Monkeys typing wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
. . . And yes, my conservative friends think I am crazy.
See, bi-partisan consensus is possible.
Not along party lines though as many would say he's not crazy, just outrageously stupid
Monkeys typing wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
. . . And yes, my conservative friends think I am crazy.
See, bi-partisan consensus is possible.
Not along party lines though as many would say he's not crazy, just outrageously stupid
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
if the dude keeps on criming, then yes the Dems should keep investigating. I don't see how that is at all controversial. Esp since the investigations have each shown bad behavior.
So this (countless investigations) should be the new norm? Whichever party controls the House should just conduct countless investigations in to the president (assuming he is a member of the other party)?
So is it your point that Trump and his cronies have done nothing wrong? The investigations are all politically motivated with no real substance? Perfect call, no obstruction, no improper contact with Russians?
The real Pookie Washington wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
So this (countless investigations) should be the new norm? Whichever party controls the House should just conduct countless investigations in to the president (assuming he is a member of the other party)?
So is it your point that Trump and his cronies have done nothing wrong? The investigations are all politically motivated with no real substance? Perfect call, no obstruction, no improper contact with Russians?
Sally has already agreed that he committed an impeachable offense, so in his view it's more about letting him get away with it
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Question for my Dem/progressive friends here ... Let's say Trump is acquitted by the Senate. Come November Trump will have been investigated for four years (Mueller, impeachment, etc.). And let's say he is fortunate enough to win re-election. House Dems have already promised to continue investigating him. Will there ever be a time when you say enough is enough? Would you advocate another 4 years of endless investigations of the guy? Do we really want a president investigated for all 8 years of his presidency? Again, is there a time when you might say enough is enough?
if the dude keeps on criming, then yes the Dems should keep investigating. I don't see how that is at all controversial. Esp since the investigations have each shown bad behavior.
CORRECT! What Sally doesn't understand is that these investigations have nothing to do with each other. It's a false premise he has that Democrats are just trying to do anything they can to "get" Trump. Trump just keeps on behaving in a way that warrants investigation. It doesn't matter if a person has been investigated for 40 years and not found guilty of anything...if he then goes out and murders someone and there is evidence he did so, he goes to prison. Trump is a criminal with a criminal mind and demeanor. He won't stop being that. If he is acquitted and if he were to be elected for a second term, there is no telling what he will do. Right now, at least he is beholden to his base. He will be completely untethered if he gets a second term. He eventually distances himself from all friends or throws them under the bus. It is insane to believe he would never do anything down the line to piss off gun owners or pro-lifers. He has already made the NRA sweat more than any President in my lifetime. I have said this before, but part of me is REALLY interested to see what would happen if he gets a second term, but not enough to wish for it or vote for it.
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
if the dude keeps on criming, then yes the Dems should keep investigating. I don't see how that is at all controversial. Esp since the investigations have each shown bad behavior.
So this (countless investigations) should be the new norm? Whichever party controls the House should just conduct countless investigations in to the president (assuming he is a member of the other party)?
No dumb*ss. No other President has even near approached this level of corruption. The House has a DUTY to investigate improper behavior by the President. Trump gave the House reason to do it. What the hell is wrong with you?
When did the Whitewater investigations start? '92? Earlier? That resulted in Clinton's impeachment over something unrelated.
How about Nixon? When was the Watergate break-in? When did Nixon resign?
4 years is a short about of time when it comes to investigating corruption.
If Trump would stop doing shady questionable things he would be fine.
Alan
I'm amazed at the level of hypocrisy on display by the Republicans. If Obama did anything close to what Trump did, they'd have impeached, no question. These are the people who needed 11 Benghzai investigations for crying out loud.
Trollminator wrote:
Monkeys typing wrote:
See, bi-partisan consensus is possible.
Not along party lines though as many would say he's not crazy, just outrageously stupid
Yep. I go with outrageously stupid for Sally.
Tom Cotton laughs during the presentation on the Bidens. Same dude who held up a Bahamas ambassadorship to inflict “special pain” on Obama. What a racist.
Timmy Treadwell wrote:
I'm amazed at the level of hypocrisy on display by the Republicans. If Obama did anything close to what Trump did, they'd have impeached, no question. These are the people who needed 11 Benghzai investigations for crying out loud.
In their view, since the American people wanted Trump then they best just jump on the bandwagon otherwise could be out of a job. If the Dems took to this view too then they wouldn’t be impeaching, yet they went ahead and did the right thing anyway. There are very few republicans left with any spine.
Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Not along party lines though as many would say he's not crazy, just outrageously stupid
Yep. I go with outrageously stupid for Sally.
My hope for humanity makes me pray that Sally Vix is the creation of someone in jest, a sort of Archie Bunker for the internet days--though I'd take Archie over Sally any day.
