I’ve gone from big Kipchoge fan to disliking him

EssosLandi wrote:

Warrington wrote:

This comment epitomizes the modern human being in the West. As he sits in front of his computer, he is seldom impressed, always envious, agitated and anxious for being inadequate. He then projects his misery as doubt, condemnation, skepticism or apathy.

You epitomize what is wrong with the human being in the West. Swallowing glorified exhibitions like if it was real sport, taking short cuts instead of doing it the right way.

You are eating what Nike and Ineos are asking you to eat. You can't think by yourself. You are a sheep.

all of the pro athletes, olympic medalists, and world champions involved and spectating, who actually know what it takes to be great, were impressed. the armchair-quaterbacking basement dwelling letsrun crowd who have never accomplished anything are not impressed... enough said.

Say whatever you want about him, he is still the best marathoner in the world with only one serious contender (Bekele).

Feel bad for you suckers who watched a 2 hour Nike infomercial ???

This!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZdOdriRdk

MikeMach1977 wrote:

Why should we be impressed?

Go to the roads today and for as long as you can hold this pace. Then realize the pace that just humbled your body/mind/spirit into saying "if you go at this pace you will die!" was just run by a human being on this planet for a marathon and he was jumping around after it. If that doesn't humble you at all, then maybe you just have some really deep seeded issues. There are things all around you that people spent enormous amounts of time creating and perfecting. Because you didn't have to do anything to help create it, but still get to use it (computer, phone, electrical in your house, etc), you don't appreciate that time spent. That is what makes your life what it is. Sport is a part of this human competitive spirit/drive. What Kipchoge just did was a piece perfection as we currently know it. It will force people to reconsider what is possible, which in turn will drive people in not just sport but whatever human endeavor they participate in (math, computer science, film, etc). Our lives will become a little more magical because of it. Society always stands on the shoulders of giants who are pushing the bounds of reality forward.[/quote]

Perfectly said!

No matter what shoes anyone on this thread wear the farthest they could run would be a kilometre.

Inspiring for sure.

I agree with you.I was fooled into thinking Kipchoge was a humble man but am now realising he is an attention seeking whore.Bekele is much more humble and I won't be happy until he takes the marathon record away from Kipchoge.The general public are bowing down to Kipchoge on social media thinking he is the only man on earth capable of this.Bekele could also have done this but wouldn't be bothered with a cheap charade

Perfectly said!

No matter what shoes anyone on this thread wear the farthest they could run would be a kilometre.

Inspiring for sure.[/quote]

Not entirely true.

showoff wrote:

I agree with you.I was fooled into thinking Kipchoge was a humble man but am now realising he is an attention seeking whore.Bekele is much more humble and I won't be happy until he takes the marathon record away from Kipchoge.The general public are bowing down to Kipchoge on social media thinking he is the only man on earth capable of this.Bekele could also have done this but wouldn't be bothered with a cheap charade

Kipchoge had all the bona fides to allow him to attempt the cheap charade. When bekele wins his next 5 marathons and has no apparent competition he can attempt his own.

You may be getting too caught up in it. Just focus on the time, the distance and the pace. Keep it simple.

Bekele would only ever want to break a real world record and not create a fake one.Bona fides my arse.What bonafides had Tadese and Desist when they attempted the cheap stunt in Monza

The shoes is a joke he ran barefoot for years and years yet people will believe it was because of the shoes and I bet they couldn’t run 400m barefoot without their feet and legs hurting. I bet most people here have never even tried to run barefoot.

About the event I think it’s incredible what he did to run that fast for that long but I agree it just wasn’t as exciting as when he ran WR in a race. It’s like watching Usain Bolt run with pacers or Bekele 12:37 with pacers the best part was when he ran the last K on his own

Fjdk wrote:

but I agree it just wasn’t as exciting as when he ran WR in a race.

i don't think anyone disagrees with this.

Highly doubtful Bekele would have been able achieve a sub 2 even with all these conditions. He would probably fallen off around the 1 hour mark like Tadese and Lelisa.

NativeSon wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Wachana na hawa washenzi, NativeSon. They're perpetual complainers.

Kweli kabisa.

The buffoonery in this site is breathtaking.

We can dig wells and have clean water though.

Things have changed since 2017. Kipchoge himself lowered the real world record to 2:01:39. Even before Bekele, I questioned his decision to do another publicity stunt when it’s pretty clear that he has more in him. It’s a waste of talent. I don’t know if I dislike him or just feel sorry for him that his managers or whatever talked him into it. He keeps saying it’s not for the money but really that’s the only valid reason I see for him to be doing it. For humanity? Maybe he means to draw attention to our sport? Because the people who follow the sport closely already know what he is capable of under legal conditions. It’s just as impressive if not more impressive to run 2:01 at Berlin than to run 1:59 with assistance.

The way I see it, running sub-2 was a goal he had and made it a priority in his life to achieve. He knows it doesn’t count as an IAAF sanctioned record, but it does count in the history books as the first man to ever cover the 42.2 in less than 2 hours. We all know the 1:59:50 will have a HUGE asterisk due to the circumstances within it: an army of pacers drafting, a car also drafting and paving, enhanced shoes, etc.

This was an EXPERIMENT on the possibility of running under 2 hours, no more no less, and Kipchoge proved it.

Back to our lives citizens!

To Kipchoge point of view, it was not for money, it was for fame.

He wanted to be the first, absolutely, he was taking a huge risk by not doing it, someone else could do it, someone could even do it in a real race.

His will to become the first and to hunt that glory make him forget the sport completely. He took a big shortcut just because he was essentially selfish and lacked any dignity in doing so.

The rules set forth by IAAF for world records are arbitrary. If the goal is to go as fast as humanly possible, then Kipchoge has accomplished that goal. Rotating pacers should be no big deal. The shoes are not giving free energy, furthermore, there is no way to say one way or another how much of a help they were. Two seconds or two minutes, there is no way to know what "natural" ability a human has at any given moment.

I do know the guy ran 204 flat with his insoles flapping around for an entire marathon like 3 years ago (pre-Vapor Fly too).

So Gatlin is the record holder with 9.45 !