Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Fat hurts wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

Exactly right. Coupled with his team identifying winnable states and plowing all of their time and effort into those states based on the demographics of those states, that is what helped them win it three years ago.

But hey go with Bernie and maybe he could pick AOC as his VP and spend his time in NY talking about student loan forgiveness and reparations. That’ll resonate well in Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania.

Point of information. AOC is not eligible to be VP because she is too young.

And stupid

And socialist

And irrelevant

Hillary/Democrats slept on these states the last time and paid the price, Trumps team identified an opportunity in these states and seized it.

All reasonable indications show Biden as the best bet in the states that will decide this election.

Polls also show a number of Warrens and Sanders policies as very unpopular. Policies like student loan forgiveness and reparations. Those policies will be hindrance to both candidates in those states, they won’t be for Biden because he doesn’t endorse those policies.

Trollminator wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

But Trumps team absolutely nailed the EC system last time round. It wasn’t luck.

I call it luck in that he was dealing with a unpopular opponent and complacent Dem electorate. I also call it luck that the stars aligned for him in terms of peak divisiveness in the country. He could not have won in any recent prior election. His ground game was solid though and I give him credit for taking an unorthodox approach in focusing on the emotions of seemingly disenfranchised americans. I think he executed his limited strategy as well as possible but couldn't have won without the adverse circumstances on left.

I agree with much of that, but flipping Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan & Pennsylvania wasn’t entirely luck. Ask yourself who is more likely to win those states based on research.

Biden may not be you first pick or mine but it’s uniformed to dismiss the research/polls and demographics of those states.

Trollminator wrote:

Serious q - why does there have to a prayer to open each day's proceedings?

That's a very good question. I was sitting with some activists in the gallery of the Georgia senate the other day when this very question came up.

Some of my ultra-liberal friends thought it was very strange and that it violates the separation of church and state.

I really don't think it does. The establishment clause covers making laws concerning religion and not allowing public prayer. A quick search found that the question once reached the Supreme Court but they refused to hear the case and instead decided it was prudent to defer to custom.

As a religious person myself, I like that they start with a prayer. I like the idea that our elected officials at least pretend to acknowledge being subject to a higher calling.

L L wrote:

agip wrote:

Dems have no fiery spokesman who can deliver the Dem message.

Sounds like you are making the case to go with Warren or Sanders.

well I hear you and that's fair

but warren and sanders are extremists - the party is center-left and they are far left. On the American scale, not the global scale.

So Sanders and Warren in fact aren't delivering the Democratic Party message - they are delivering some other message.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Point of information. AOC is not eligible to be VP because she is too young.

And stupid

And socialist

And irrelevant

I love it that you hate her.

AOC is awesome.

Fat hurts wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

Not in Wisconsin, Michigan & Pennsylvania.

Sure more Dems might come out for Bernie in NYC or SF but that won’t decide this EC election.

Bernie won the Michigan primary over Hillary.

Bernie won the Wisconsin primary over Hillary.

Those states have a lot more Bernie voters than you think.

Bernie is not polling as well as Biden in the states I’ve mentioned in a presidential election.

Hillary is gone now and a presidential election in the six states that Trump flipped is not the same as the Democrat primaries.

agip wrote:

L L wrote:

Sounds like you are making the case to go with Warren or Sanders.

well I hear you and that's fair

but warren and sanders are extremists - the party is center-left and they are far left. On the American scale, not the global scale.

So Sanders and Warren in fact aren't delivering the Democratic Party message - they are delivering some other message.

I personally don’t have any issue with Warren or Sanders but from an analysis point of view they are not as strong as Biden in Wisconsin, Ohio, Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida collectively. Those are the six states that Trump flipped from the Dems in 2016 and they will decide the election again this year.

First it was that Dems rammed through impeachment and didn't take their time, now defense team is saying getting Bolton's testimony would take too long and they have nothing to do with that - witnesses have no business being part of a trial... The guy WANTS to testify and was not allowed, there is no doubt about this. Also, he was a conservative champion on FOX but something changed this weekend - now they are starting to tear him down.

Trollminator wrote:

First it was that Dems rammed through impeachment and didn't take their time, now defense team is saying getting Bolton's testimony would take too long and they have nothing to do with that - witnesses have no business being part of a trial... The guy WANTS to testify and was not allowed, there is no doubt about this. Also, he was a conservative champion on FOX but something changed this weekend - now they are starting to tear him down.

He was called to testify a few weeks ago before the House and he refused.

He’s open to testify now before the senate in the knowledge that they won’t ask him to testify.

