TroLLminator wrote:
Are you going to include FOX in your analysis?
kekistani wrote:One of you trump-hating libs should compile a list of trump's 'indisputable' lies.
Then I'll compile a list of Obama's (or hillary's if you'd like). Then we can talk about which list the media has talked about incessantly and which list has been largely ignored. Then, perhaps, you'll begin to understand why so many ppl are sick and tired of media double standards.
Will you use CNN in yours?
0/10 for your fantasy facts
TroLLminator wrote:
0.5/10 for your excitement level
surely U boast wrote:Yes, when Lillary and Obummer did the same thing, over and over, you didn't bother to complain about it. My suggestion to you---too bad. I'd take Trump and his advisors over those 2 losers 8 days a week. Barack had so many presidential promises that he didn't fulfill, it's sickening. Give Trump 4 years and see what happens. I bet in the end he does more good than Clinton and Obummer combined...but you'll disagree, and I love it!!!!! Sucks to be a Democrat right now and I find that "Hillary-ious"!!!!!
Unlike you and so many, I was not under the illusion that Obamacare was going to be cheaper. In fact, since we finally trying to do the right thing and get the whole country covered, I expected to be paying a lot more. Our country is sick and our healthcare system needed to be reformed. Given the amount of scrutiny and buy in it needed, I think ACA was a good start. Your view is short sided - kicking the can down the road isn't going to fix the problem or lower healthcare costs in the long run. If you take ACA away, our country still remains sick, but the difference is it'll continue to get sicker at a much faster pace and the cost will be that much higher later. You seem to think you will be shielded from the burden. It is EVERYONE's problem, period. A little piece of fact for you. Hospitals will never turn people away from emergency care, that is the law. When people don't have access to preventive care, they wait until their issues becomes emergencies then they go to the hospital. The bills are high and if those individuals can't pay, the state has to foot the bill. YOU foot the bill through your taxes. Either way, we all foot the bill, so I prefer to pay more now so everyone is covered than to keep kicking the can and having to pay more for everyone's emergency care. Enlighten us all - how is pulling coverage from millions going to alleviate the country's healthcare problems?
get with the program Spanky wrote:
My question is, how's your deductible working out for ya? Oh that's right, you're on the left and want people to pay more so you don't have to pay your deductible, right?
Obama's pitch to the public was a lie, and he admitted that no one knows what's in because there's too much---so who wrote it?
Whenever it gets replaced it'll be better than Obama's crap! Total lie and if you know anyone who's in the medical field, they'll tell ya (sure, I know, you're a doctor).
Hospitals can't turn you away, but when the bills come and people don't pay, guess what?
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS EITHER PAL! I know, you're right and I'm wrong and you're going to tell me how with details and facts.
L L wrote:I will give you that it took a year to pass Obamacare.
My question is how is the promised replacement going?
I'm not judging this by media opinions.
I am looking at the details of the House bill passed and the Senate proposal and the words of Trump.
The details are that of their ideas pass, millions lose coverage. That's the CBO scoring and that is also obvious when you look at what is taken away in either the form of subsidies or medicaid contraction.
I am looking at the fact the they were supposed to vote by July 4th and kicked than can because they didn't have the votes.
I am looking at the fact that every change they make to appease strong conservatives, they lose moderate Republicans.
And every change they make to appease moderate Republicans, they lose strong conservatives.
They do not have the votes to get 50 of 52 Republicans to agree.
They Democrats have in place what they want and would only amend it, not replace it.
And the president has no pitch to the public.
You want to discuss it?
Either moderates or conservatives have to bend.
Who will bend to get it done?
I won't use any, unlike a lot of people I know how to differentiate between reporting of news and biased opinions. It's pretty easy actually, give it a try and maybe you won't complain so much about the MSM.
This is CNN wrote:
TroLLminator wrote:Are you going to include FOX in your analysis?
Will you use CNN in yours?
TroLLminator wrote:
Are you going to include FOX in your analysis?
kekistani wrote:One of you trump-hating libs should compile a list of trump's 'indisputable' lies.
Then I'll compile a list of Obama's (or hillary's if you'd like). Then we can talk about which list the media has talked about incessantly and which list has been largely ignored. Then, perhaps, you'll begin to understand why so many ppl are sick and tired of media double standards.
Bwahahaha... nothing screams "I'm a robot" more than this question. Fox certainly has its agenda, but your denial and delusion is even more comical, and concerning.
Keep being programmed by CNN, MSNBC, HuffPost, Atlantic, NYT, Wash Post, BuzzFeed, Vice...
Conundrum wrote:
If the purpose of your post was to humiliate me, rest assured, I turned a deep shade of purple from embarrassment at the mommy and the terribly pathetic references.
If that is what you wanted, you should be happy now.
kekistani wrote:You sound like you are trying to be everyone's mommy here.
Hate to break it to you but you're really not. And your attempts make you look terribly pathetic.
Maybe you could try to post something of substance and leave the mommy stuff for your family (if you even have one).
I bet you thought that was especially clever rhetoric. Gave yourself a good pat on the back?
Good job, sweetie.
This is CNN wrote:
TroLLminator wrote:Are you going to include FOX in your analysis?
Will you use CNN in yours?
That sounds like a "yes".
I'm going to give you that one. I'll admit I kind of deserved it.
kekistani wrote:
Conundrum wrote:If the purpose of your post was to humiliate me, rest assured, I turned a deep shade of purple from embarrassment at the mommy and the terribly pathetic references.
If that is what you wanted, you should be happy now.
I bet you thought that was especially clever rhetoric. Gave yourself a good pat on the back?
Good job, sweetie.
