This was a good post. The Trumpers who need their conspiracies to maintain their belief in their distorted realities think differently than most normal people. A couple things will be very characteristic of their thinking style. (1) Vigilance, it takes much continued effort to keep reality from seeping into their consciousness. They will post frequently and spend much time searching and researching for some tidbit to support their distorted view. (2) They have selective perception and a very active information filter, information to the contrary is ignored and information that is even remotely in the realm of possibility is thought of as most likely (example - the fake confession argument) (3) The paranoid slant, some bad evil group is behind this like the "liberal media" libs in general, the government.
Any challenge to their belief will cause them to exert more energy trying to protect their distorted view.
The reasons and facts regarding Paul Pelosi's attack are pretty obvious and likely and one needs to stretch and distort to try and not believe it.
Fact free argument.
Was there no security at the Pelosi home?
If there was, how did this guy get in?
If none, why wasn't there any?
Who opened the door while Pelosi and his assailant wrestled for the hammer.
Why was the glass outside the house if there was a break in?
Why are we not being shown the cops bodycam video?
Active information filter - information that has been well established is ignored
This was a good post. The Trumpers who need their conspiracies to maintain their belief in their distorted realities think differently than most normal people. A couple things will be very characteristic of their thinking style. (1) Vigilance, it takes much continued effort to keep reality from seeping into their consciousness. They will post frequently and spend much time searching and researching for some tidbit to support their distorted view. (2) They have selective perception and a very active information filter, information to the contrary is ignored and information that is even remotely in the realm of possibility is thought of as most likely (example - the fake confession argument) (3) The paranoid slant, some bad evil group is behind this like the "liberal media" libs in general, the government.
Any challenge to their belief will cause them to exert more energy trying to protect their distorted view.
The reasons and facts regarding Paul Pelosi's attack are pretty obvious and likely and one needs to stretch and distort to try and not believe it.
You are every bit as indoctrinated as you say the "Trumpers" are.
1 Vigilance - fast response post (always posting)
2 Distortion - my post referred to paranoid slant thinking groups like the media was evil, it didn't mention distrusting media
3 Distortion - logical not to believe everything from the media, but they generalize this into believing that the media made up the major facts of the Pelosi attack. That's a huge difference.
Note some politicians don't really believe in all these conspiracy ideas but lie about it (taking advantage of the conspiracy believers) for personal advantage.
There’s so much “criming” going on with the GOP and Trump that it’s becoming very hard to know what matters, what to focus on. From coup plots to the Big Lie grift to stealing top secret documents, it’s a big tangled mess. An...
I don’t think this has anything at all to do with trump conspiracy theories, but everything to do with shifting the focus of the basis for the incident.
As SF's gay bars closed at 2 am, two gay men met in a bar and went home together. Happens every night in the City by the Bay. Except one of these two men, was married to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. I might disappear for telli...
"Weird" how all the justice and carceral reform people are not, as of yet, concerned about DePape's rights as a prisoner.
Interesting SILENCE too as to who his lawyer was when he allegedly confessed so much to the FBI.
(Oh, but he's an illegal Canadian immigrant! He doesn't HAVE "rights"!)
What isn't weird is how the entire media has mobilized to try and exploit this mentally ill homeless person in order to maximize their benefit on election day.
Crimes by mentally ill homeless people and illegals happen every single day in California and the Democrats have never given a damn before. Forgive me if I don't think Democrats care now either.
What's weird is your preference not to address the most glaring fact in this situation.
Now tell me, if some crazed Trump hater broke into Trump's home and severely bludgeoned Melania with a hammer would you be posting asking why people are not as concerned about other crimes by "mentally ill homeless people".
Tell me that I am wrong, but I don't think you would be posting about issues other than the horrendous attack on Melania. (That's why the media is addressing and people are posting about the Pelosi attack, makes sense right? I mean the spouse of one of our major political leaders was attacked for political reasons - that's news and it should be well covered)
Trumpers will jump in and say it's the blue-run cities that cause these massive bumps in red-controlled states (guess those governors not doing their jobs, right?). But here are the deadliest cities:
Point being, if you want to be critical of crime going up, go for it. But it isn't a dem problem. That's a US problem. Lots of red and blue governors not doing their jobs.
Why do you lie like this? Are you making stuff up just to sound like you know something?
Sometimes, to ask the question is to answer it.
It is a tactic, popular but not exclusive to the online alt-right crowd to "flood the zone with sh1t" to numb the audience. The goal is not so much to change the truth as to so confuse the battle space as to render the truth irrelevant.
They're doing psyops under the protective umbrella of "free speech".
The truth is that Pelosi was attacked by a drug-addled, nudist from Canada with historically far left-winged political views who was semi-homeless and frequently resided in a hippie commune in Berkeley.
Since when is holocaust denying and believing that Democrats are running child sex rings a far-left political view. Let me guess, heard it from a Republican representative?
Since when is doing fistfuls of LSD and living in a nudist hippie commune in Berkeley a Republican trait? If I had a nickel for every Republican that was living in a school bus outside of a drug addled commune with rainbow coalition chairs and flags prominently on display, I’d be a poor man indeed.
You are every bit as indoctrinated as you say the "Trumpers" are.
