Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

True. No one needs to try to find the real truth because they already know it. All they need to do is to search for evidence to prove what they already know.😎

6th grade Sam wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

I hope you understand that this is not a war. The lrc competition between pro and anti Trump supporters doesn't mean a thing.

But at its base our discussions are a search for the truth. One version is that Trump is a great president who has not been treated fairly. Another version is that he is a dishonest lazy president who is only motivated by his own personal needs.I

A mature discussion is at its heart a search for the truth. Granted emotions can flare. The purpose is not solely a competition to see who wins the most points. Avoiding the discussion of Donald jr's behavior so that one can pounce later makes it seem like you are only interested in scoring points in some competition rather than finding the truth.

I hope that is not true.

Hilarious

Good job!

Donnie jr strikes me as the type of guy who would have a sincere concern about the plight of orphans. He surely must have been disappointed when he realized the discussion would not help orphans but was "nonsensical"

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Rufus Washington wrote:

Also someone please explain to me why everyone is taking for granted nothing came out of this meeting? Lil Donnie, Big Donnie and the rest of this regime are proven LIARS so I don't believe for a second that the meeting yielded no info.

Someone somewhere noted the date and time of the meeting in the email and looked at the clown's twittering feed around the same time.

A funny thing happened a few hours after the meeting on the twittering.

What happened to a meeting about 'orphans?' I can't keep up with the excuses.

Conundrum wrote:

Donnie jr strikes me as the type of guy who would have a sincere concern about the plight of orphans. He surely must have been disappointed when he realized the discussion would not help orphans but was "nonsensical"

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Someone somewhere noted the date and time of the meeting in the email and looked at the clown's twittering feed around the same time.

A funny thing happened a few hours after the meeting on the twittering.

What happened to a meeting about 'orphans?' I can't keep up with the excuses.

Stop it, Donnie Jr. loves orphans and killing large animals in Africa. Donnie Sr is now praying in the Oval office and pissing on Russian hookers in Moscow. They are truly a high character family.

That's an interesting question. I just read an article in Politico which stated that Trump's base sees this all as a witch hunt and a reflection of the fake media colluding with the democrats. Trump obviously hold much away over how they see things.So what would make them change their mind? The human need to reduce cognitive dissonance is very powerful. I think when presented with dissonant information a number of strategies will be employed: attack the person presenting information (fake news), divert the discussion to another issue (Hillary) or simple denial. The next stage of dealing with dissonance is to accept as something bad but that everyone does it and it's normal. The last stage is not admitting that you were wrong but losing interest in the topic because it's all bad and not worth your time.So my answer is basically nothing will convince them that they are wrong. But we all use defenses to reduce dissonance. No one is immune from it. (But I still know they are wrong.)

Eric a blair wrote:

Fats, ll, pop, conundrum and other anti trumpers: since the trumpers clearly don't care about admitted collusion with a hostile power, do you think there is ANY story that could cause Trump to lose say a third of his base? Are they completely inoculated against bad news now?

Remember that the trump family mocked the collusion investigation even as they knew about collusion. They lied right to their supporters but their supporters don't care .

Serious question. What would dislodge them?

lololol all the repubs and conservatives leave the board and the frothing libs keep circle jerking back and forth about how "we got him this time!" lol

same ol'echochamber, no wonder the Dems can't win an election

Conundrum wrote:

That's an interesting question. I just read an article in Politico

Oh that's cute, was it this one?

This is the reason ppl are straying from the russia crap. they're tired of the double standard. the media has been covering the dems asses the whole time. they don't mention any of the crap. your selective moral outrage has become more transparent than ever. it's called, you guys are cucks. that's what it is. it's that simple. ppl don't like it, nobody likes double standards, except for partisan hack cucks like the libturds on this board. you guys are cucks and you cream your panties at stories that time and time again go nowhere. plenty of ppl just sit back and laugh

meanwhile obama and hillary are destined for jail. mark. my. words. you dumb libs have been wrong about virtually everything, so laugh and criticize. you're too dumb to know when you're wrong. you voted for a pedophile-lover. you're idiots. honestly, yall are a joke. nobody likes you. you're pathetic.

Conundrum wrote:

makes it seem like you are only interested in scoring points in some competition rather than finding the truth.

I hope that is not true.

I don't know where you've been since the middle of 2016, but basic facts, and history are all mutable now. It's not lying any more, it's "alternative facts."

A meeting claimed to:

A. Never happened.

B. Was about orphans

C. Was not support from Russia

D. No one of importance was there.

E. Was so unimportant that the most senior campaign members attended.

Whatever appeals in the moment is true.

Tomorrow there will be more excuses. Every one of them true, until they aren't useful any more. And then they vanish.

Conundrum wrote:

True. No one needs to try to find the real truth because they already know it. All they need to do is to search for evidence to prove what they already know.😎

6th grade Sam wrote:

Hilarious

Good job!

You really don't get much of what is going on around you, do you?

