Lagat winning the US Olympic Trails 5k in 2016 and making his 5th Olympic team at the age of 59
Lagat winning the US Olympic Trails 5k in 2016 and making his 5th Olympic team at the age of 59
The recency bias seems strong - although perhaps the later part of the decade was truly better than the earlier part. There seems to be a disproportionate number of nominations for 2017 through 2019.
I nominate World XC 2017 - Kamworor comes back win his second straight title after Cheptegei makes a huge move and pays the price (but hangs on enough so that Uganda still takes team bronze)
zxcvzvxc wrote:
The 2010s started January 1, 2011 and end December 31, 2020. That is just a feature of our counting system, which begins with 1 and ends at 10, not 0-9.
Thus the reason everyone celebrated the new millennium 20 years ago a year early.
102 men's races to 36 women's. 15 women's races in the right hand column which means the final bracket has 43 men's races and 21 women's, unless you're doing a field of 68 with some play in games.
I dunno what the right ratio is, but maybe not this.
zxcvzvxc wrote:
The 2010s started January 1, 2011 and end December 31, 2020. That is just a feature of our counting system, which begins with 1 and ends at 10, not 0-9.
Thanks for sharing. I'll cancel it or at least post-pone it until 2021.
Not.
By that logic, the best race of the 1900s could actually have happened in 2000. That's crazy, right?
ATL202020202020 wrote:
102 men's races to 36 women's. 15 women's races in the right hand column which means the final bracket has 43 men's races and 21 women's, unless you're doing a field of 68 with some play in games.
I dunno what the right ratio is, but maybe not this.
Yes, we should be on the lookout for bias and I see what you are saying but the depth in men's running is greater so the races are more competitive more often.
2016 DL London, W 100M hurdles--12.20! amazing return from heartbreak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ995weE9kU
Best drama in track and field comes from W 400M races, in my opinion. Video from my previous contribution (2013 WC):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzVhjEKxlL0
2016 Olympics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOK7DvZzo9g
2012 IAAF World Indoor Championships, W 4x400m--amazing leg by Ohuruogu, Perry holds off Richards Ross (USA favourite)
rojo wrote:
ATL202020202020 wrote:
102 men's races to 36 women's. 15 women's races in the right hand column which means the final bracket has 43 men's races and 21 women's, unless you're doing a field of 68 with some play in games.
I dunno what the right ratio is, but maybe not this.
Yes, we should be on the lookout for bias and I see what you are saying but the depth in men's running is greater so the races are more competitive more often.
Do best marathon / half marathon / 10000 / 5000 / 3kSC / mile / 1500 / 800. That's actually how I understood it.
There is no year zero, 1 BCE gives way to 1 CE, so technically you are a year early though, but it doesn't matter. And yes, 2000 was the last year of the 20th century. See how that works? 1900 was last year of the 19th century, 1800 was last year of 18th century ...
rojo wrote:
ATL202020202020 wrote:
102 men's races to 36 women's. 15 women's races in the right hand column which means the final bracket has 43 men's races and 21 women's, unless you're doing a field of 68 with some play in games.
I dunno what the right ratio is, but maybe not this.
Yes, we should be on the lookout for bias and I see what you are saying but the depth in men's running is greater so the races are more competitive more often.
Good to see you doubling down on this, progress!
rojo wrote:
zxcvzvxc wrote:
The 2010s started January 1, 2011 and end December 31, 2020. That is just a feature of our counting system, which begins with 1 and ends at 10, not 0-9.
Thanks for sharing. I'll cancel it or at least post-pone it until 2021.
Not.
By that logic, the best race of the 1900s could actually have happened in 2000. That's crazy, right?
This is wrong. 2020-2029 is the ‘20s.
Nobody ever says, “actually the ‘80s started in 81 and ended in 1990.” And the people who do are tools.
And the best race is Geb, Bekele, Farah
Centro’s Olympic win
Kipchoge’s Sub 2
2016 Local Turkey Trot 5K
Leah O Connors indoor NCAA Mile win was a very cool race. Jenny Simpson 2011 Worlds Win...
