Salazar Speaks Out -- good read

"Regardless of your opinion on this situation, two things are clear:

1. Martin Smith has taken the high road the entire time. He would not comment on anything regarding UO and the coaching situation- he was focused on his athletes and making sure the team was functioning until he resigned. He was not going to try and get into any sort of media war with UO, Alberto Salazar, Nike, or whoever.

2. Alberto Salazar has, for the better part of 6 months now, voiced his opinion every time he gets in local Oregon papers about the whole UO situation. Why is he so obsessed with addressing every issue that comes up with the UO track program? Whether or not you agree wtih him, he has not handled this situation with the maturity and poise of Martin Smith. In fact, hes acted like a 13 year old kid the entire time."

Hardly objective...

If you get kicked out of town you keep your tail between your legs unless you want to lose your $450,000 grand or spoil your shot at getting another job. Smith is more clever than tactful.

Yeah, but wrote:

'"My plan for Galen" and "I called Galen's parents" and "We will run in Europe this summer". Uuuuu, I thought Galen was running in Europe this summer?'

The former Oregon coach used to say "we" all the time when speaking to his runners. A coach and an athlete are a team, a partnership, is that a hard concept to understand?

Have you ever had a coach? My guess is you're coach didn't care too much about your performance, and that you've never performed nearly outstanding as Rupp has, even relative to your own talent (or lack thereof) level.

Get a life. These guys are rocking and rolling, you are whining and bitching. If I was to choose, I'd be them.

Thanks for pointing the finger at me, but I'm not the one this thread is about. It's about the legendary Alberto and his statements to the media over the past year. There's a big difference in speaking to your athletes in private or making reference to the entire team vs. using the media to blurt out self serving statements. Great coaches let their athletes speak for themselves, they do not seek out opportunities to use the media to promote themselves unless they are angling for something else. Alberto is using Rupp and his own historic performances to gain the spotlight. OK, obviously he misses it and enjoys the attention. I believe Alberto is living in a dream state induced by too much prozac. That is a scary prospect if you are his athlete. But hay, "rock on dude".

BTW, I have not seen a quote TO THE MEDIA by McDonald of Arkansas, Fry of South Carolina, Clark of Tennessee, Groves of Penn State, or any of the other "respected" coaches of this country who refer to an INDIVIDUAL athlete using the term "WE".

Dig them up and post them here, and provide me with the link so I can read it myself.

Yes, I have to agree, using statements like "our plan is blah, blah, blah" or "Our intention is to" shows a joint approach and is a lot different than "We will race in Europe this summer". That statement shows selfishness to no end and I have never met a great coach that shows that sort of need. He wants to be sure everyone knows he is still calling the shots in regards to Rupp. The young man (Rupp) is impressive and I enjoy watching him, I just have a real bad feeling about Alberto's intentions.

in the knew wrote:

Then there's this quote: "The Rupp's pay me a monthly fee which is verified by contract and they keep the cancelled checks. It's a very unique situation where you have an extraordinary athlete who wants his high school coach to continue to work with him while he is in college."

Wow, that's a self serving statement. So the Rupp's pay Salazar by check, Salazar cashes the check and hands them an envelope with cash. On paper he's getting paid by them, but in reality he is merely cashing the check for apprearances. Rediculous, this man is sad and too stupid to not get caught.

Where does it say he hands them an envelope with cash or that he's mearly cashing the checks for appearance? That's not in the article.

I hope the IRS reads Salazar's interview and then looks to see if he is reporting the income (Rupp's parent's money) on his tax returns. If he isn't, or if he is playing a shell game with it, I hope the IRS reports it to the NCAA.

I'm sure the IRS is hot on the trail to determine if a $200 per month coaching salary is being reported on an individual's tax return. I hear they scan all kinds of obscure, mom & pop, college sports fan newsletters to find the really big money that isn't being reported.

hayward...the fact is, NCAA and U of O compliance officials do... so here's the sticky wicket: the past is the past and tends to repeat itself.

The 80's: Dellinger let Cruz be coached...as the program slipped into mediocrity...

The 90's: Smith let Davis be coached...as the program was criticized by the old guard...

The New Millenium: Tyson let Logsdon be coached...as the program tried to survive through turmoil...

The future great hope: Should the new sheriff allow Rupp to be coached?

Insanity is defined as doing the same things over and over again while expecting different results. My wish is that someone steps up and asks The Rookie to cease and desist with his dysfunctional relationship with the university...yours?

My hope is Oregon hires Vin. Based on your comments on eDuck that is going to happen. I think he'll improve the quality of home meets, be an excellent leader for the program, and have a positive influence on recruiting. If he thinks having Salazar coach Rupp while he is leading the program is acceptable, than it is ok with me.

SpinneyLives wrote:

hayward...the fact is, NCAA and U of O compliance officials do... so here's the sticky wicket: the past is the past and tends to repeat itself.

The 80's: Dellinger let Cruz be coached...as the program slipped into mediocrity...