Esterhazy wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Yep. I go with outrageously stupid for Sally.
My hope for humanity makes me pray that Sally Vix is the creation of someone in jest, a sort of Archie Bunker for the internet days--though I'd take Archie over Sally any day.
The beauty of Archie Bunker is that despite being racist and not bright, he was still a sympathetic and even lovable character. That show was amazing. Carrol O'Connor was an incredible actor. I can't believe he has been gone nearly 19 years now.
Flagpole wrote:
Esterhazy wrote:
My hope for humanity makes me pray that Sally Vix is the creation of someone in jest, a sort of Archie Bunker for the internet days--though I'd take Archie over Sally any day.
The beauty of Archie Bunker is that despite being racist and not bright, he was still a sympathetic and even lovable character. That show was amazing. Carrol O'Connor was an incredible actor. I can't believe he has been gone nearly 19 years now.
You need to be careful of the accusations you are throwing around. If Trump was not such a public figure, you could be prosecuted for slander. Do you know what slander means? Remember Richard Jewell? Everyone was certain he was responsible for the bombings. What happened to that? The guy's life was destroyed. Trump has never been convicted of anything. To keep calling him a criminal when he has never been convicted of anything is criminal. Let the guy have his due process. Do you know about due process?
Esterhazy wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Yep. I go with outrageously stupid for Sally.
My hope for humanity makes me pray that Sally Vix is the creation of someone in jest, a sort of Archie Bunker for the internet days--though I'd take Archie over Sally any day.
Archie Bunker was a racist. A loveable one but still a racist. I have never made any racist comments. I have only said that Trump is owed due process, which is something you LIbs/Dems have no desire of giving him. You Dems/Libs are the same as the old westerns who take out the accused and hang him up without any due process. Just a shame how crazy you crazed anti-Trumpers have become. Your rage at Trump doesn't allow you to think clearly. Again, he deserves due process. Flagpole has already appointed himself as judge, jury and executioner. He has no concern for due process. Flagpole knows Trump is a criminal even despite that Flagpole has never seen the evidence. Flagpole you are worse than ARchie Bunker. Much much worse.
You must be deaf, trump has already admitted several crimes. His defense is that he’s above the law.
Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
So this (countless investigations) should be the new norm? Whichever party controls the House should just conduct countless investigations in to the president (assuming he is a member of the other party)?
No dumb*ss. No other President has even near approached this level of corruption. The House has a DUTY to investigate improper behavior by the President. Trump gave the House reason to do it. What the hell is wrong with you?
Name-calling makes you look very petty, Flagpole. I strongly disagree with you but I don't engage in name-calling with you. I respect your views. You have sunk to new lows with name-calling. That is what high school kids do. Not grown-ups.
baddddy paul wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
The beauty of Archie Bunker is that despite being racist and not bright, he was still a sympathetic and even lovable character. That show was amazing. Carrol O'Connor was an incredible actor. I can't believe he has been gone nearly 19 years now.
You need to be careful of the accusations you are throwing around. If Trump was not such a public figure, you could be prosecuted for slander. Do you know what slander means? Remember Richard Jewell? Everyone was certain he was responsible for the bombings. What happened to that? The guy's life was destroyed. Trump has never been convicted of anything. To keep calling him a criminal when he has never been convicted of anything is criminal. Let the guy have his due process. Do you know about due process?
You just posted, "To keep calling him a criminal when he has never been convicted of anything is criminal"
Do you see the irony in that statement?
Truth b told2 wrote:
baddddy paul wrote:
You need to be careful of the accusations you are throwing around. If Trump was not such a public figure, you could be prosecuted for slander. Do you know what slander means? Remember Richard Jewell? Everyone was certain he was responsible for the bombings. What happened to that? The guy's life was destroyed. Trump has never been convicted of anything. To keep calling him a criminal when he has never been convicted of anything is criminal. Let the guy have his due process. Do you know about due process?
You just posted, "To keep calling him a criminal when he has never been convicted of anything is criminal"
Do you see the irony in that statement?
No. But nice try. The first usage of "criminal" was in a legal sense. Trump has never been convicted of a crime. The second usage was not in a legal sense but describing how calling Trump as a criminal was unjust.
agip wrote:
Solid summary of the case from the Fox News legal analyst, Napolitano.
He concludes the Senate should remove Trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trumps-senate-impeachment-trial-judge-andrew-napolitano
Pencil Neck lectured senators for not calling witnesses which "he himself had refused to call.” LOL!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/21/adam-schiff-lectures-senate-donald-trump-impeachme/Trump will be acquitted.
Trump will be reelected.
KAG2020
The problem is you’re a criminal, sally (unregistered foreign agent), so you have no credibility.