ATL202020202020 wrote:
102 men's races to 36 women's. 15 women's races in the right hand column which means the final bracket has 43 men's races and 21 women's, unless you're doing a field of 68 with some play in games.
I dunno what the right ratio is, but maybe not this.
I'm actually surprised they came up with so many women's races. When I think of my personal favorite races it's more like a 10-to-1 ratio.
Decadence wrote:
This is wrong. 2020-2029 is the ‘20s.
The '20s start in 2030.
I don't understand what the list is all about. The criteria need to be spelled out.
Is the list supposed to be US-centric? If not, why is Emma Coburn's slowish W Champs win included while Beatrice Chepkoech's jaw-dropping Steeplechase WR didn't make the cut? Why is Matt Centrowitz's Olympic gold medal jog included whereas countless Olympic gold medals won by Africans are excluded?
Is the list supposed to value dramatic races like, say, the Footlocker girls XC in 2018 or, rather, extremely good performances such as the Chepkoech WR. If it's the former, some hobbyjogger's narrow Turkey Trot 5K win could beat out Yuki's Boston Marathon upset victory.
Is the list supposed to stress distance running more than sprinting? Because very few sprint races are included.
ATL202020202020 wrote:
rojo wrote:
Yes, we should be on the lookout for bias and I see what you are saying but the depth in men's running is greater so the races are more competitive more often.
Good to see you doubling down on this, progress!
There are more men's races than women's races included as candidate races, but it's not 102 to 36. By my count, it's 65 men's races to 37 women's.
did wrote:
The recency bias seems strong - although perhaps the later part of the decade was truly better than the earlier part. There seems to be a disproportionate number of nominations for 2017 through 2019.
I nominate World XC 2017 - Kamworor comes back win his second straight title after Cheptegei makes a huge move and pays the price (but hangs on enough so that Uganda still takes team bronze)
I was a little worried about this, which is one of the reasons we started this thread, to see if others remembered some great races from earlier in the decade that we may have overlooked. I've seen a lot of good suggestions so far, so I imagine we'll be making some changes from our provisional list of 64.
Bonkers wrote:
I think Penn Relays Jordy Williamsz vs Cheserek should be in the 64, just for pure WTF-ness. Never seen a race play out quite like that before.
Was going to say the same thing.
Also, 2013 Great North Run should bump up
As much as we hate Gatlin how is his 2017 100m victory over Bolt not there. That race was huge.
What about Kipchoge winning Chicago with his insoles coming out of his shoes.
Some on the consideration list that should be finalists for sure.
Bekele V Farah V Geb at Great North Run
Jeilan upsets Farah 2011 WC 10,000
This is my favorite race of the decade:
2016 World Half- Kamworor slips at the start, opens with a 4 minute mile to catch the group, runs through a hurricane, and closes in low 59. Agree with the above that it's his signature race. Beats the likes of Farah and Karoki in a pure grinder's distance race.
I disagree with the inclusion of 2017 WC 5k-- the 2017 WC 10k was a more 'iconic' race, as it were. It's a real show of spirit as opposed to the 'surprise' of beating a tired Farah in the 5k: Kamworor and Cheptegei grinding out laps with the knowledge of how to beat Farah and the best honest chance of doing so in Farah's career. A real buzz, atmosphere, anticipation. It summarizes the mid 2010s with Farah's best race. Also, if looking for the new crop post-2017: I'd say 2018 Brussels 5k was deeper, faster, and more open than the 2017 5k-- a better race.
And I'll be the one to say it: INEOS 159. It has to be included. This list is created and being argued over not because of race distance, surface, or location; I'll argue that people care about these races because they're a show of grit, competition, utter surprise, endeavor, whatever people find *in* the running-- Kipchoge's performance is arguably one of the purist on the list in terms of the spirit of running.
Robby Andrews winning the ncaa 800 in 2011 was a fantastic race