That noted uber-liberal Charles Krauthammer seems to think there was collusion.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5504973909001/?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313#sp=show-clips

"The damage done by this story is enormous"

"I supported that line (that there was no collusion) because there was no evidence for it. But now you see the evidence loud and clear."

"Attempted collusion is still collusion."

"I always said, 'I don't see any collusion but I'm open to empirical evidence. This is the first empirical evidence"

Tick, tick, tick.

Next year in 7th grade it will all make sense to you.

6th grade Sam wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

True. No one needs to try to find the real truth because they already know it. All they need to do is to search for evidence to prove what they already know.😎

You really don't get much of what is going on around you, do you?

I don't disagree with that. But that is not contrary to anything that I have posted.The "I hope that is not true" was a bit tongue in cheek but is still probably applicable to everyone.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

makes it seem like you are only interested in scoring points in some competition rather than finding the truth.

I hope that is not true.

I don't know where you've been since the middle of 2016, but basic facts, and history are all mutable now. It's not lying any more, it's "alternative facts."

A meeting claimed to:

A. Never happened.

B. Was about orphans

C. Was not support from Russia

D. No one of importance was there.

E. Was so unimportant that the most senior campaign members attended.

Whatever appeals in the moment is true.

Tomorrow there will be more excuses. Every one of them true, until they aren't useful any more. And then they vanish.

I need to clarify something about what I posted earlier. I do not at all think both sides of the Trump issue are in any way equally valid. I believe the more emotional and ego involved someone is in an issue the less they will be able to use reason to mitigate the effects of cognitive dissonance. Looking at the posts, it's clear the pro trump people are the most emotional and using the most defense mechanisms.However we all are affected by selective perception, the need to reduce dissonance and by the need to score points against those who differ. We would be deceiving ourselves if we thought we were immune to these effects.Back to Eric's question I think the pro trump people are too enmeshed into supporting Trump. It's part of them. They could never admit they were wrong on this without a major blow to their perception of themselves and the world. I don't see it happening.

Conundrum wrote:

I don't disagree with that. But that is not contrary to anything that I have posted.

The "I hope that is not true" was a bit tongue in cheek but is still probably applicable to everyone.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

I don't know where you've been since the middle of 2016, but basic facts, and history are all mutable now. It's not lying any more, it's "alternative facts."

A meeting claimed to:

A. Never happened.

B. Was about orphans

C. Was not support from Russia

D. No one of importance was there.

E. Was so unimportant that the most senior campaign members attended.

Whatever appeals in the moment is true.

Tomorrow there will be more excuses. Every one of them true, until they aren't useful any more. And then they vanish.

I thought you started with a good post (I didn't agree - but it was a argument I respected) but then your post quickly deteriorated into some ranting and naming calling which completely diminished any effectiveness of your message. Too bad.

Trump supporters are happiest when Liberals are complaining. It doesn't matter about what -- healthcare, climate change, or Trump himself.

Trump supporters would be happy to see the country burned to the ground, as long as it made Liberals upset.

Tri Guy Banana Hammock wrote:

Trump supporters are happiest when Liberals are complaining. It doesn't matter about what -- healthcare, climate change, or Trump himself.

Trump supporters would be happy to see the country burned to the ground, as long as it made Liberals upset.

^This. +10000. Bruhs, I know that everything going on with the Trump administration seems absolutely crazy and really, really bad for the ENTIRE country but it doesn't matter because at least half of the country would disagree with that assessment....and there in lies the problem. If any of you still trust polls, look at Trump's approval rating with GOP voters...it's still 80+%!!!! Until that changes and gets to around 50-60%, absolutely nothing will come of any of this noise.

Trump is saying that he will be very upset if Congress does not pass a new healthcare bill.

What the hell is he doing to help?

His job is to lead. His job is to communicate to the public what he wants the healthcare bill to be about. He is supposed to give speeches about it. He is supposed to tell us what is supposed to be in it.

He hasn't done jack but still thinks he has the right to get upset about it.

Bruhs, only GOP polls matter wrote:

Tri Guy Banana Hammock wrote:

Trump supporters are happiest when Liberals are complaining. It doesn't matter about what -- healthcare, climate change, or Trump himself.

Trump supporters would be happy to see the country burned to the ground, as long as it made Liberals upset.

^This. +10000. Bruhs, I know that everything going on with the Trump administration seems absolutely crazy and really, really bad for the ENTIRE country but it doesn't matter because at least half of the country would disagree with that assessment....and there in lies the problem. If any of you still trust polls, look at Trump's approval rating with GOP voters...it's still 80+%!!!! Until that changes and gets to around 50-60%, absolutely nothing will come of any of this noise.

I agree but why is that one of the main motivations of Trump supporters?

good post. Probably the best the nation can hope for is that the hardcore trumpers lose interest and don't vote and dont' post on FB and don't watch Fox. When people are backed into a corner and shown that they have the facts wrong, all they do is dig in their heels and fight back harder. They dont' change their minds. Although a counter argument to that is the fall in support for trump amond independents and the 'strongly support' people in the trump camp.