Is it unfair for a high school coach to cut students for being slow?

Moo Goo wrote:

It's a sports. You have to be somewhat good at it.

That is not fair. It is harder to join a sport than get a job

Just because life is unfair means we should keep life unfair?

Moo Goo wrote:

david45 wrote:

Because 5:30 is an unreasonable standard for a new high school freshman? Are you seriously turning people away from running with that ridiculous and stupid standard?

You're too slow. Find another sports.

Like what?

david45 wrote:

Moo Goo wrote:

You're too slow. Find another sports.

Like what?

Ping Pong against yourself.

Or hobbyjogging road races. They'll let you in those. I'm sure you'll find a way to miss the cut-off before they take down the finish line.

david45 wrote:

Moo Goo wrote:

You're too slow. Find another sports.

Like what?

If your school has obstinate grudging - you could take state.

PorkchopHasBeen wrote:

david45 wrote:

Like what?

If your school has obstinate grudging - you could take state.

Stop trolling

From the looks of it you already one of those people who find excuses instead of solutions because you already ignored the questions about training.

Describe your summer training.

How many weeks?

How many miles per week? Describe the progression.

What other summer responsibilities did you have?

How many time trials?

What kind of ancillary work did you do?

There are many runners on this board who juggle jobs, family, and running. They still manage to knock out 40-100 mpw. The successful runners don't complain about meeting standards to get into races. They find a way to meet the standard or realize the race wasn't meant for them.

Society has an obesity problem. If there are high schools kids that want to run, I'd do what I could to promote health that lifestyle.

If my district had the resources, I'd bring two bus loads of kids to meets without entry cutoffs. If the district didn't have the resources, I'd field a traveling and non-traveling team. The traveling team earns varsity letters, and the non-traveling team doesn't.

i dare you to start another thread

Most of the slow kids don't want to run. Their parents make them do a sport and they are a drag on the team. They don't care and they don't run.

coach of fasty wrote:

Most of the slow kids don't want to run. Their parents make them do a sport and they are a drag on the team. They don't care and they don't run.

So you are going to anger their parents by not letting them join? How would you know if those kids will like running later on?

I think it is within the coach’s power to cut people, however I question the intelligence of it. When I joined my team, I had no idea how to train and wasn’t very good. I had time trialed a 25:xx in the summer and had maybe a 22:xx PR from a random 5k. I am lucky I go to a no cut school, as even on 15-25 miles throughout the season I got into the mid 18s by the end of my first season. By no means fast, but for our very small school it was good for top half of varsity. As other posters said, I think a coach giving a rookie season to everyone is best. After one season if they can’t hit a time standard and there are logistical issues with carrying large amounts of slow runners, I understand cuts more. But to judge and cut people based on their starting points is a bit boneheaded because some just need a few months to adjust to training and can end up helping the team if given a season to figure things out.

So what is this argument even about anymore? You were cut from the team and are graduating this year. So what? Does it even matter anymore? Stop crying over spilled milk .

No. The high achieving parents are very familiar with benchmarks and metrics. That is how they got into good colleges and moved up in life. They understand the price of a nicer house and nicer car. They don't expect somebody to give them the better car just because they want it and their neighbor has one.

JustShutUpAlready wrote:

So what is this argument even about anymore? You were cut from the team and are graduating this year. So what? Does it even matter anymore? Stop crying over spilled milk .

I am upset I will never get to experience what fun I am missing

Why don't you take up running over the summer and aim to run at university? Life doesn't come to a complete halt once you leave high school, there are opportunities afterwards.

david45 wrote:

JustShutUpAlready wrote:

So what is this argument even about anymore? You were cut from the team and are graduating this year. So what? Does it even matter anymore? Stop crying over spilled milk .

I am upset I will never get to experience what fun I am missing

That sounds like incelspeak.

track chick wrote:

Why don't you take up running over the summer and aim to run at university? Life doesn't come to a complete halt once you leave high school, there are opportunities afterwards.

Because I can't run in university?

physics defiant wrote:

david45 wrote:

I am upset I will never get to experience what fun I am missing

That sounds like incelspeak.

How is it incelspeak? It is a legitimate concern