The 90's: Smith let Davis be coached...as the program was criticized by the old guard...

The New Millenium: Tyson let Logsdon be coached...as the program tried to survive through turmoil...

The future great hope: Should the new sheriff allow Rupp to be coached?

Insanity is defined as doing the same things over and over again while expecting different results. My wish is that someone steps up and asks The Rookie to cease and desist with his dysfunctional relationship with the university...yours?

spinney:

I have got to say after having read many of the posts pertaining to oregon and alberto salzar over the last few months i am astounded at the shear number of repeated posts by you on the subject every time and anytime you have the oppertunity. Your negativtiy is unbelevable!!! Did you get cut from the team and have bad feelings towards those associated with the team. What i really want to say is to just go FUCK yourself. Its unbeleavable how close minded and mean hearted you are! Just get over oregon! I can tell you that everyone invovled is not some sort of troll trying to stew up trouble, but is generally trying to do somthing good for the sport even if they dont always go about it in the right ways. All anyone wants to do is have oregon great again and if you knew anything you would know that Matin and Oregon both knew it was best for him to leave for their visions of team were two totally differnt things! Look man all im saying is lay off oregon nobody wants you negativity all the time!

"...I have become increasingly concerned about the controversy and related publicity regarding the track program. To protect my athletes from this distraction, I conclude that it is best that I resign my position." -Smith 3/18/05

Agreement or resignation?

eugenerunner, I'll not stoop to your level of personal attack. What happened in March in Eugene wasn't just another turn or bump or sign on the road along the way. Close minded and mean hearted? Hardly. I do enjoy baiting poeple, which is a fault that I appreciate you calling me on.

If you care to converse, you know how to reach me via e-mail. Otherwise in this medium, silence works best. For it's better to keep silent and have people wondering if you are a fool or a sage then to speak and remove all doubt. I sir, am admittedly a fool. You sir, are both a vulgar and insulting Eugene runner.

-Spinney

you boys need to go out and do a nice easy 10 miler and calm down. That's what I'm up to today wearing a t shirt that says

"It's a duck thing, you wouldn't understand" which pretty much sums up this debate.

Salazar is looking to make himself look good again. He seems to care alot................................................................about himself.

All too often we kill the messenger and not the message. The players and not the play. The person and not the act. Ultimately whether it's Smith, Tyson, Vin, Alberto or anyone, what is most important is the respect and honor for the kids and not just the performances. It is the respect and honor of the community who support these kids and the program. The person charged with this program hopefully will embrace these ideals, for only then will magic happen.

Doesn't "Eugene masters scene" get it. If he ever comes out of his old-age stupor, he should become aware of the fact that this thread is about Alberto and his obvious failure to recognize that its about the kids and not about Alberto.

Common, obviously you get it. Unfortunately too many of the Eugene old boys still do not get it-and likely never will. There are important issues at stake here. Issues like ethics and honesty. I'd take Smith's tirades over the dishonesty of these guys any day. I hope the old boys enjoy their dual meets and their distance dominated program, but I for one will not forget Smith's accomplishment of so many academic all americans and TEAM of astounding athletes and coaches.

The ole boys of Eugene want to believe Pre has be re-incarnated in Rupp and that's all they live for. The young man is impressive and it's a shame he has been caught up in this mess brought on by the lame ducks, as they have been called. This is my first post on the matter, but I have read enough to know that Martin Smith was done wrong by more than just Alberto. Alberto on the other hand has done more to destroy Oregon Track & Field than anyone in the history of the program and he just keeps going and going and going. Whoever is the future coach will have a tough job trying to win with all the attached baggage of having mostly distance runners and few track & field athletes. Who wants to go to a run down logging town? Oh I bet they line up in droves for that. Right! Oh that's right, it's a Duck thing and I don't understand. That's a great argument. Right!

The relationship that these two have is on the border of extremely creepy...if I was Rupp's mother I would not let him anywhere near my son!! Petafile!

Common-

Yes, 68's, yes a helluva talent. 8:10 for 3000 in high school, in Oregon. Not some Arcadia, not some High School Nationals, he did it in the way that he crushed Dobson back then.

So, yes, he was undertrained, yes Martin had a lot of All Americans. But for all the top recruits he got ( a helluva lot) why don't you tell me how many got.......say.....even top 15 at NCAA cross, or top 5 in an NCAA track distance race. Now granted there are a few, but if you luck at the number of top national recruits, and measure it against these numbers and a Stanford or Arkansas program, you'll be scratching your head just like you were last year when they qualified 0 people and 0 teams for NCAA cross.

You are so full of it, it is laughable. Start naming all these top national recruits that you say Martin Smith was able to bring into Oregon. Hartmann and Logsdon, yes...but who else? Alberto and the old boys managed to subterfuge the recruiting to the point where Martin could get only the second level where distance runners were involved. So...name all these top national recruits--a figment in your perverte imagination. The lies and deception are exceeded only by the exagerations and embellishments of you and the rest of the Smith bashers.