You people are so obsessed with the MSM. Since when did they not operate to maximize ratings? What rock have you people been living under this whole time that suddenly you woke up to the big bad fake news? Stop obsessing and use your brains to differentiate between fact reporting and biased analysis. There are plenty of sources of information to choose from, why are you so obsessed with the left-leaning agencies? I see nothing but a bunch of crybabies trying to blame the messenger. It's convenient now isn't it?
Wtfunnyhowareya wrote:
This is CNN wrote:Will you use CNN in yours?
That sounds like a "yes".
Your level of denial, is striking.
"Hey, nevermind the propaganda, and its obvious effectiveness in millions! It's just simply for ratings!... and those partisan agency's, nevermind them either! It's just government!"
Leon Trollsky wrote:
TroLLminator wrote:Are you going to include FOX in your analysis?
Bwahahaha... nothing screams "I'm a robot" more than this question. Fox certainly has its agenda, but your denial and delusion is even more comical, and concerning.
Keep being programmed by CNN, MSNBC, HuffPost, Atlantic, NYT, Wash Post, BuzzFeed, Vice...
Did you all see that charming correction Fox had to make? Those guys and gals are WH spokesmen.
All day Fox repeated the WH lies that Comey leaked classified material. One show after the next. Called Comey a criminal, said he leaked classified info. Huge talking point, straight from Trump.
Of course that turned out to be utterly false, so they issued a 5 second correction the next day. And then back to their Pravda imitation.
I am not exaggerating this at all. I suspect all the trumpers on this thread still think Comey leaked classified info.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fox-friends-corrects-misleading-report-comey-memo-leaks-article-1.3317865You ramble, Spanky.Try using coherent, declarative sentences.
get with the program Spanky wrote:
You don't do very well at simple comprehension there, do you?
Obama's pitch to the public was a lie?
How's your deductible working out for ya?
You're on the left and want people to pay more so you don't have to...?
That's not rambling, you're just not very good at understanding easy questions;)
I'll let you re-read and re-think your "very hard to decipher your rambling" comment. I'll check back and give more hints if you need them.
Btw, the rambling comment is hilarious. That's like the majority of your posts.
Fat hurts wrote:It's very hard to decipher your rambling. Are you for Obamacare or are you against it?
Again, what rock have you been hiding under for all these decades? But ok lets play your game. Millions login to facebook everyday to get their newsfeeds. Whether you like it or not, even if they know some or all the stuff they read could be fake or unsubstantiated, they still absorb it and often take it seriously. What do you suggest be done? Should government ban FB, all these little online headline agencies, and the big media outlets for putting spin on everything? Define propaganda and give us some clear examples. Go ahead, since you've identified a structural problem with our media, explain how to alleviate the issue. I really want your opinion on this.
Leon Trollsky wrote:
Your level of denial, is striking.
"Hey, nevermind the propaganda, and its obvious effectiveness in millions! It's just simply for ratings!... and those partisan agency's, nevermind them either! It's just government!"
"Trump speaks to White House reporters off the record, then wonders why it wasn’t published"
Trump proves his IQ cannot be above 80.
Are you fvcking serious? I'm 20 years old and I got after reading it once. Are you super old or on drugs? He's against Obamacare, how much clearer can he get? What douche bag and a half!
Fat hurts wrote:
You ramble, Spanky.
Try using coherent, declarative sentences.
get with the program Spanky wrote:You don't do very well at simple comprehension there, do you?
Obama's pitch to the public was a lie?
How's your deductible working out for ya?
You're on the left and want people to pay more so you don't have to...?
That's not rambling, you're just not very good at understanding easy questions;)
I'll let you re-read and re-think your "very hard to decipher your rambling" comment. I'll check back and give more hints if you need them.
Btw, the rambling comment is hilarious. That's like the majority of your posts.
It's obviously above yours;).
Trump the Leakers wrote:
"Trump speaks to White House reporters off the record, then wonders why it wasn’t published"
Trump proves his IQ cannot be above 80.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/07/13/trump-speaks-to-white-house-reporters-off-the-record-then-wonders-why-it-wasnt-published/
I honestly think a solid 1/3 of the mistrust held by trumpers for the media is based on the ignorance of trumpers. Things like this, things like not understanding the difference between an editorial and a news piece, things like most handouts going to white people, things like how illegal immigrants supply so much money to Social Security....
speederman33 wrote:
It's obviously above yours;).
Trump the Leakers wrote:"Trump speaks to White House reporters off the record, then wonders why it wasn’t published"
Trump proves his IQ cannot be above 80.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/07/13/trump-speaks-to-white-house-reporters-off-the-record-then-wonders-why-it-wasnt-published/
Another day, another broken trump promise. Trumpers....trumpers...trumpers....
Although this one is actually a good idea. Bravo to Donald J Trump for keeping the Iran deal in place.
Trump, the brilliant thinker and humanitarian:
Trump also says the fence needs to be see-through, in part to help avoid injuries from sacks of drugs being tossed over the barrier.
eric a blair wrote:
I honestly think a solid 1/3 of the mistrust held by trumpers for the media is based on the ignorance of trumpers. Things like this, things like not understanding the difference between an editorial and a news piece, things like most handouts going to white people, things like how illegal immigrants supply so much money to Social Security....
speederman33 wrote:It's obviously above yours;).
UPDATE: Deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders tells the Erik Wemple Blog via email: “The conversation was off the record but we are going to put out excerpts of the conversation.†That’s a strange pledge. Did the White House record the off-the-record session? Isn’t it the job of journalists to publish the interview? And how will the journalists agree to publish only excerpts? That would appear to resemble the much-dreaded practice of quote approval.