Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

There is a big difference between a salesman and a political strategist.

A lot of things had to break Tiny's way to get elected. Tiny got lucky.

Respectfully your head seems firmly planted in the sand.

Trump got himself impeached and in normal times would be removed from office for going after Joe Biden.

In contrast he’s hardly wasted anytime going after Sanders and Warren combined.

agip wrote:

Part of that is the electoral college structure, but a lot more is about failure to have a message (what was HRC's message?) and to get people to vote.

Dems have no fiery spokesman who can deliver the Dem message.

You are making the case for Bernie here.

2020 will be a pure turnout election. Nobody is going to switch sides so it will come down to who gets their voters to the polls.

The case for Bernie is that he has hyper-dedicated supporters who will work night and day to make sure that happens.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

Yes 100%.

But he had his chance to testify a few weeks ago to the House and refused. He knows fine well that the Republican controlled Senate don’t want him to testify. He has spoken out both sides of his mouth and put book sales ahead of his duty.

History will also judge the Republican senators harshly who turned a blind to all of Trumps criminality.

You dimwits have turned a blind eye to Quid Pro Joe. Admit it.

Yes, so much so that even if he got elected and then impeached, we’d still support.

Can you believe trump doesn’t know Parnas or Fruman?

Smorbun wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

Trigged didn’t you claim Trump would never get impeached?

Or was that Sally?

It was Rigged. Biggest prediction fail ever on this site. No one should take him seriously. He's the dumbest poster here.

LOL!! We have the serial Flagpolian Flopper. Why don't look at the ?pole's batting average for the last 4 years and then get back to me.

You lose.

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

Part of that is the electoral college structure, but a lot more is about failure to have a message (what was HRC's message?) and to get people to vote.

Dems have no fiery spokesman who can deliver the Dem message.

You are making the case for Bernie here.

2020 will be a pure turnout election. Nobody is going to switch sides so it will come down to who gets their voters to the polls.

The case for Bernie is that he has hyper-dedicated supporters who will work night and day to make sure that happens.

Not in Wisconsin, Michigan & Pennsylvania.

Sure more Dems might come out for Bernie in NYC or SF but that won’t decide this EC election.

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

I'll disagree with you there - I think they are bloody brilliant at political strategy. Spanky might in fact be the world's greatest salesman - he found a need and a hunger and he met it with his product, incredibly effectively.

he focused on the upper midwest in 2016 and got it done perfectly.

he focused on uneducated whites and did it perfectly.

he focused on insulting his oponets and dragging them into the mud and he did it perfectly.

I think the Rs are a 90 on political strategy and the Ds are about a 45.

Ds right now have no idea how to win presidential elections. They are next to clueless.

There is a big difference between a salesman and a political strategist.

A lot of things had to break Tiny's way to get elected. Tiny got lucky.

Trumps team, not Trump as an individual absolutely nailed the EC system the last time. He swung several close states that typically leaned Democrat not because he offered student loan forgiveness or reparations, but because his team identified the demographics and desires of the clear majority of people in those states.

Biden has a far better chance of winning those battleground states, even if he isn’t my first choice.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

agip wrote:

+1, sorta.

We can in the Steyers, the Yangs, the trumps, the bloombergs, lots of unqualified people who could get elected president. leaving out the qualified populists like bernie. It's a stupid system.

furthermore, relying on IA and NH is beyond stupid. We're leaving MI, PA, WI for Trump to campaign in for months and months while our people are in electorally (almost) meaningless IA and NH.

And speaking of Michigan, abracadabra. More jobs.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2020/01/27/gm-detroit-hamtramck-poletown-assembly-plant-jobs/4564108002/

Trump wins again.

This announcement is because of GM's dedication to electric vehicles. This is a triumph for the Obama loans that funded Tesla and made electric vehicles cool. (And Tesla paid the taxpayers back 5 years early)

Meanwhile, GM has been closing plants that produce the gas guzzlers preferred by Trump.

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

I'll disagree with you there - I think they are bloody brilliant at political strategy. Spanky might in fact be the world's greatest salesman - he found a need and a hunger and he met it with his product, incredibly effectively.

he focused on the upper midwest in 2016 and got it done perfectly.

he focused on uneducated whites and did it perfectly.

he focused on insulting his oponets and dragging them into the mud and he did it perfectly.

I think the Rs are a 90 on political strategy and the Ds are about a 45.

Ds right now have no idea how to win presidential elections. They are next to clueless.

There is a big difference between a salesman and a political strategist.