Treadhead wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Bernie won the Michigan primary over Hillary.

Bernie won the Wisconsin primary over Hillary.

Those states have a lot more Bernie voters than you think.

Bernie is not polling as well as Biden in the states I’ve mentioned in a presidential election.

Hillary is gone now and a presidential election in the six states that Trump flipped is not the same as the Democrat primaries.

Again, how Bernie and Biden poll head-to-head is not the relevant question. But even so, the margin is very close now in Wisconsin and Michigan as Bernie continues to surge. Bernie is also surging in Pennsylvania.

The real question is which candidate can excite the base in November. Bernie has proven that he has a lot of support in those three states. My thesis here is that the candidate most likely to win is the one who has the most dedicated supporters. Those supporters will bring our people to the polls. Bernie has the definite advantage here.

Fat hurts wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

Bernie is not polling as well as Biden in the states I’ve mentioned in a presidential election.

Hillary is gone now and a presidential election in the six states that Trump flipped is not the same as the Democrat primaries.

Again, how Bernie and Biden poll head-to-head is not the relevant question. But even so, the margin is very close now in Wisconsin and Michigan as Bernie continues to surge. Bernie is also surging in Pennsylvania.

The real question is which candidate can excite the base in November. Bernie has proven that he has a lot of support in those three states. My thesis here is that the candidate most likely to win is the one who has the most dedicated supporters. Those supporters will bring our people to the polls. Bernie has the definite advantage here.

You’re picking your favorite candidate and running with it against the best evidence we have. AOC announcing support at rallies in Queens isn’t how you win Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida collectively. Again many of Sanders and Warrens policies are particularly unpopular in those states. Trump will hammer those sound bytes to his benefit.

Respectfully your thesis is nonsense :) I’ll support any candidate ahead of Trump, you?

Fat hurts wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

Bernie is not polling as well as Biden in the states I’ve mentioned in a presidential election.

Hillary is gone now and a presidential election in the six states that Trump flipped is not the same as the Democrat primaries.

Again, how Bernie and Biden poll head-to-head is not the relevant question. But even so, the margin is very close now in Wisconsin and Michigan as Bernie continues to surge. Bernie is also surging in Pennsylvania.

The real question is which candidate can excite the base in November. Bernie has proven that he has a lot of support in those three states. My thesis here is that the candidate most likely to win is the one who has the most dedicated supporters. Those supporters will bring our people to the polls. Bernie has the definite advantage here.

I meant Bernie is not polling as well in head to head against Trump in those six states combined as Biden.

Should have been clearer.

SiIly WilIy wrote:

... Every single person I know- from both sides of the political spectrum- is much better off today than they were in 2016. ..

You are either lying or basically don't know anyone. The vast majority of people in the US are doing essentially the same today as they were in 2016.

I would say, please stop lying but I know that that is all you know how to do. So, lie away!

Yes. Like you, I'll support any candidate ahead of Tiny. In November, there is almost nobody who will vote based on policy positions. It's purely a vote for or against Tiny.

That's why my thesis is correct. It only matters which candidate can drive turnout. Bernie's supporters are clearly more excited and dedicated to do just that.

Fat hurts wrote:

I love it that you hate her.

AOC is awesome.

No surprise that an anxiety-ridden tzee would be very afraid of a harmless brown woman

Treadhead wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Again, how Bernie and Biden poll head-to-head is not the relevant question. But even so, the margin is very close now in Wisconsin and Michigan as Bernie continues to surge. Bernie is also surging in Pennsylvania.

The real question is which candidate can excite the base in November. Bernie has proven that he has a lot of support in those three states. My thesis here is that the candidate most likely to win is the one who has the most dedicated supporters. Those supporters will bring our people to the polls. Bernie has the definite advantage here.

I meant Bernie is not polling as well in head to head against Trump in those six states combined as Biden.

Should have been clearer.

That's even less relevant. In those polls, Biden and Bernie poll almost identically. Biden's slight edge is irrelevant to an election that is more than 9 months away.

If Bolton testifies that Trump directly told him he was holding Ukraine money until they publicly made accusations against the Bidens, do you really think that would get 20 Republicans to vote to convict?

It's probably politically better for Democrats that Republicans vote to not hear his testimony.

Fat hurts wrote:

That's why my thesis is correct. It only matters which candidate can drive turnout. Bernie's supporters are clearly more excited and dedicated to do just that.

There is one serious element to consider though - the right might be able to mobilize anti-trumpers against the evil socialist agenda. There are many Rs who regret their trump vote and are likely to stay home, but with a little nudge and injection of fear will swallow their pride and vote for him again.