killed in the name of "socialist" ideals; they were killed as part of the war effort and to "purify" German society. National victory and "Aryan" racial superiority were their ideals, not universal human equality and dignity-- as per actual socialism.
Again, the 20C left at least had ideals to betray. The Nazi's, in contrast, stood for nothing redeeming whatsoever. They largely realized the society of their dreams, and it was a fetid, death worshipping, hellhole.
Yawn, you wrote a lot to essentially trot out the classic "they weren't actual ____" line. Perhaps the "actual" socialism or communism is, gasp, is as achievable as "actual" utopianism? Which is to say it's fairy foo foo impossible.
Edit: Credit for actually knowing your stuff though and offering up an actual response to my points.
No! It's not that they claimed to be socialists but fell short of those ideals. They themselves knew they weren't socialists and said as much in both word and deed!
Their use of the word "socialist" in their name was for propaganda purposes, because actual socialism (i.e. of the internationalist, redistributive, worker's right kind) was extremely popular-- and, indeed, the main political rival to their form of authoritarian nationalism-- in Weimar Germany.
If you want to say both Stalinism and Nazism were forms of authoritarian nationalism with some redistributive aspects, I won't bother objecting. But to say that the Nazi's were socialists prevents us from understanding just about any aspect of 20C politics. ALL contemporary political actors, from FDR, to Churchill, to the leaders of the anti-colonial movements, understood that Nazis and Fascists were on the right and communists and socialist (in their many different varieties) were on the left.
You appear cocky way beyond the level of your actual historical knowledge.
Maybe I'm not well educated on the subject, but Germany's book banning/burning party of the 1930s and '40s seems more like our own book banning/burning party than the left leaning one. And let's not forget what Donald's good friend is trying to do to Ukraine.
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