HRE wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Fans want the appearance of fair play and clean sports while also wanting highlight real plays and records.
Alan
Bingo !!!!!!
0/10 ? Stupid
HRE wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Fans want the appearance of fair play and clean sports while also wanting highlight real plays and records.
Alan
Bingo !!!!!!
0/10 ? Stupid
HRE wrote:
Why do you only ask about a daughter? Do you have a daughter who is being trashed for being a doper?
Responsible parents take extra care in looking after their daughters, who are much more vulnerable than teenage boys.
None of my family use any drugs, not for anything.
No, I have sons. If they're being trashed for doing something trashable I'd likely be trashing them as well. If they were being unjustly trashed of course I wouldn't like it.
That is quite sad.
Probably a lot of that problem, however, comes from your attitude that drugs are so awesome.
But you know what I'd like a whole lot less? Having them forced to choose between taking drugs that have potential harmful consequences for their health, that could get them suspended from competition if caught, or giving competitors a significant and illegal advantage over them. if they refuse to use those drugs as well.
Good grief.
If you weren't so wrapped up in the drugs, then you wouldn't be bothering with such nonsense.
Okay. We're done. I don't think drugs are awesome and just saying I do doesn't make it so. I actually think many of them are pretty vile . I don't know what problem you think there is because you think I think that. And having to decide to cheat at something or be beaten by someone else who is is not nonsense. At least you're good at coming up with an appropriate name to post under.
Just going through quickly the thread, it appears that three different and only vaguely related questions are conflated:
1) Whether doping is "natural" in the context of elite sports and just implicitly a part of the human endeavour to improve performance and therefore should be allowed.
2) Whether the current anti-doping regulations are so ineffective and asymmetric that allowing some or all PEDs or taking a different approach to the doping problem would be - if not the best world at least only "the second worst option".
3) How the ones caught by the ineffective system should be treated, whether they should be seen as cheaters and possible be lynched as a warning to the other dopers. Or whether they are also victims of the ineffective system and one should look their decision as a result of bad incentives through the lense of game theory etc. Technically speaking American skier Kerry Lynch (1987) was the only blood doper sanctioned until the late 1990s and antidoping-activist "Mr. Clean" Christopher Bassons had also a doping violation after missing a test when he abandoned a race in 2012 (later overturned).