Amy Yoder-Begley tells NY Times Alberto Salazar asked her to sign a contract saying she would not befriend her NOP teammates

C0l0rado wrote:

Fun to see all the modestly accomplished runners here scolding the champion runners from NOP about being too soft. Snowflake, pansy ... yada-yada. Salazar failed his athletes, it's a simple as that.

What are you talking about? Who has scolded the champion runners from NOP?

No one has said anything about Hasay, Rowbury, Hassan, Rupp, Centrowitz, Brazier, Murphy, Klosterhalfen, Kejelcha, Osako, etc.

- Oh "the mouth!" Move out of your parents basement!

- I'll double-down, Coach Sal simply wanted a professional atmosphere at work. So let's not show-up to work (practice) w/

#1 Your ass hanging out of your spandex ... at least learn how to where it when you show up for work!

#2 Laughing like a chucklehead or lamenting the loss of a stupid dog during warm-ups, intervals, warm-downs when you ought to be mentally rehearsing your upcoming race. Be mature!

#3 Becoming "friends" w/co-workers that your are competing against .... NOP was never meant to be a "team sport" -- it's not like they ever competed as one during XC or any of the summer series. Be healthy ... "Find a Friend" outside of work that you can actually enjoy a social life versus scheming how to kick their ass!

#4 Appreciate the feedback. Whether it's positive or neutral when you are getting any attention at all in Coach Sal's stable then you ought to feel good. When you become ignored is when you should be concerened ... not good!

#5 Embrace Reality: Amy "You Ignorant Coach!" YOU ARE KIDDING ME! You acknowledge that you PR'ed or had your most success on or about at 115 lbs, but you condem Coach Sal for expecting you to hit such targets when you are on FREAKING CONTRACT?

Grow up or maybe Get another Dog!

All Coach Sal was trying to do was teach her to be a professional

Alberto Salazar supporting P Diddy after P Diddy Charged with felony assault in 2015.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/alberto-salazar-sean-p-diddy-combs-and-trainers-picture-id99991618

If her laughter was so annoying why would she need a contract against making friends? Sounds like they didn't like her.

But regarding the Oregon project and the shut down - I'm thinking Nike just shut it down hoping all this would get buried. I bet they didn't think all this crap would come out.

> real job

Lol licking your mama's puss doesn't count as a job so get out of the basement.

Real jobs require interacting with other humans. It's a social world learn manners and make everything better. Being a robot will let you get replaced by a real robot who is better than you.

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Hateraid wrote:

Where are the Alberto lovers now? How you going to spin this one?

More detractor than defender- ASal's guilty of plenty. But she wasn't forced to sign, & could've negotiated- WELCOME TO THE WORLD. And runners need to quit being snowflakes. You think NFL'ers or boxers aren't screamed at?

- +1, less Coach Sal's guilt.

- If anybody's to blame w/Mary Cain's issues it's her parents thus their GUILT w/this NYT "Hit Job" piece. I mean "really" ....

#1 You DID NOT accompany your daughter to Portland directly after HS? No problem, my 18-year old kid who still brings stuffed animals to workouts/races is more than "game" enough to "go it alone" with p/t college at Portland State & F/T professional w/NOP across the country in a world WAY different than the NYC metro area?

#2 Birth Control Pills. So the issue was that your daughter was taking BCP's to lose weight versus being sexually active? Mr. Cain, are you really a MD?

#3 FAILED to get involved w/her medical maladies or nutritional pathway while w/NOP? Mr. Cain, are you really a MD? I mean your daughter's training her ass off, but simultaneously gaining weight .... why was Coach Sal more interested than you?

#4 ALLOWED your daughter to attempt to rejoing NOP after all these ALLEGED Coach Sal abuses?

#5 CULPABLE in teaching your daughter CHARACTER ASSASSINATION w/this "hit job" on Coach Sal

Okie Doke...y'all need to chill out and stop taking this discussion personally. Let's stay on topic and leave the personal attacks out of it. This is a mindless discussion about Nike Oregon Project woes...no need to go off the rails and go after one another.

We still love you,

LRC

Flying Carpet Salesman wrote:

Alberto Salazar supporting P Diddy after P Diddy Charged with felony assault in 2015.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/alberto-salazar-sean-p-diddy-combs-and-trainers-picture-id99991618

Bloody hell, what had Al been rubbing in to those quads.

This defense of Alberto's behavior is tiresome. I'm getting old and have been around this sport a LONG time, including a decade with a coach whose athletes won Olympic and WC medals. Never once did I see him treat an athlete with disrespect, male or female. I realize there are numerous a**hole coaches in our sport at the HS, college, and pro level, but there are hundreds that are nurturing AND highly successful. Alberto was the latter in spades, but quite obviously lacking in the former (Rupp apparently the exception).

Rupp Fan Boy wrote:

For all the detractors there are many more they liked him.

Start naming them. Other than Rupp and Nike HQ, I haven't really heard anyone step up in support of Alberto.

Tell that to the dozens of athletes who adore Alberto. You will always have detractors and upset athletes liking to blame someone. You have found his in these 3 women. But he’s coached over 50 athletes in his career.

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- W/you & great observation on "... only after the ships have sailed."

- NOP & Coach Sal's contracts are PROFESSIONAL based upon their judgment on what it takes for an athlete to ecme successful. If indeed Amy was given this caveat in the contract then as a PROFESSIONAL she should have known that she was simply a "training prop" versus someone to be nurtured alongside the prime athletes. Not much different than a pacer, a college walk-on, etc. They get into the "show," but have to earn their spurs before the coaches focus on their development. What BS by these ex-NOPsters ... UNPROFESSIONAL! Typical of folks that have never worked a "real job" .... & NO -- coaching the BS Atlanta TC or Grand Valley State, repping Oiselle, leaving w/your parents & doing whatever as a 23-year old w/a Fordham education, doesn't count!

- Yep .... Doot Doot's got it: " Apparently everyone in this sport is a fvcking toddler and narc... but only after their ships have sailed."[/quote]

I guess its tough to be intelligent with a split lickety

This....

John Clendon wrote:

Copy of the contract? I can make up stories too....

Agree. It’s time for women in sports to grow a pair.

Oh wait, Connecticut is taking care of that!

Rightttttt wrote:

Tell that to the dozens of athletes who adore Alberto. You will always have detractors and upset athletes liking to blame someone. You have found his in these 3 women. But he’s coached over 50 athletes in his career.

Other than Rupp, start naming them. I haven't heard a lot of support from his former athletes recently.

This defense of Alberto's behavior is tiresome. I'm getting old and have been around this sport a LONG time, including a decade with a coach whose athletes won Olympic and WC medals. Never once did I see him treat an athlete with disrespect, male or female. I realize there are numerous a**hole coaches in our sport at the HS, college, and pro level, but there are hundreds that are nurturing AND highly successful. Alberto was the latter in spades, but quite obviously lacking in the former (Rupp apparently the exception).

So, here is the thing. Salazar denied some of the charges made by Mary Cain. He has not done that here. Period. Yoder-Begley is telling the truth.

She must have been really annoying! Good job Alberto!

Clickety Split, you sound as uneducated about women's bodies as Al Sal. Hopefully you aren't coaching females or have any influence over female athletes. If you do, then read a book or two or just do simple Google searches about what BC is used for other than birth control and about abuse and how victims go back to their abusers. Maybe also think about the fact Mary was 18 when this happened and now at age 23 her parents have less control. Did you even read Mary's story? You have several inaccuracies in your post. And your all caps for emphasis make your post even more stupid.

How could such a contact be legal? And what lawyer would write up such a contract?