A lot of things had to break Tiny's way to get elected. Tiny got lucky.

^This.

Perfect storm allowed Trump to win. Was a change election. No one really liked Hillary. Trump made huge promises that seemed interesting to many that he hasn't kept. He had Russian help after asking for it. He had third-party candidates take away significant votes from Hillary.

Is going to be much harder for Trump to win this time. He really needs all those people who voted for him last time to do so again, and that won't happen. Hillary is not the opponent. His term has been the most corrupt in the history of our country, and people know it. Demographics have continued to go against Trump. Dem. nominee will likely be either Biden or Sanders. Trump loses for sure to either of them.

Treadhead wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Those polls tell you nothing about the general election and they should be disregarded. The reason is that the election is still over 9 months away. That's a lifetime in politics.

Vote for the person you think would make the best president. Voting for the "safe choice" is how we got Hillary.

The general part doesn’t matter. The handful of states up for grabs do. That is what Trumps campaign got right the last time and that is what Democrats over looked the last time.

If you think running on a platform of student loan forgiveness and reparations is a better than Biden in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania then by all means go for it, but it will be four more years of Trump.

I don't know if I agree, but that's a much more rational argument for Biden than, "Vote for Biden because Tiny is scared of him."

You honestly think he just got lucky?

His team won 6 states in 2016 that Obama won in 2012. Those states were: Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio.

Sanders and in particular Warrens message just doesn’t resonate in those states. Hillary’s team f*cked it up and took most of those states for granted and she was just an unpopular candidate.

But Trumps team absolutely nailed the EC system last time round. It wasn’t luck.

Serious q - why does there have to a prayer to open each day's proceedings?

Treadhead wrote:

Monkeys typing wrote:

Trump didn't invent the strategy of using scare tactics, finding enemies of all sorts, demonizing them, then promising safety in the hands of a right-wing government that doesn't really serve the "kitchen table" interests of much of his base, but it's silly to think he's not damn good at it.

Exactly right. Coupled with his team identifying winnable states and plowing all of their time and effort into those states based on the demographics of those states, that is what helped them win it three years ago.

But hey go with Bernie and maybe he could pick AOC as his VP and spend his time in NY talking about student loan forgiveness and reparations. That’ll resonate well in Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania.

Point of information. AOC is not eligible to be VP because she is too young.

Fat hurts wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

The general part doesn’t matter. The handful of states up for grabs do. That is what Trumps campaign got right the last time and that is what Democrats over looked the last time.

If you think running on a platform of student loan forgiveness and reparations is a better than Biden in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania then by all means go for it, but it will be four more years of Trump.

I don't know if I agree, but that's a much more rational argument for Biden than, "Vote for Biden because Tiny is scared of him."

Sorry maybe I should have explained why Tiny is scared of Biden. Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania & Florida will decide the election. Tailor to their needs.

Rigged, Sally and all the rest of the Trump worshippers...............

Just out of curiosity, who could testify(that you would believe) about Trump holding back the aid in return for an announcement of investigations of the Bidens. Since Bolton and EVERYONE else is lying...please tell me who would make you say, Ok maybe he did it?

Fat hurts wrote:

Treadhead wrote:

Exactly right. Coupled with his team identifying winnable states and plowing all of their time and effort into those states based on the demographics of those states, that is what helped them win it three years ago.

But hey go with Bernie and maybe he could pick AOC as his VP and spend his time in NY talking about student loan forgiveness and reparations. That’ll resonate well in Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania.

Point of information. AOC is not eligible to be VP because she is too young.

That’s fair, but championing her and having her at rallies won’t help Sanders win Wisconsin, Ohio, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Florida or Michigan.

Trump would eat that up in those states.

Haha!!! None of you libs have the guts to risk a self ban by doing the Runningart challenge.

All talk, no action.

Treadhead wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

You are making the case for Bernie here.

2020 will be a pure turnout election. Nobody is going to switch sides so it will come down to who gets their voters to the polls.

The case for Bernie is that he has hyper-dedicated supporters who will work night and day to make sure that happens.

Not in Wisconsin, Michigan & Pennsylvania.

Sure more Dems might come out for Bernie in NYC or SF but that won’t decide this EC election.

Bernie won the Michigan primary over Hillary.

Bernie won the Wisconsin primary over Hillary.

Those states have a lot more Bernie voters than you think.

agip wrote:

Dems have no fiery spokesman who can deliver the Dem message.

Sounds like you are making the case to go with Warren or Sanders.