1 Vigilance - fast response post (always posting)
2 Distortion - my post referred to paranoid slant thinking groups like the media was evil, it didn't mention distrusting media
3 Distortion - logical not to believe everything from the media, but they generalize this into believing that the media made up the major facts of the Pelosi attack. That's a huge difference.
Note some politicians don't really believe in all these conspiracy ideas but lie about it (taking advantage of the conspiracy believers) for personal advantage.
You believe what the media tells you believe without question.
When they change major facts in a story you don't bat an eye.
You're like a toddler who simply believes anything their parent says is true.
What isn't weird is how the entire media has mobilized to try and exploit this mentally ill homeless person in order to maximize their benefit on election day.
Crimes by mentally ill homeless people and illegals happen every single day in California and the Democrats have never given a damn before. Forgive me if I don't think Democrats care now either.
What's weird is your preference not to address the most glaring fact in this situation.
Now tell me, if some crazed Trump hater broke into Trump's home and severely bludgeoned Melania with a hammer would you be posting asking why people are not as concerned about other crimes by "mentally ill homeless people".
Tell me that I am wrong, but I don't think you would be posting about issues other than the horrendous attack on Melania. (That's why the media is addressing and people are posting about the Pelosi attack, makes sense right? I mean the spouse of one of our major political leaders was attacked for political reasons - that's news and it should be well covered)
You are so indoctrinated that you are oblivious to the double standard.
A Bernie bro tries to murder the entire Republican softball team and the media rushes out to declare it wasn't a political attack. The corrupt FBI declares it wasn't political at all and labels the attack as simply "suicide by cop".
Rand Paul gets viciously attacked in his own yard and the left laughs about it to this day.
A leftist tries to assassinate SCOTUS members and the left doesn't care at all.
If Melania got attacked in her home the left would love it. LOVE it.
There's a reason you morons dedicate all of your time to dehumanizing everyone you disagree with.
The right opposes all violence.
The left opposes violence against the "wrong" people.
What's weird is your preference not to address the most glaring fact in this situation.
Now tell me, if some crazed Trump hater broke into Trump's home and severely bludgeoned Melania with a hammer would you be posting asking why people are not as concerned about other crimes by "mentally ill homeless people".
Tell me that I am wrong, but I don't think you would be posting about issues other than the horrendous attack on Melania. (That's why the media is addressing and people are posting about the Pelosi attack, makes sense right? I mean the spouse of one of our major political leaders was attacked for political reasons - that's news and it should be well covered)
You are so indoctrinated that you are oblivious to the double standard.
A Bernie bro tries to murder the entire Republican softball team and the media rushes out to declare it wasn't a political attack. The corrupt FBI declares it wasn't political at all and labels the attack as simply "suicide by cop".
Rand Paul gets viciously attacked in his own yard and the left laughs about it to this day.
A leftist tries to assassinate SCOTUS members and the left doesn't care at all.
If Melania got attacked in her home the left would love it. LOVE it.
There's a reason you morons dedicate all of your time to dehumanizing everyone you disagree with.
The right opposes all violence.
The left opposes violence against the "wrong" people.
The right is making fun of this right now. They aren’t opposed to all violence.
I don’t think this has anything at all to do with trump conspiracy theories, but everything to do with shifting the focus of the basis for the incident.
That article is wrong on many counts and amounts to a political hit piece.
1) Paul is the one who called the police, with Depape in front of him, and pretended to be on the phone with a friend which is why he had to describe the situation in vague terms to dispatch.
2) "Pelosi owned the hammer" - false
3) "It's been a rumor for years in SF that Paul Pelosi is gay" - sure it has, citation needed
4) "the suspect was a gay Castro Nudist" - Depape is a nudist but he's married to a woman
5) Broken window - yes Depape broke the window, alarm wouldn't have been armed when Paul was home.
You should feel bad for falling for this hit piece and not researching. You are a bad libertarian, Gary Johnson and Spike Cohen would be ashamed to know you.
stopped reading this thread but I can see what is happening - the dumbsh/t fantasy right is just outlasting the factual community. They have stayed for the cray-cray but most of the others have left.
the trumpists simply want to win more than the normal people want it. That's why we will lose our democracy. The trumpists have more fun and they want to run the country by minority rule more than the rest of us want to run the country by majority rule.
So trump will win. this thread is a microcosm of the country's body politic.
Sorry America but we don't deserve a democracy anymore.
You are so indoctrinated that you are oblivious to the double standard.
A Bernie bro tries to murder the entire Republican softball team and the media rushes out to declare it wasn't a political attack. The corrupt FBI declares it wasn't political at all and labels the attack as simply "suicide by cop".
Rand Paul gets viciously attacked in his own yard and the left laughs about it to this day.
A leftist tries to assassinate SCOTUS members and the left doesn't care at all.
If Melania got attacked in her home the left would love it. LOVE it.
There's a reason you morons dedicate all of your time to dehumanizing everyone you disagree with.
The right opposes all violence.
The left opposes violence against the "wrong" people.
The right is making fun of this right now. They aren’t opposed to all violence.
I'm not talking about the morons on Twitter and social media I'm talking about main stream public figures.
Who opened the door while Pelosi and his assailant wrestled for the hammer.
Why was the glass outside the house if there was a break in?
Why are we not being shown the cops bodycam video?
It’s a pretty easy game to win if the premise is that you just have to ask a question to stay undefeated, so much so that even little kids beat grown ups at it by simply repeatedly asking “why that?” until they surrender.
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